My guess is that the other concussions come from running into another player or the goal.
Well that was easy to answer.
For boys (68.8%) and girls (51.3%), contact with another player was the most common concussion mechanism. Heading was the most common soccer-specific activity, responsible for 30.6% of boys' concussions and 25.3% of girls' concussions. Contact with another player was the most common mechanism of injury in heading-related concussions among boys (78.1%) and girls (61.9%).
(clicking through to the original study)
There are three main sources of contention in kiddie soccer. First, some parents try to pack the teams so that their little one never losses (up til about 8 or 9 you can pretty well do this by date of birth and putting all the older kids on the same team). Second, at what age if any should girls and boys be on separate teams. Third, if they can teach the kids to head the ball now or if America is a land of assholery, lawyers, and everybody-gets-a-trophy unlike whatever European country that parent comes from that has real futbol.
Apparently, everybody now agrees that no matter if it is cloudy and 50 degrees, you can't have a kid go more than 15 minutes without drinking water.
5 is so true and so ridiculous. Also Hawaii's team has snacks at halftime. The poor dears must be on the brink of starvation. Maybe they'll all be grad students one day.
I thought small repeated traumas, not just concussions, were worrisome?
6: More than orange slices?
It seems to be a commonly held belief that parents must have snacks with them at all times; is it common where you are, too? I feel like I'm some sort of bad mom or rulebreaker for not packing treats every time we go to the park or mall.
You mean like not getting snacks?
It seems to be a commonly held belief that parents must have snacks with them at all times; is it common where you are, too? I feel like I'm some sort of bad mom or rulebreaker for not packing treats every time we go to the park or mall.
Definitely with little kids. Not so much with the elementary age kids.
Life was hard back in the before time, when apple sauce didn't come in bags.
I remember orange slices or other snacks as a post-game thing.
6: More than orange slices?
Orange slices at halftime, a mini-meal of prepackaged crap handed out after the game. Plus the other kids circle around like vultures and get snacks at each siblings' game. (On the other hand, we're out there for 3-4 hours so I'm not going to begrudge them a bunch of fruit chews and capri suns.)
Parents take turns bringing snacks for the whole team after each game in our league. The mom who just said "fuck it, I'm getting donuts" was my favorite, but usually they try to be a bit healthy.
The snack thing is my biggest 'get off my lawn' parenting peeve (I've been crabby about it before). Newt's rec league is a bunch of teenagers. They do not need to be fed as if they're going to faint if they go an hour between meals.
Even for small children, the norms of snack availability seem really over the top. Eat meals, goddamnit, and learn about delayed gratification inbetween times. And get the chance to enjoy something as a treat, rather than as part of the endless stream of fodder being rammed down your gullet like a foie-gras goose.
like a foie-gras goose
Sshh...that part's supposed to be secret. The parents might object if they knew the real plan.
They make a lot of caffeinated candy/snack foods these days. It might give your kid's team a boost if you bring that along.
Also it might result in people not bringing snacks as much later, or at least getting you exempted from it.
I remember getting orange slices at halftime, >20 years ago. Also orange slices after the game. If you wanted anything other than orange slices at any time, you had to get it yourself.
I remember getting orange slices after the game, but not at halftime.
Have I mentioned how tall Newt is these days? He just hit six foot. Anyone who remembers him being referred to as an adorable tiny child should now feel ancient, as I certainly do.
Soccer coaches keep on thinking the height and gibbon-like wingspan are going to mean he's a natural goalie. This is not the case.
19 is solid wisdom of the ages it is not possible for me to agree more.
[it is true I packed an extra box of eats for the kid this morning but that was because he has about 4 hours of dance from 530-945 tonight and I don't want him gnawing off limbs from hunger on the way home.]
With xelA, I usually have a snack and a drink with me if I'm out for more than a short time. The snacks are not always needed -- he's a greedy sod, but if he doesn't know I have them, I may not need to dispense them -- but if he gets thirsty, he totally crashes. Bad tempered, tired, whiny, hard to get moving, etc. Couple of sips of water, or diluted fruit juice, and he's back in business.
We keep forgetting to feed the baby and then being like "why on earth is Rascal so fussy?!"
(He's always starving. It's not that we're forgetting exactly, but that does happen a lot.)
I thought small repeated traumas, not just concussions, were worrisome?
In youth leagues circa 1960, neither food nor drink was available or thought advisable.
By high school in the late sixties, the "hydration" idea was gaining ground, led by gatorade. I had the impression it reversed previous practice, which avoided eating and drinking on the field even on hot days.
I've mentioned this before, but I felt a lot better during mid-length [up to 2 hours] kickboxing practice sessions, if I really tried not to drink much. The occasional small sip of water, but that was it. Followed by literally litres afterwards.
Traditional boxing preparation actually wanted the fighter to be "dry," maybe a bit thirsty. I used to hear elaborations that talked of faster reactions, better nerve transmission when not "waterlogged" but I don't think that was articulated very often.
But whatever the cause, they convinced you that you felt quicker when you were dry.
28: We totally did that with the Calabat when he was about a year and a half or so. Gee, why is he a complete bear at 4pm every day? Right, no more nursing at 3. Right, feed the baby!
I just remembered that we got cans of soda after each Little League game, starting from age 7. I don't recall food, but it was the soda we were excited about.
Actually, I'm 95% sure that you either A. went home (or out) to eat, or B. if you had to stay for a sibling's game, there was a concession stand.
Baseball players basically just stand still.
Round here, rather than parents bringing snacks to games, the home team runs a tea-bar, with the profits going toward the team running costs, and there's an unofficial tea-bar league paralleling the football one.
Everywhere provides tea and instant coffee, usually made with luke-warm water from thermos flasks and dispensed in polystyrene cups, or in posher places with hot water from an urn and in chipped china mugs donated over the years (it's fun to see how far back you can go with the commemorative china: the oldest I've drunk from so far dated from the 1981 royal wedding). Most sell sweets, crisps, and canned drinks, and a few more enterprising teams have a camping stove for making bacon rolls. The organization is sewn up by one or two of the alpha mothers, and is jealously guarded - mothers of new team members may be allowed to help serve tea or take money, but custody of the urn or stove only comes after several years' apprenticeship, and fathers know when they aren't wanted.
Hitsuji''s U12 team is the envy of other age groups in his club because the coach's wife's brother's partner is a professional baker and provides beautifully decorated home-made cakes for every home game. The kids, though, prefer playing away to a team 15 miles away that has a proper ground with a canteen, where they all get free sausages and chips after the game. (Which is hard on teams that include observant Muslim and Jewish kids, but that town is resolutely white working-class English and the people who run their football club don't give a shit.)
The local french owned bakery chain that was purchased by st*rbucks a couple of years ago and then sold off/shut down??? will apparently be reopening once more with the same french dude in charge so the Friday morning croissant sales at the school will resume and that was always nice. Also love how they give out croissants to all the parents who show up to cheer on the kids doing the kilometre solidarité. Especially the smokers.
Of course kids need more frequent meals and god knows 6'2" teenagers consume nearly unimaginable amounts of food but still with lb on the weird folk belief in all snacks all the time.
How many of the are allowed to smoke?
We always had oranges at halftime. No idea why oranges - I guess hydration and energy? Runners take on energy after an hour or so, so 45 minutes doesn't seem insane, although it's probably not strictly needed.
Yeah, (this is to ogged, at 7? somewhere way up there), my understanding -- basically from that Frontline -- is that it really really really isn't just concussions. Subconcussive injuries, over and over, wreck young brains.
Maybe my dad's biggest regret as a bike rider is not carrying enough food and water on long rides. In his sixties, he started making sure he had more food during the ride and found himself able to go for longer rides than he'd been able to when younger, where he'd run out of steam and struggle home.
"suckpouch" is a truly revolting word.
Would you rather have to carry a spoon for your apple sauce?
Its true, if you give the kids cigarettes, it staves off their hunger.
Always have snacks for the kids. Are you nuts? We've established that LB's kids are weirdly low maintenance when it comes to hunger and she doesn't understand the DANGER! that lurks in every moment for parents of meltdowny kids.
As for eating during exercise, I read a cycling coach somewhere say that some of his guys could eat a whole meal on the bike and others felt sick if they had even a bite, so I imagine this varies from person to person.
For very long runs, I like use either the electrolyte balanced energy chews or Annie's fruit chews. Whichever is in the house.
OT, but oh man this republican undercard debate is AMAZING.
I suppose that's one word for it.
Admittedly I have been drinking fairly heavily. But you have to admit it was amazing.
I've been drinking lightly and I'm not happy about it.
You are not happy about the debate or about your light drinking?
The latter. I'm not watching any debates. I decided who I was going to vote for back in 2013.
The word "debate " is pretty misleading. They barely even resemble an actual debate. They are wildly entertaining.
42: you didn't even click through on 30, did you.
He's unhappy because he went to the bar and asked for a light and they gave him a Bud Light instead of beer.
Also, somehow I just ate 20 servings of licorice. 300 grams of sugar! Damn.
I will never get used to how much the lead ins to these debates sound/look exactly like the beginnings of late episodes of Top Chef. It really does hammer home why so many people seem to think that politics has no consequences and is basically just a kind of spectator sport.
Wages are too high. We need more welders and less [sic] philosophers.
Kasich is doing great - this stuff about a moral duty to help out people will really help bring out the left wing republican primary oh wait never mind.
I did love him talking straight past the buzzer only to have a pissed off moderator say "Ok but do you have a specific answer to the question?" and he got to talk for another minute. Gamesmanship!
Just look at Fiorina's face and that feeling will be replaced by another one.
Are you sure that's not the combination of licorice and alcohol?
Fiorina did a really nifty dance there. If I'd been drinking faster earlier I would have forgot that she was supposed to be explaining the exact opposite of what she said she was explaining.
Now Rubio is trying to hijack Trump's "we lose everything because of regulations and also education!" lines. I'm legitimately curious to see how that will work for him.
He's also really going for the repeal-and-replace thing too.
The complete impotence of the budget is absolutely hilarious.
I mean, buzzer.
Drinks and republicans talking is apparently not a combination congenial to typing well.
The longer I watch these debates, the more depressed I get that there is any measurable slice of the population that is watching these debates and actually planning to vote for one of these people.
I'm mostly disappointed that the only "so... you seem to have told a lot of lies" question for Carson happened early enough in the debate that no one poked him about his answer to it. If they had he probably would have flailed around about it like he has at press conferences and we would have seen his poll numbers suffer as a result. As it is, I don't know if I saw much to affect the race too much as it is, though it always depends on what story the press decided to write ahead of time.
I watched the entirety of both debates, and I am here to tell you that God was kind to the ancient Egyptians, for they were plagued only by frogs and locusts, by diseases and rivers of blood. We, on the other hand, are plagued by foul monsters in human form, and a madness has stricken the people, so they regard the monsters as sages. Woe unto us.
They were also able to store lots of grain in those pyramids.
basically just a kind of spectator sport
Do they normally sing the national anthem at these things? That weirded me out, but I guess it's par for the course as GOP flag worship goes.
It also reminded me of that time somebody let Chris Christie go out in public wearing a baseball uniform.
Singing the anthem is new this year, I think, but they did it at the Dem debate too.
Ted Cruz should have to sing "Oh, Canada".
Hillary wanted "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow", and Bernie wanted "The Internationale". The Star Spangled Banner was a compromise.
When Cruz was born, and probably when he left the country, O Canada wasn't the national anthem.
For the next Republican debate, each of the candidates should dress in the traditional garb of their respective states as they all sing "It's a Small World After All."
79: Or maybe take turns soloing in "We are the World"?
Except of course ,when Trump sings it, it comes out, "I am the World".
Oh, and when Carson sings it, it's "I am the WORD".
When Cruz sings it, it's "We shut down the World."
One of my coworkers just found out that her 16 year old son has stage IV liver cancer. Doctors are saying less than 3% chance of surviving for a year. They do not recommend attempting any treatment. Now I feel depressed.
I thought everyone was being way too hard on Trump for his "wages too high" line, which seemed like an obvious slip of the tongue--he was answering a question about whether the minimum wage should be increased to $15, and it seemed like he was trying to say that wages would be too high at that level, given international competition. Which of course I think is totally wrong but which is completely consistent with the answer given by every other republican candidate. But now I see that he went on tv this morning and said the same thing again--"our wages are too high"--even explaining at more length exactly what he meant by that. (He means what it sounds like.) So.... what the hell?? I'm guessing this guy actually isn't seriously running for office, after all. That's what I'd thought months ago, but he had almost fooled me for a while there. So what's he getting out of all this?
It's the same as when Romney thought Obama had blown the election with the "You didn't build that" boner. Or when Thom Tillis thought his voters were appalled at the government overreach involved in subjecting restaurants to health inspections. The Republican idea of the average Joe Sixpack is someone who runs a small business and has 20 employees. Much like inflation, wages need to be as low as possible for him to achieve the American Dream. "Populism" is cozying up to those jerks instead of the CEO of Dow Chemical.
Much like inflation, wages need to be as low as possible for him to achieve the American Dream.
That's not just small business owners. It has recently been re-confirmed for me that the department where I physically sit will not put me on their payroll even though the money to pay me comes from somewhere else. My salary* would apparently set an alarmingly high precedent that might upset their whole salary scale for people doing similar work. I'm not taking the pay cut because nearly everybody they have actually working for them is a woman and, as a feminist, I don't want to contribute to keeping their salaries down. Also, I don't want to make less money.
* Adjusted for inflation, I'm making the same as I did when I had 15 years less experience and I am actively interviewing with reasonable hopes of getting a 30% higher salary.
I know, it's just really unbelievable. He was a seemingly healthy 16 year old kid, just started complaining about feeling bad, then started feeling terrible, went to the doctor, had a bunch of tests run, and now is being told he's about to die. I can't even begin to imagine.
I'm generally happy with my atheism, but wow does that story make me want to appeal to some supernatural force to keep my kids healthy.
Who lives in New York right now? This sounds like a great opportunity. Also it has the benefits of getting a tattoo, but without the drawbacks of "why did I think this tattoo was a good idea" or "how will I explain to someone more respectable later on why I decided to get a tattoo of (x)?"
So.... what the hell?? I'm guessing this guy actually isn't seriously running for office, after all. That's what I'd thought months ago, but he had almost fooled me for a while there. So what's he getting out of all this?
In complete seriousness, Trump is playing at a reality TV show called "Get The Nomination!" He's insanely competitive. Each episode, another candidate gets voted off. He wants to be the last candidate standing.
Also 83 is horrible and I am so sorry for what the parents must be going through.
95: but my point is he surely must know that saying "wages should be lower" is not the way to win the "Get the Nomination!" reality show. So what's he doing?
I don't think anybody who depends on wages votes in the Republican primaries. It's all "keep the government out of my Medicare" people and coupon clippers.
I wonder if cognitive dissonance has gotten such that a number of (white middle-aged) employees are able to hear "Wages are too high" and only take that as meaning kids, immigrants, minorities, and the undeserving generally, not themselves. (Plus, of course, when they become a business owner Real Soon Now they're going to need low wages and taxes and all that.)
As Trump said, "People have to go out, they have to work really hard, and they have to get into that upper stratum." Aspiration is the cure for all ills.
As near as I can tell (which I can't, except from stereotypes and guessing), most of the opposition from to the movement to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour comes from people making $16 per hour. Or at least the part of the opposition that isn't currently hiring workers at minimum wage.
"The reason a truly hard working American like me doesn't get paid what I'm really worth is because people who aren't as virtuous and hard working as I am get paid more than they're worth and if employers aren't forced to pay them exorbitant amounts by the government that money will flow over to valuable people like me rather than those losers."
Or
"Kids these days are whiny and lazy when I was their age I paid for college by working during it instead of borrowing lots of money and then whining about having to pay it back and/or I didn't waste my time sitting around being lazy and taking sociology courses I went out there and got a job and produced something valuable for society and built a real life for myself that's why I deserve this substantial pension and social security and medicare and so on."
I think it might help. This is the same base that votes away their own medical insurance. Who perpetually believes that they're not the people that the republicans are sneering at and undercutting.
99: If McDonald's workers weren't coddled, then Big Macs wouldn't be so expensive.
103: The interesting thing about the Trump/Carson phenomenon is that, for the moment at least, it looks like the members of the Republican base have finally recognized that they are being sneered at by their betters.
I don't think much of their solution to this, but, hey, they correctly recognize that I sneer at them too. Pissing off people like me is at least half of the point.
This is the same base that votes away their own medical insurance
Like this guy:
Dennis Blackburn has this splintered self-interest. The 56-year-old mechanic hasn't worked in 18 months, since he lost his job at a tire company that supplies a diminishing number of local coal mines. "The old guy had to go home," Blackburn says of his layoff.
[...]
On Election Day, Blackburn voted for Bevin because he is tired of career politicians and thought a businessman would be more apt to create the jobs that Pike County so needs. Yet when it comes to the state's expansion of health insurance, "it doesn't look to me as if he understands," Blackburn said. "Without this little bit of help these people are giving me, I could probably die. . . . It's not right to not understand something but want to stamp it out."
"It's not right to not understand something but want to stamp it out."
Boy, howdy, that's a rich vein of irony that he's mining there.
Has anyone ever noticed how comically broken the separate page that loads through the "Unfogged Reading Group" link on the sidebar is?
104- There's an interesting conversation going on here about a successful restaurant, started as a food truck and now has 6 physical locations and 7 trucks. The owner said he wants to pay a minimum wage of $20/hr so his workers can actually live in the community. He says that would require sandwiches that are currently $6 or $7 eventually (a couple years from now) rising to $10 or $11 which he proposes to do in 25 cent increments every few months. I haven't gotten a good sense of what the reaction is- $10 for lunch isn't that out of line in some of the expensive business areas where the stores are but of course people look at the increase and say that's crazy.
Fred\rik Re\infeldt who was until recently prime minister the the most enlightened and (in summer) topless country in Europe said exactly the same thing the other day about wages. His argument was perfectly simple: unemployment is the worst thing possible. It is better to be usefully employed for little money (and, of course, in ETE, there is a social security net to make up for insufficient wages). Therefore it is better if, in a global economy, employers pay only what they can actually afford.
Of course this sounds entirely different when set against a background of a government which actively regards unemployment as evil and the relief of poverty as a duty.
It also goes entirely against the workings of the present Britihs government, which is cutting the tax credits which alone make the policy morally supportable.
[And, God, the liver cancer story in 83 is dreadful. Interesting how the two possible atheistic reactions are to rage against the God who'd allow it and to supplicate that it not happen to our kids]
"Fuck The Libruls" by C.W.A.
Fuck the libruls, comin' straight from the exurbs
An old white guy got it bad cause I'm conservative,
And not the other politics libruls think
They have the authority to death panel the majority
Fuck that shit 'cause I ain't the one
For a twee motherfucker who hates Jesus and guns,
To be taxin' me, from dawn to noon,
I can watch Fox News in the middle of my living room
Fuckin' with me 'cause I'm a Tea-bagger,
With a little bit of gold and Viagra
115- I have a $50 gift card I won in a raffle, unfortunately you can only retain cash value one it, you can't convert it to sandwich equivalents at current prices to hedge against inflation.
