Re: Wisdom

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Oui, mes amis, mourez le petit mort.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:05 PM
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Iranian poker players are big fans of The Shawshank Redemption?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:16 PM
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I always liked the line from the old Turk that Zorba quoted.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:17 PM
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Go then, my friends, and die.

You'd make a great general.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:19 PM
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Even the liberal New Republic knows that we're all going to die some day.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:21 PM
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These kinds of sayings always make me wonder what exactly is supposed to be so bad about not really living. It's like people talking about how important it is to leave your comfort zone. My comfort zone is really great! That's why I call it my comfort zone!


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:22 PM
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Highway to the comfort zone. Gonna stay right here in the comfort zone.


Posted by: Opinionated Kenny Loggins | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:27 PM
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I just got back from my Venezuelan friens d place, where he fed us lots of red wine. He says that, in his country, when a young man turns fifteen they take their first trip to a brothel, and it it is the role of the Godfather to take them there.

Livin, man, L-I-V-I-N.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:41 PM
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It's not statutory rape if your client comes in with his uncle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 7:50 PM
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Men, I am not ordering you to attack. I am ordering you to die. In the time that it takes us to die, other forces and commanders can come and take our place.


Posted by: Opinionated Mustafa Kemal | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 8:26 PM
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The "us" might have been a bit much.


Posted by: Opinionated Ottoman Solider's Ghost | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 8:32 PM
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"Fuck the raincoats, we're going hiking kids!"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 10:28 PM
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(That was your story, right?)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 10:29 PM
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To know death, Ogged, you have to fuck life - in the gall bladder...


Posted by: OPINIONATED MEXICAN BARON FRANKENSTEIN | Link to this comment | 10- 3-15 11:42 PM
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Bene Gesserit witch!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 5:44 AM
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You're so beautiful but you gonna die some day!


Posted by: Opinionated Big Joe Turner | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 6:12 AM
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I'm no hippie but part of me is sorry that it's too damn late to bid on this stylish bit of rock fashion


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 10:58 AM
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You don't need to be a hippie to appreciate JB's jacket. He was only pretending to be one himself. Are you 5' 4" and skinny? Or it wouldn't fit.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 11:02 AM
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I've been skinny though that was a long time ago but it's been far longer since I've been 5'4".


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 11:22 AM
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In the memory of my beloved Afghan grandfather's not thinking about all the consequences of his actions for himself and his loved ones: Ogged-jan, your poker playing buddy can go fuck himself.


Posted by: Cosma Shalizi | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 6:26 PM
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We were long overdue for a Persian/Afghani falling out.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 7:37 PM
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"We" as in this comments thread, or the globe?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 9:25 PM
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Surely it can be both.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 10- 4-15 11:23 PM
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Dead thread? Isn't this a hopelessly unhelpful overreaction?

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10- 6-15 1:19 AM
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Much of modern political activism seems to revolve around getting incredibly angry at people for wearing the wrong shirt. I am not sure this is a helpful development. (Shirts have been a big part of politics before, of course, but they were generally symptoms rather than causes.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10- 6-15 1:46 AM
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Without giving undue comfort to the hardworking perpetuators of call-out culture, that's a stupid slogan to wear on a T-shirt in the U.S. in particular, and in the world in general, and I bet even if you restrict yourself to "things said by Emmeline Pankhurst" you can find something less basically idiotic AND less culturally-situationally offensive. Streep's punishment for this transgression is to play the sanctimonious, unsympathetic misogynist-fantasy crone version of Scarlett O'Hara white lady in an art film about the antebellum south. (The strikethrough text is the collective-punishment version.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 10- 6-15 11:40 PM
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So if I visit America I have to pretend that American slavery was the only instance of slavery that ever existed and that the form it took there was the only form it ever took? Thanks for the warning.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10- 7-15 12:29 AM
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When Meryl Streep is involved in a movie, it's the audience who's punished. I thought the twitter outrage I saw about this, as usual, had a real point, but still seemed overblown. It's pretty tone deaf to pick that for a shirt today but also stupid to be convinced that rebel always means Confederacy.

Critique of the phrase "slavery of sex" used by 19th century feminists to refer to women's position in society and part of the link between abolitionists and suffragettes is, like Wry Cooter, still available.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10- 7-15 12:38 AM
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No, the sentiment in a U.S. context just seems particularly obnoxious: everyone thinks it's better to be a rebel than a slave, right? There is just the sticky question of what kind of rebel. It comes off as self-aggrandizing hyperbole if you're a celebrity, no? That's the main thing I get from it, which leaves room for the unfortunate historical associations to crawl into the void of meaning.

I don't understand the objection in 27 at all, sorry. You're inferring some kind of global rule about discourse? Meryl Streep is like a visitor to the US because she was playing an Englishwoman? The historical scope of slavery and rebellion is something people here, especially people of color here, deny? But we should probably let it go as an unworthy argument -- which is something I perhaps say too often, but I have yet to be called out for doing so.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 10- 7-15 10:21 AM
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28: When Meryl Streep is involved in a movie, it's the audience who's punished.

Not a fan, ever, eh?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10- 7-15 10:37 AM
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