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Heebie had David Bowie killed.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:15 AM
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Can we pick which celebrity goes next?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:38 AM
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Someone should do a Star wars parody on the theme of "Supreme Leader Swope":

"Supreme Leader says the BB-8 droid is got to have soul!"


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:57 AM
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2: Not without breaking some laws.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:58 AM
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The First Order represents the triumph of Juche thought.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:17 AM
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OPEN THREAD


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:49 AM
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Hey, let's have a progress report on the division of emotional labor! Following recent efforts at enlightenment here and elsewhere, are people pulling their emotional weight in the household? Has anything changed? Has anyone succeeded at taking emotional-labor-accounting seriously and not seeing it as pathological, unlike me?


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:42 AM
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Was this nice PDF (annotation of a metafilter thread) linked here?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:43 AM
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3 is so right on as a concept.


Posted by: Roberto Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:46 AM
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8: Don't think so; just the thread. The thread blew my mind. I'm so far at the apparently masculine end of the spectrum of cluelessness that I wasn't really sure what to do with the gender analysis.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:51 AM
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Our v own nageM got semi-outed by the LA Times, someone not on a phone could find the link. And today's order list included a sweet sweet denial of cert! Personally fantastic, of zero interest to anyone else I know.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:52 AM
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Aw I just found an email from nageM in which she asked me how things were going with [crush of long standing]. (Answer: question assumes facts not in evidence, viz., the existence of "things" which might have gone or not.)


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:58 AM
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The Impaler? Roberto is no longer our most metal Californian.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:58 AM
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The said crush now teaches at Yale!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:58 AM
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This is the link, I assume. [link redacted]


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 10:59 AM
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Maybe that was imprudent.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:02 AM
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lur key, I'm trying not to be too open online about the breakup until it's all done legally, but it's had horrible aspects and being physically free while still doing (or being expected to do) the vast bulk of the emotional work gets exhausting. I hadn't really thought about it in those terms, so I'm glad you brought this back up.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:14 AM
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11: "semi-outed" seems a little strong. "Written about, including discussing her fragile pseudonymity" is more accurate.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:21 AM
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18 was me.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:21 AM
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Hmmm, I wonder if I ever met nosflow's crush. (I know of both crushworthy and uncrushworthy people teaching at Yale.) Thorn, having seen exes continue to be vampires even with no access to physical veins, I won't press you for specifics, but I'm sorry you're going through that particular shitshow. You're welcome to email me to vent if you want to do it less publicly.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:31 AM
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I'll be fine. Today's a grumpy day and there are some of those. She's starting to get better about contacting me through our calendar app instead of sending texts/emails whenever the whim occurs to her, which helps my daily stress level a lot. But the level of emotional labor she expects is ridiculous ("When is the girls' break from school?" "I don't know; let me look it up on the school website like you would have if you had decided to use your brain!") and even having to respond that I'm not engaging takes energy. Since I started counting, we haven't yet made it to one day where she hasn't contacted me, but eventually that will happen and things will get better from there.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 12:55 PM
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21 -- It will get better on its own, but as part of your final settlement you might consider requiring use of Our Family Wizard* or some other messaging program, and a provision stating that you'll only send messages if necessary. Those are pretty standard terms in divorce judgments in this area.

*best business model ever. Take an incredibly cheap web messaging and bulletin board program that probably cost $75,000 to build, design it specifically for divorced couples, convince courts (accurately) that it's a useful tool in divorce that can be court-ordered, watch courts order it, charge $100/year for your service and rake in the profits.


Posted by: Roberto Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 1:35 PM
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22: Yeah, we're probably going to have to do that because the one we're using now doesn't track edits and timestamps and things like that. The mediator we were seeing recommended Our Family Wizard but was ok with this cheaper app, but we're not yet at a legal point where compliance is required and so she doesn't comply.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 1:42 PM
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"Our Family Wizard" sounds like the office Ron and Hermione will be at after six years married.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 1:52 PM
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Cause lord knows Ron isn't going to be doing any EL.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 1:55 PM
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[A]re people pulling their emotional weight in the household?

Does saying "They aren't my friends; I don't care" count?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:16 PM
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Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance they're no friends of mine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:20 PM
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25: Erectum Leviosa.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:21 PM
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Moby's 27 is the first non-Bowie musical reference I've seen today. Honestly it seems sort of disrespectful.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:31 PM
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But fabulous. I laughed at 27.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:45 PM
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Thanks for noticing! It has been pending for months, and I've had all sorts of time to flip back and forth between "I'll be summarily fired" and I'll be"given a huge promotion." Most likely, it'll turn out like most blog things and no one will really notice.


Posted by: nageM | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:57 PM
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It is a very fragile pseudonymity. Lots of people who read blogs could identify me.


Posted by: nageM | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:59 PM
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I thought that was a Bowie song.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 2:59 PM
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33: Now, that is disrespectful!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 3:14 PM
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Technically, it was trolling.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 5:08 PM
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I have a question: Now that I've moved up in the world into a semi-selective low-paid 2-year training position, I have the power of life and death over the people who are applying to join me doing the same thing (one person is supposed to start every year). Question: Someone applying to the job is not supposed to invite me to join her LinkedIn network, right? That puts me in an awkward position. Is this a sign of craziness? If it isn't, good, because I thought she was a good candidate.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:00 PM
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I think the linkedin request is harmless, if slightly awkward. The rules are different from other social networks: no one reveals anything on linkedin except job changes, and regardless of the outcome of this application you work in similar areas and are now acquainted with one another's work. But you can certainly hold off on responding to the request until you've made a hiring decision.

I wouldn't even take it as a bad sign, necessarily. If she's willing to treat the job application process, which is a necessary evil, as a way to network, more power to her. I wouldn't do it, but I can understand it.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:10 PM
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I agree. If you find it awkward, just ignore it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:29 PM
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I never heard the the about LinkedIn-ing after a job interview. Though I never did it either.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:34 PM
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I should try to link to the yoga teacher who keeps showing up in their suggestions.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:40 PM
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Too late. Not there anymore.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 6:52 PM
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Speaking of positions, how can you attach a dollar value to the upheaval and stress of moving across a state? Asking for a friend who just a got a job offer that is a fair bit more than he currently makes by a fair bit but less than he had hoped.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:06 PM
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Not a rhetorical question. Answer with a formula or dollar amount.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:06 PM
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Answering won't count as emotional labor if you never sleep with me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:08 PM
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Maybe I'll just get some guns and go to Oregon like the rest of the befuddled middle-aged white guys.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:25 PM
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Better practice tearing down fences with your bare hands.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:51 PM
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It says just the one guy used his bare hands. The slightly less stupid ones stole an excavator. Which I could totally do if I knew where one was and how to drive one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:54 PM
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The refuge presumably has a maintenance yard where they store their heavy equipment. I don't think finding the excavator was a challenge even for these guys.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 7:58 PM
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He didn't even wear gloves?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:03 PM
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Doesn't everybody have one of these in their truck?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:06 PM
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50: srsly.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:15 PM
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That one is a small version for home use, I guess. It would be really hard to put a hole in the sidewall of a tire with that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:16 PM
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I Stand with Linda Sue Beck: The Attack on Science at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. A perspective generally missing in coverage of the Oregon numbskulls.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:16 PM
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The occupiers of the refuge poke fun at Beck, her research on fish, and the normal trappings of a research station, including a dried bird in a storage area. They incredulously claim that the bird is "what they're going to kill people over." Presumably "they" is the federal government, and they mean to convey that Nature -- the birds, the fish, the land -- has no use or value.

This speaks volumes about the mindset and motivations of these guys.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:40 PM
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I can't wait to see the Michael Bay movie of this thing. (Went to see The Big Short this weekend and was assaulted with the Benghazi trailer, and holy shit does it appear to be Battlefield Earth-level bad.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:42 PM
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I think it's also relevant to the authorities' hands-off approach to dealing with them.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:42 PM
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You can't have the government arrest Travolta no matter how bad the movie was.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 8:49 PM
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This is in fact one of the hottest takes ever. You know who else might have had their life spared by gun control?
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:06 PM
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You know who else might have had their life spared by gun control?

Whichever poor FBI agent draws the short straw and has to try to arrest Ammon Bundy?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:12 PM
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58: Imagine that horrible world where Hitler was put on trial at Nuremberg.

...do you think the gifs that would come out of it would be better or worse than Downfall?


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:14 PM
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Gif versions of these would probably be pretty good. Maybe call it a tie?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:16 PM
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The entire list in 58 (from the Daily Caller) is preciously stupid but after Hitler the best might be Lee Harvey Oswald. See with gun control we never would have learned he was the kind of bad person who would shoot a president, and after he didn't shoot a president he wouldn't have been killed without a trial.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:22 PM
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These Malheur dudes are PR gold.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 9:29 PM
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See, the thing I don't think everyone realizes about these guys is that, laughable as they are, they really are armed to the teeth and dangerous as hell. They are very clearly trying to provoke a violent confrontation, and committed to fighting to the death. Anyone who tries to arrest them is virtually 100% certain to die, and anyone who tries to restrict their movements even within the local area is only slightly less certain to die. Under these circumstances, I at least find it easy to understand the thinking of the authorities who have so far been judging it more productive to try to wait them out until they get bored and go home.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-16 11:59 PM
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What, so we can't use drones in the US?


To the mountains of Afghanistan,
But not the refuges of Oregonistan,
When in doubt, send the drones!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 12:42 AM
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They are very clearly trying to provoke a violent confrontation, and committed to fighting to the death.

I think it's more that they're trying to get shit for free by provoking a violent confrontation while appearing to be committed to fighting to the death. Like an unusually vigorous mugger or whatever.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:12 AM
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64: That's why I don't understand why the roads aren't blocked and the power cut off. I'm not sure you're right that they're poised to kill anyone who interferes with them -- I don't get those people, so I know I don't have much judgment about what they're likely to do. But good lord should someone be trying to get them under control non-violently.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:22 AM
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We get a Winter Weather Advisory based on a forecast calling for one to three inches of snow and the police won't do anything about armed insurrection. America is growing soft. No more hot baths and everybody needs to do at least six miles running today.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:40 AM
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Giving in to people looking to provoke a violent confrontation in the hope that they'll get bored and move on doesn't seem like a great strategy.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:40 AM
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You can only do four miles.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:49 AM
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I'm really more of a sprinter. What if I give up my shower today?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:52 AM
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I'd like to think that 66 is basically right, but there's a religious angle to this, and religion makes people do strange things sometimes.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:15 AM
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I can't even run 4 right now. I worked up to half marathon this fall and re-damaged my knee cartilage (I did that once ~14 yrs ago, fortunately it only took ~4 years to heal).

Fortunately I can swim and it *seems* like I can row, though I'm not going to take many chances with the rowing.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:21 AM
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I bet you used hot water and that's the problem.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:25 AM
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Likely.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:58 AM
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Speaking of positions, how can you attach a dollar value to the upheaval and stress of moving across a state?.... Answer with a formula or dollar amount.

30 days X Daily Subsistence Allowance(DSA) plus an additional 50% of that for each dependent + one month salary.

Pick whatever DSA seems appropriate. At my organization, ballpark for Philly would probably be around $340. So, the DSA portion would be $10Kish plus $5Kish for each dependent, and then add a month's salary to that.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:37 AM
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Oh, and whatever number that is, subtract moving and relocation expenses to determine what you actually get to pocket.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:38 AM
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Thank you. I'm assuming everybody else wants to sleep with me. Maybe they used that formula to calculate the offer? Because they're as close to that as they can be, given the pay grades.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:45 AM
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I didn't answer because my answer is that I can't imagine anything that would entice me to move across town, let alone across state. When I thought they were going to steal my park, I thought we might have to move, but it doesn't seem like that will happen now, and that was the only time in the last 15 years I've considered, even briefly, relocating.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:52 AM
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Maybe they did. Its the International Civil Service Commission standard.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:53 AM
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Do the feds use it?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:55 AM
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It may have been originally lifted from the Feds.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:56 AM
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A job I'm well-qualified for just opened up in a the capital of a certain war-torn former-Soviet republic. I understand the capital is several hundred kilometers away from the war-torn part.

Seems like a nice enough city, except isolated and cold.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 5:08 PM
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A job I'm well-qualified for just opened up in a the capital of a certain war-torn former-Soviet republic. I understand the capital is several hundred kilometers away from the war-torn part.

Seems like a nice enough city, except cold and far from lots of stuff.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 5:09 PM
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For what transgression am I being punished by having to sit next to this recruiting poster for Wa/mar/tLabs that says "We own our recipe for open source technology"? With some gingerbread people pictured. Run, run, as fast as you can!


Posted by: Lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 5:55 PM
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Did you kill a panda?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:07 PM
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Oh good heavens, it didn't die.


Posted by: Lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:43 PM
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I ain't never killed a panda that didn't need killing.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 6:46 PM
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I brought home wine and cupcakes because it was snowing. But now I'm hungry for panda.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:11 PM
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Some people like to eat Giant Panda, but for my money, Red Panda is far more delicious.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:20 PM
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The only store near me is a run-down Giant Eagle. They don't even have giant panda.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 7:23 PM
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So did anybody watch the State of the Union? I didn't.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:14 PM
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I thought it was tomorrow.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:17 PM
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I did. Apparently the president feels that people of good will on all sides should come together and make America strong.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:26 PM
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Hasn't he learned anything in the past eight years?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:31 PM
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Tall order. How many people of good will are there?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:34 PM
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It's like those hateful "COEXIST" bumper stickers.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:34 PM
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Tall order. How many people of good will are there?

Oh, six or so, I think.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:37 PM
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About a Sodom's worth?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:38 PM
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Maybe people of good will on all sides could get together and throw in for a couple of pizzas.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:39 PM
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People of good humor should keep sending bags of dicks to those Oregon boogers.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:45 PM
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Let me tell you right now, Sodomsworth is NOT a good department store.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:50 PM
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101: The bag of dicks thing doesn't even cheer me. I don't feel like they should be getting incoming mail; that seems a step too far in the direction of not interfering with them. They're messing stuff up over there! It's depressing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:52 PM
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102: Well, it depends what you're into.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:53 PM
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"You don't come here for the housewares, do you?"


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 8:54 PM
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I have had several hours of leisure time to determine that I was being punished for the impure thought that I should attach a bag of condoms to the sign, which I walk past every commute-day, that says "PIV SERVICES."


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 9:19 PM
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DO IT


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 9:22 PM
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I think you have to somehow associate them with the "Investools" office down the street, which actually has parking spots marked "INVESTOOLS PARKING ONLY."


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 01-12-16 9:37 PM
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In the light of Unfogged's French Laundry fandom history, this epic stinker review of Per Se is on topic, I think:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/dining/pete-wells-per-se-review.html


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 3:35 AM
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Although a slight infelicity of style did give me the impression the fish the reviewer ate had a name:

Lubina, the European sea bass, was sheathed in handsome golden scales of potato and bewitchingly sauced with a reduction of red wine and port swirled with butter.

Hey Lubina! You're really rocking those golden scales! Have you lost weight?


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 3:37 AM
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An infelicity of style? In the New York Times? STYLE PROBLEMS UNPOSSIBLE, WITH CERTAINTY, SAYS VETERAN GRAY LADY'S EDITOR.

Maybe it did have a name. Maybe the other sea bass were "Anatoly", "Fred", "Marie-France" and "Yoshiko".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 3:53 AM
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And you thought "pick a lobster out of the tank" was a bit creepy...


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 4:17 AM
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"And these are your potatoes, Tim, Roberto, Sven, Janice and Maria."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 4:22 AM
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Douglas Adams got there first at the end of the universe.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-13-16 4:33 AM
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