I was waiting for a thread about this. Now maybe the lawyers can explain which/how many laws they broke with that survey. Especially with Dr. Evil pretty much openly stating in an email that it was for the purpose of identifying bunnies to drown.
Laws aside, has no one in this fiasco any shame at all? No chagrin at having been exposed for drawing a bead on a bunch of teenagers and then booting some big scary academics for complaining?
Via the LGM thread, it sounds like it's not an ADA issue at least wrt depression, given the guidelines about when depression counts as disability. And the college isn't bound by the same rules governing health care providers, I think was the consensus.
Among the many things that blow my mind about this, is that the non-TT guy who got fired for being the newspaper advisor *is a former trustee*! It seems crazy that the other trustees don't have his back.
It's interesting that because it's a catholic school, in addition to the usual array of business people there's also a bunch of bishops on the board of trustees.
"Former" trustee means maybe he got booted after loosing the battle over whether to bring in Mr. Glock-the-Bunnies to run the college like a proper business.
Looking this place up, I just realized that I went there on a Catholic pilgrimage in high school. They run one of the biggest Catholic shrines and pilgrimage destinations in the country, so it isn't surprising to me that they'd be on the run-a-school-like-a-business bandwagon.
I didn't get the impression that it was that recent. It seems plausible that you can't be a trustee and an employee, so he hasn't been a trustee in a decade or so.
8: Oh wow! I've driven past there many many times since it's on the route between my parents and Dulles. I hadn't put that together until your comment (I also didn't realize it was an important shrine that people actually went to, I just thought it was a funny sign.)
It's interesting that because it's a catholic school, in addition to the usual array of business people there's also a bunch of bishops on the board of trustees.
It's not just a Catholic school, it was the first Catholic college founded in the USA. A lot of the campus is basically a shrine to Mother Elizabeth Seton.
Elizabeth Seton is the patron saint of seafarers
The bunnies just have to pray to her and they'll be ok.
5: But surely asked "Do you have a learning disability" and then culling students who say "yes" is a violation of the ADA?
Also, is it true that no action can be taken unless a student makes a complaint of discrimination?
One would think the Trustees would decide to give Glocky the boot in the name of fixing a PR disaster.
My assumption was that the 'culling' was more informal - along the lines of "are you really sure you belong here? perhaps you're not capable of this kind of thing because of your horrible character problems and should leave". I'd be genuinely surprised if just straight up expelling them for it would pass muster, prior to any actual bad behavior on the part of the students or trouble passing classes or something. But a kind of nagging "you don't really belong here do you" approach might.
Of course ending up in the news talking about it the way the President did is going to make it hard for the university to come off sympathetically if anyone sues, so...
I don't think it would be a violation under the ADA, but there are other laws that schools have to follow. IDEA and section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act, usuallly.
With 504 a person usually has to file a complaint. (The regs vary from agency to agency. Thanks, Congress. Education's regs date to the 1980s. But so did my former department's. DOJ is trying to get everyone to do updates.) But, ADA/504 protection is not just for a person with a disability, but for a person who has a history of (e.g., cancer in remission), or is perceived as being a person with a disability. The latter can be a big opening.
504's core is very short: No otherwise qualified individual with a disability in the United States, as defined in section 705(20) of this title, shall, solely by reason of her or his disability, be excluded from the participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance or under any program or activity conducted by any Executive agency or by the United States Postal Service.
My assumption was that the 'culling' was more informal
That was the way it was supposed to be enacted, but when the president says "My short term goal is to have 20-25 people leave by the 25th [of Sep.]" you can imagine that strong measures are going to be taken.
My assumption was that the 'culling' was more informal
That was the way it was supposed to be enacted, but when the president says "My short term goal is to have 20-25 people leave by the 25th [of Sep.]" you can imagine that strong measures are going to be taken.
Why would anyone be surprised by ruthless, thuggish behavior by the institution that brought the world the crusades, the inquisition and the pedophile scandals?
Further proof that religion don't mean jack when it comes to actually guiding peoples' morality.
Further proof that religion don't mean jack when it comes to actually guiding peoples' morality in a positive direction.
Doesn't it seem like charter schools are pursuing the same basic strategy with much younger kids?
Latest news is that president bunnyglocker has hastened to assure the tenured professor that he fired that, actually, he was just kidding and he (the professor) is "still on the payroll", which seems like a roundabout way of saying "still employed by the university". Presumably, he spoke to a lawyer who informed him of how many breaches of contract he committed by firing a tenured professor with no due process of any kind.
Has some heavy metal band recorded a song titled "Glock the Bunnies"? If not, why not?
Wow that charter school sounds genuinely horrifying. And also yes, it does sound like almost the exact same thing.
Hey wow, you can sing "Glock the Bunnies" to the tune of "Shock the Monkey." And now I'm not going to be able to get that out of my head all day.
OTish (but related to evils in academia): have people seen this?
A researcher in Russia has made more than 48 million journal articles - almost every single peer-reviewed paper every published - freely available online. And she's now refusing to shut the site down, despite a court injunction and a lawsuit from Elsevier, one of the world's biggest publishers.
The video in 25 seriously almost brings me to tears. What a horrible worthless shit of a woman.
28: That's awesome.
29: I hope the site is called Aaron Swartz's Revenge.
Thanks for 29, I've been wanting something like that.
32: You can already get most articles from libgen. Or so I have heard.