Re: Adventures in survivor bias

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After civilization collapses, couples with mismatched sleep schedules will have a definite advantage, since one person can stand guard against the roving Road Warrior style gangs while the other sleeps.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 10:35 AM
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If you think a single couple stands a chance against the Lord Humungus, then buddy, you ought to think again.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 10:38 AM
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"Sgt Colon attributed his twenty years of happy marriage to the fact that he worked all night and Mrs Colon worked all day. They communicated by means of notes left in the kitchen. They even had three children, the result, Vimes assumed, of particularly persuasive handwriting."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 10:39 AM
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2: He can't turn his head! All you have to do is strafe to one side while taking advantage of the rocket launcher's splash damage! We've been stuck on this level for three hours!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 11:03 AM
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I picture 4 being delivered in the small hours of the morning by an exasperated Flippanter to an equally exasperated spouse.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 11:19 AM
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It's socially hard to duck out, even when your day is longer. My workday starts at 7:30, while my wife's starts at 10 or 11. But it's hard to end together time and suggest heading to bed at 10.

Part of the compromise is for her to join me in going to bed relatively early, then stay up reading or playing games on her phone while I drift off. There are nights when she tells me she's not tired and I head to bed solo; she usually grabs her blanket for the couch, so she can just lay down when she finishes video gaming.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 5:18 PM
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That means you snore.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 5:24 PM
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Or, if it's always after taco night, gassy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 5:46 PM
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You've got to write that relationship book, Moby.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 6:24 PM
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CREATE JOIN GRANT DROP: The SQL guide to relationships


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 6:28 PM
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"Hickenetics: The Modern Science of Relationships."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-16 6:53 PM
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NMM to my most recent relationship. You can shower me with pity and praise in this thread, which is not otherwise in use.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:44 AM
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I'm very sorry about your most recent relationship. Not that I ever knew it existed before this.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:45 AM
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Sorry or congratulations as appropriate, Neb.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:45 AM
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I just yawned so hard I ripped my shirt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:47 AM
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I hate waking up in the winter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:48 AM
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12: Condolences. Did you have matching sleep schedules? If so, you can blame that.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:51 AM
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Sorry, neb. But now you don't have to share your latest concoctions, at least!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 8:57 AM
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I just yawned so hard I ripped my shirt.

HULK NAP!

"Don't make me lethargic. You wouldn't like me when I'm lethargic."


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:02 AM
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It is pleasurable to share, Thorn.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:10 AM
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NMM to my most recent relationship.

This seems completely backwards.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:12 AM
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The mismatching of sleep schedules reminded me (on a smaller scale) of Patrick O'Brian's observation of "sailors being excellent husbands, often away and handy about the house when ashore."


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:28 AM
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20: It is, but I was trying to make you feel better or something. Gluttony is its own reward is all I'm saying. (The same can be said for breakups, but I don't want to generalize from mine to yours.)


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:34 AM
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Sorry to hear that Neb.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:51 AM
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It wasn't fruitcake-related, was it?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:56 AM
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You're too good for her, neb.

10 is brilliant.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 9:58 AM
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Sympathies, Neb.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:11 AM
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21: heebie gets a prize.

Gluttony is its own reward is all I'm saying.

I engaged in some apparently proleptic retail therapy earlier in the month, anyway.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:23 AM
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I'm sorry, nosflow. Hope you're doing okay. What did you buy for yourself?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:43 AM
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28: Are you thanking me for making that explicit? I genuinely feel like I'm losing my edge.

Also sorry about the MM.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:46 AM
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30: nah I was just wondering who would be the first to make that joke, which only occurred to me after I made the comment.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:51 AM
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What did you buy for yourself?

I started to write it out and then I got embarrassed because it's so much stuff. :/


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:52 AM
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I got, let's see, a primitive antique table to use as a tv stand, some relatively fancy face lotion, new shoes with a cheery Liberty of London print on them. And that's not counting books or anything, two bags of used books Friday to get me through the weekend. I'll bet your choices are better!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 10:57 AM
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Mine are all garments and footwear.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:00 AM
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The items are either garments or footwear or the items are all both garments and footwear combined?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:01 AM
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I suppose that depends on whether or not you consider footwear to be garments in their own right.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:02 AM
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Actually, I take that back. It doesn't depend on that.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:02 AM
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I'm just trying to make people form a mental picture of you in footie pajamas.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:05 AM
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I wouldn't have had to get the face lotion if the fools who live here hadn't decided to empty everything I own into the bathtub to make potions. The table was just to feel like I'm doing something about the house. Garments would be more fun and oh in fact I bought a pair of jeans although it turns out that like always it's not going to fit as well as I'd hoped. (I did sew a skirt this weekend, which probably counts.)


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:22 AM
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This is all just to say that I'm months and months out and still indulging. You should absolutely wrap yourself in finest whatever and enjoy what you can.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:22 AM
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I'm not even post-break-up and I'm indulging.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:26 AM
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NMM to a certain fellowship I put in for this fall for early career special collections librarians. And bummed to find out via twitter instead of email.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:33 AM
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Since we're past 40 comments, I'll note that this group formed to oppose the armed idiots in Oregon sounds pretty great. I like the acronym especially.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:39 AM
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43 Sounds good. I was thinking of sending a dildo but since it's getting pretty cold there maybe a gimp suit would be better appreciated.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 11:44 AM
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Condolences, neb.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 12:16 PM
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Ah, neb, that sucks.


Posted by: Bave | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:03 PM
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Is 44 intended for neb?


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:07 PM
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Because if there's any time to go full dildo+gimp suit, its right after a bad breakup.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:07 PM
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Turn those lemons into lemonade, inside your gimp suit.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:11 PM
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Only if he says it will make him feel better.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:12 PM
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48: this was actually, far from being a bad breakup, the nicest and kindest breakup I've ever been a party to (for which I can claim no credit). It's still sad though!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:15 PM
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Condolences on the breakup. Maybe new shoes?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:16 PM
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49 still applies.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:16 PM
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Whoops, 52 are only sold in Women's sizes, maybe this instead?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:22 PM
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Am I correctly recalling that one of the many evangelical minister sex scandals was a guy found dead in two wetsuits? There may also have been dildos involved.

In any case, Neb, don't do that.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:22 PM
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That is not how I would choose to spend $1000 on a single pair of shoes.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:22 PM
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You can buy wetsuits without feet coverings.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:24 PM
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55.1 turns out to be very easy to google and correct in the essentials.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:26 PM
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My sympathies, neb.


Posted by: X. Trapnel | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:31 PM
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Condolences, neb. She'll regret this! To the OP, the beginning of the end of my marriage was my newly-wed wife's admission that she'd been taking sleeping pills in order to accommodate my desire to sleep, you know, together, like snuggled up, and that otherwise she couldn't tolerate being touched while sleeping. At that point, synchronized sleep schedules seemed kind of pointless, and so it went.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:34 PM
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I have a great deal of difficulty falling asleep touching another person. Maybe I should meet your ex-wife, Jesus?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:36 PM
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"Sleeping together" is just an expression. You were taking it way too seriously.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:38 PM
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Getting a tattoo of an ancient healing symbol is a time-honored way to minister afflictions like those referred to by 60 or by 61. Heebie might like these also.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:41 PM
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I would worry about how that kind of a tattoo would age. That's a lot of detail and any small amount of sagging skin would make it look off.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:43 PM
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61: I'll happily pass on her contact info. Remember that adolescent daughters are part of the package.

How do people sleep together without touching? The rules are that you go to bed, you have sex, you sleep wrapped up in each other, you wake up, you have sex again. Seriously, how hard is that to understand?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:45 PM
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65.2: Since you are Jesus, I guess you do get to make up the rules.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:50 PM
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How do people sleep together without touching?

They may call it a "twin mattress", but it's not for two people.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 1:50 PM
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How do people sleep together without touching?

Cats who like to sleep between their humans.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 2:14 PM
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65.2: I believe "sword between you" is the conventional answer.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 2:18 PM
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Sorry, neb. But now you can help write Moby's relationship guide! #brightside


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 2:42 PM
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(70 intended to have to do with the surplus of free time, not the termination in se.)


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:07 PM
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My wife and I both can't stand touching another person while sleeping. I don't even know how it would work. If the other person moves or does anything, you wake up. That's not good. I would have to take sleeping pills if married to a JMcQ-type person I guess.

This is one sort of compatibility that gets ignored but is very important.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:12 PM
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So far as I know, Hitler liked to snuggle Eva as he fell asleep.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:22 PM
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Until we can know for certain that he didn't, we best not take the chance of trying it ourselves.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:22 PM
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It was when my last marriage progressed to the point of being unable to touch each other while awake that I realised there was a problem


Posted by: Harold MacMillan | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:23 PM
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Sometimes when we touch, the honest's too much.
I have to turn my head and cry.


Posted by: Opinionated Dan Hill | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:27 PM
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Manny Pacquiao has recorded a version of that song. And I'm not making that up.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:28 PM
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"Annabel Lee" is about an extreme case of keeping compatibility alive.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:52 PM
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My dog cured me of my inability to sleep while in close contact. Between him and my cats my unconscious mind has mastered the delicate balance of gently maneuvering around tiny, delicate creatures and fighting with all my strength for bed space.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 3:59 PM
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My wife and I both can't stand touching another person while sleeping

The real questions: how does this other person feel about being touched while sleeping, and what's he or she doing sleeping with you and your wife?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 4:46 PM
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I don't mind cuddling with kittens while I sleep, but one of the new ones is a face-licker. Like he goes on a tear, not just an isolated lick. I can't sleep through that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 6:04 PM
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I want to make an appropriate in context, but also inappropriate, caulk joke on a friend's social media post and I just can't do it.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 6:16 PM
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Auto-caulk-blocked? That sucks, bro.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-19-16 6:38 PM
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