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You're not going to tell us what the game is, right?

Safest that way.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:51 AM
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Or, possibly you linked to it right in the post. Never mind.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:53 AM
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He linked to the game, LB.

I'm the best at actually reading the post.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:53 AM
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Look, I've been having a bad day.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:53 AM
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There's an ARG element to it. The first stage of the game involves finding the link to the game itself.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:53 AM
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The week, not so good itself.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:54 AM
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Have I mentioned how my month has been going?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:54 AM
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The second stage is being pwned. The third stage, like in all ARGs, is discovering your life is an elaborately constructed lie.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:55 AM
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I'm sorry, LB.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:55 AM
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I read the description, no one tell ogged those aren't other people, they're computer sims designed to be beaten by certain skill levels.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:58 AM
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It's all right, just vicissitudes.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:59 AM
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I have, at two different points in my career, been the best in the world at programming in a scripting language which wasn't used by more than one or two other people*.

* different scripting languages. The second of which was referred to as "dot Ned" because apparently somebody named Ned had been the primary developer.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:02 AM
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I suppose I could be the best in the world at multitasking while doing the kind of transcription I do, but there could be other people who are better at it and probably lots of other people who would be better at it but wouldn't bother trying to verbally transcribe a conversation while also reading a book or whatever.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:07 AM
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I'm fairly certain I'm the world's leading expert on the current charitable activities of the Benevolent and Protective Order of Elks.


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:17 AM
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verbally transcribe a conversation while also reading a book

That is impressive.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:19 AM
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Twice in my life I've been either best or in the top 3 at research topics-- once a really specialized physics thing, the paper only got cited about a dozen times by other groups, and once at a computational biology thing-- combination of understanding an approach to solve a problem, partly inherited, and a body of code that implemented the approach, which produced datasets useful to many.

Ranking is IMO a deeply flawed idea for most human endeavor. Very few human activities lend themselves to a scalar measure of quality. The impulse to rank I think has 2 sources:
1) from spectator sports, which, beneath contempt obviously.
2) from bureaucracy's need for context-free data, suitable for even demoralized and possibly inept clerks or their confused software replacements. Not exactly beneath contempt, but something to view as unfortunately useful rather than as a mode of assessment that's suitable for much outside of filing.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:23 AM
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Hmm, a high school friend of mine was a physics grad student and now does computational biology. I wonder if you know each other.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:33 AM
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15: It's impressive because you've never tried to do it and there's a bit of a learning curve to the transcription part. Some people, coworkers included, never get good at it. I just lucked into something I find easy and can do well. Work still sucks, of course, because it's work.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:35 AM
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17. I don't know if there's survey data, but I'd say dba/systems architect, mathematical finance, and computational biology are all destinations for very many physics grads. Finance before 2000 or so was more popular, biology now I think.

There's some crossover-- I see a number of fairly prominent people in physics departments working on biological systems. Some of this work is pretty nice-- John Marko and collaborators have a very nice physical model for chromosomes that seems to be applicable to open questions in research biology.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:44 AM
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Nothing, I think. Not even close.

I'm pretty good in a jack-of-all-trades way at a large number of things, and I'm probably one of a single figure number of the top experts in my work field* in the UK, but that's not much of a claim.

When I was an academic, I wouldn't even have claimed to the best in my immediate peer group, never mind anything more global than that.

* in the cultural heritage space, that is.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:48 AM
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The key isn't to be the best at anything in the real world, which you (for most definitions of "you") can't do unless you find some table tennis app that no one else plays. The key is to create fantasy worlds where you are the best at everything.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:50 AM
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Not saying I'm the best Quoridor player in the world but I've never played against anyone better.


Posted by: torque | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:52 AM
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Congratulations, ogged! Do your children respect you now?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:04 PM
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I'm certain that I'm the very best at doing something, but I haven't discovered that thing yet.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:05 PM
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I can comment on unfogged better than almost anyone. Out of any randomly selected group of people on earth I'm probably better at it than 99.99 percent of them.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:13 PM
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You really only have to be a barely competent novice at something to be better than 99.99% of randomly-selected people at it.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:15 PM
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I was possibly the best in the world at giving lost people directions in a labyrinthine brutalist nightmare building whose corridors I often haunted while failing to write my dissertation.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:16 PM
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25: You're right!

On the other hand I let a capuchin monkey post as "peep" here one day, and no one could tell the difference.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:16 PM
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I'm really good at taking other people's jokes that are supposed to rely on subtlety and irony and then making them explicit.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:19 PM
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27: Think how many lives you saved! So much more important than some stinking dissertation!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:19 PM
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I'm just a bryophyte, and no-one's said anything.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:22 PM
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I was actually reflecting, when writing 27, on some things I'm barely competent at, not attempting to explicitate MHPH's joke. (MHPH is more than barely competent at commenting on unfogged, after all.)

I'm pretty good at tying slipped half-hitches in grocery store plastic bags for ease of later opening, but am I the best? Probably not. Top ten, maybe.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:23 PM
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I'm very good at writing upside-down, because I do it during office hours so that the page stays oriented for the student across the desk. But no way am I the best at it.

I'm the best Heebie I can be.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:31 PM
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I know things that hardly anybody else knows because we have a writing backlog.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:33 PM
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Assuming historical averages, I'm not the best Hick I can be.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:36 PM
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I may be the best me I can be under the present circumstances, but that's basically a tautology and even now I'm too good to be impressed by that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:40 PM
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Not a tautology! I'm far from being the best me I can be under current circumstances.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:44 PM
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Unless failings of character and motivation count as circumstances, which might reasonably argued.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:45 PM
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Posted by: Opinionated Capuchin Monkey commenting as Peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:45 PM
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O(0.0)O


Posted by: Opinionated Capuchin Monkey commenting as Peep | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:45 PM
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But never will be, because I was too busy rescuing people from bad architecture.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:46 PM
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TAKE YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF MY MORBID SELF-REFLECTION!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:49 PM
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I bet I could have been an above-average Heebie.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:54 PM
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Hilarious instance of "be the best X you can be" realized in S2 of televised Fargo.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 12:57 PM
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I am one of the top players of Race for the Galaxy on board game arena. :)


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:21 PM
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I'm the best in the world at the informatics system we were given money to develop and publicly release but that no one else bothers to use. The system is called <NOUN> and I was known by the project team as The <NOUN>.
It would make more sense if I told you what the word was but that's too revealing. It is not "shit".


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:26 PM
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Speculum?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:36 PM
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I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I do best is criticize other people's life choices.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:37 PM
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I'm really good at knowing lots of nouns.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:52 PM
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Back when I was young and had infinite free time, I was arguably the best in a mildly obscure video game for a couple seasons (maybe thousands or tens of thousands of active players, with a few hundred competitive players).

Since then, nothing. I've worked on teams that have created, arguably, the best system in the world for X, for a couple different values of X. But on every team I've worked on, it's been pretty clear that there are folks that are more productive than me and that I could be replaced, so it's nothing about me in particular.

45: did you ever play on keldon? I've tried BGA and the interface seems like a mess compared to keldon.


Posted by: sral | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 1:53 PM
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(MHPH is more than barely competent at...

Theres nothing like ((recently) having been a graduate student to make something like this, actually feel like a genuine, significant complement.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:00 PM
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Oh shoot. One of the unclosed html tags didn't carry over after the blockquote. I would have checked to make sure it was doing that by hitting 'preview', but I felt like that would be incompatible with the spirit of the joke.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:01 PM
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What are you the best in the world at?

Nuthin. In fact, In my own perspectives, I have never even approached average or mediocre at anything I have attempted. That includes the most mundane of daily activities, walking across the room. I remember toasting my poptarts incompetently every single time this week. Always too soft or burnt, never right. I don't even breathe right.

I even always fail and am humiliated in my most megalomanaical wish-fulfillment fantasies. I crash the fighter jet and railroad engine, get impeached as president, my cure for cancer has terminal side effects. I get rejected in my wet dreams.

The computational neuroscientists Ogi Ogas "A Billion Wicked Thoughts" used online histories, porn searches and fan/slash fiction to determine what men and women want, what turned them on.

Men, straight or gay, want tits and ass.

Women demand "confidence and competence"

No wonder there's a patriarchy.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:31 PM
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Nuthin. In fact, In my own perspectives, I have never even approached average or mediocre at anything I have attempted. That includes the most mundane of daily activities, walking across the room. I remember toasting my poptarts incompetently every single time this week. Always too soft or burnt, never right. I don't even breathe right.

I even always fail and am humiliated in my most megalomanaical wish-fulfillment fantasies. I crash the fighter jet and railroad engine, get impeached as president, my cure for cancer has terminal side effects. I get rejected in my wet dreams.

Bob, you are absolutely the best person in the world at whatever it is you do on the internet. I can't exactly express what that is (it's not "troll and piss off liberals," but it's not exactly not that, either), but you are clearly the world's best person at it. Nobody else even comes close. There are a lot of people out there trying to do what you do. I don't think any other commenter here can say the same.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:38 PM
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Quality recognizes quality.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:41 PM
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Academia is great for being the best at very specific things. I'm probably the world expert at identifying specific examples of [objects I study]. Like if you've run across a weird [object I study] and you don't know what it is, I'd probably be the person you'd email. I used to be the best in the world at explaining results in [field one] to people in [field two] (and vice-versa), but I seem to have done too good a job at that and now people those groups can just talk to each other directly.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:50 PM
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I'm pretty goddamned pleased with how good I was today at speaking before City Council today. It was a hearing about the rezoning of our park*, and you have a fairly strict 3 minute limit (you basically get one sentence after the timer goes off, no more). I didn't want to prepare anything in advance because I wanted to be able to react to/play off of previous testimony, but I did have some maps I'd prepared. My daughter's oldest friend (whose parents we met in the park before any of us had kids) was there, and I had her hold up the maps. In 3 minutes I managed to: humanize the moment by relating what I just wrote about her, explain the maps, summarize the three themes of prior speakers, wax a bit about how ungenerous the developer had been through the process ("Ungenerous" brought an audible scoff from their asshole lawyer), and bring it back to the three themes. I was proud of myself.

And then this old guy, stereotypical old school lefty who is such a regular at Council that the President greeted him warmly, went up there and talked about larger issues, specific issues, likely corruption of the process by developer money, and whether or not Council would take an honest stand, and finished half a second before the timer went off. The man was an artist. If he'd had a bat, he would have been justified in flipping it.

*we just saw that the Mayor sent out a big press release that the park will stay publicly owned, and that any reconfiguration would come only after a thorough, collaborative planning process. It seems that the developer's attempts to strong-arm their way to a maximally exploitative scheme have failed, but we're still only cautiously optimistic.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 2:58 PM
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Apparently I'm also really good at thread-killing.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 3:17 PM
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I used to be really good at Intellivision baseball. That is as close to true mastery as I'll ever come, I bet.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 3:55 PM
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I don't think I am even close to being the best in the world at any one skill, but I think I have a diverse enough skill set that I could pick three or four and maybe have a hope of being the best at those - i.e. no one would be better than me at all of them.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:06 PM
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"Best on the blog" might be more interesting and contentious, but would probably just lead to ridiculously fine-grained definition fights about various kinds of trolling.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:21 PM
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I'm the best on the blog at posting my income and SAT scores.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:27 PM
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I don't know if I'm the best in the world, but I'm pretty solid at getting any meeting to burst into laughter, especially news meetings.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:28 PM
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"Best on the blog" might be more interesting and contentious

How about "most on the blog." I am most likely to (over-)use the construction, "I acknowledge . . .", "I admit ... ", or "granted . . .".


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:39 PM
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I'm reminded of what Messiaen supposedly used to say, that he was the best composer among ornithologists and the best ornithologist among composers. Those of us who don't play the table-tennis game might have to try for the intersection of several sets.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 4:51 PM
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I don't think I'm world class, but I've probably got more Craig Worthington baseball cards than anyone you know.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 5:24 PM
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Yup, I am AFAIK the only even rudimentary Western speaker of a particular Chinese dialect. I am the 2nd non-Chinese scholar to study it, and the first was a Japanese man in the 1930s. I still struggle to string together anything more than the most rudimentary of sentences, so it's hardly something that I really feel is worth bragging about.


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Or you could flip it on its head, and award a Mr/Ms congeniality award to the nicest commenter.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 5:31 PM
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Fuck that


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 5:34 PM
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I don't see anyone else mentioning it, but NMM to Rob Ford. He'd probably prefer you keep going, though.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 5:36 PM
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That's the third mention of it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 5:36 PM
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When I was in grade school, I would walk to school carrying my string bass without using my hands or arms (and without it being in any way strapped to me) I have no evidence that I was best in the world at this, but I really hope I was.


Posted by: Calypso | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 6:18 PM
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...how?


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 7:16 PM
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73, if that's addressed to me: I would lean backwards and rest the bass on its side on my torso with, and this is key, the scroll hooked behind my neck. If it was windy, which it often was, I would tack to keep it from blowing off. There was no point to this other than the fact that it was hard to do.


Posted by: Calypso | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 8:00 PM
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50- I've played vs the keldon AI a couple of thousand games. The interface is better in some ways, though it takes fewer clicks to play a game on bga. I like people better. I was playing keldon a lot recently as I wanted to play with the aliens expansion, but I have to recompile now that I switched to Linux.


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 8:02 PM
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I wonder how much longer Harold Stassen jokes will still be relevant and what people will say while waiting for returns when they are no longer comprehensible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 8:27 PM
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Wait, is this the primary thread? I was posting in the other one with a very similar name.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 8:31 PM
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that seems to be played by about fifty people in the world

I'll bet there are way more than fifty players, though.

(I'm best at being genuinely impressed by ogged's best.)


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 9:52 PM
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There is a possibility that I am best in the world at DIVE (the variant of 3s/2048). At least I have not seen any higher score than mine posted online, including some discussions by the creator and a friend on their good scores (on Google+ but annoyingly cannot find right now). Probably no one plays it anywhere as much as I do.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:44 PM
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I don't think I've ever played a Freecell game I didn't (eventually) solve.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:52 PM
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75: Keldon used to have a really active group of people playing against each other! Not for a long time though. Probably not since isotropic became active, which was maybe 2009 or 2010?

I find it weird that online boardgames have regressed since then. Hasn't technology gotten better? What gives?


Posted by: sral | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 10:53 PM
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79: Am I misremembering, or are you the author of the funniest comment on the internets that I have ever read?

may I get out the van now, sir?

(Honourable mention to bob mcmanus for inspiring the comment).


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:05 PM
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may I get out OF the van now, sir?


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:07 PM
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I think you'll need to provide a link for that for those of us who don't remember the context.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:08 PM
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may I get out of the van now, sir?

Scroll to 141, responding to 137.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:14 PM
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It's in this thread. I thought, reading it just now, that I was in the same boat as the people asking for an explanation, but the explanation is what I thought it was, except I thought it couldn't be that because it's only mildly funny to me.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:18 PM
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It was extremely funny, but alas i did not write it. I just nearly cried at my desk stifling laughter.

86 is the original. The thread in 85 was someone re-using it. Maybe me; don't remember.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:22 PM
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I don't remember either of those threads, and per CTRL-F I don't seem to have commented in them either. They may have been during one of my occasional hiatuses from Unfogged.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:22 PM
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I guess I would have been in grad school at the time. I don't remember taking any breaks from Unfogged then, but maybe I did. Or I've just forgotten those threads.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:25 PM
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But the threads haven't forgotten you, teo.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:35 PM
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Well, obviously. I'm unforgettable.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:36 PM
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The Giving Threads


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:45 PM
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I think I actually did stop reading for a while after that later thread with the joke. And look where it got me!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-22-16 11:59 PM
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I showed this to my 15 year old and suggested he make the effort to try to beat ogged. (He plays some game that counts your keyboard/mouse actions, and he's on an average of about 150/minute, which seems sufficient to play table tennis. The best players of that game have an average of about 400 actions/minute. I can't help but wonder whether their skills could be put to better use.) Then he told me that for a while he was about 20th in the world at Super Meat Boy, which has cheered up my short but crappy morning.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 12:55 AM
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I have never lost a game of Trivial Pursuit. When I used to play Hearts, I would almost always win. (I don't remember the strategy anymore.)


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 1:08 AM
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re: 95.1

Ditto. I used to occasionally play everyonet. As in, occasionally I went to family type parties in my teens when a board would come out, and after a few times of realising that individuals weren't going to beat me, we used to have games with various teams, but I'd play on my own. Sometimes the other team would just be everyone except me. I always won.

But, I suspect that wouldn't be the case if I played a group that included median Unfogged people.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 2:35 AM
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94: I briefly thought asilon was introducing her(?) offspring to the blog, and was touched.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 2:44 AM
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re 95.1 AIMHMHB The first autumn when trivia quiz machines were introduced to English pubs, I didn't buy a drink for about four months. I drank entirely off my winnings. It was the apotheosis of my precocity. Then they started fixing it so that there was lots of unavoidable pop culture and sport, and I was stuffed.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 4:51 AM
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"I get rejected in my wet dreams." is a line that makes Bob best in the world at something. We just have to name it


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 4:52 AM
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98. True story. Some lads from my office formed a live trivia team and were quite successful. One night one of their number was a bit late and came in with a carrier bag from Waterstones. The team tied for the win, and the tie-break question was "How many bones are there in the human head?" The latecomer picked up his bag and said, "I've got a copy of Grey's Anatomy here." Job done.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 5:06 AM
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Pub quizzes are always a bit hit and miss. In my experience, particularly in 'local' pubs, they are often fixed in favour of regulars. Sometimes blatantly, but sometimes just in the sense that there might be a round or two with questions that only a regular attendee might get or expect.

I used to go with workmates to a quiz in a bar in Glasgow which was a real 'event'. They had (ironic) comperes, and girls holding up the cards as if it was a 1970s game show. Video rounds, where they'd show cheesy pop videos or episodes of the Simpsons or bad sitcoms. There were various live action booze-involving rounds. Music rounds were usually fairly 'hip'.

It attracted a youngish indie-ish crowd -- mid-90s hipsters --and would often be completely packed with yelling punters, as if it was a gig rather than a quiz. I don't think we ever won the prize money (which could be hundreds of pounds) but we did fairly often get free booze for being in the final couple of teams eliminated.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 5:46 AM
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I've got a pub quiz tonight as it happens. Not been to this one before so I'm a bit apprehensive (I am completely shit at music and sport and celebrity identification/trivia rounds), but from the description it sounds like it's in my wheelhouse.

re 95.1 AIMHMHB The first autumn when trivia quiz machines were introduced to English pubs, I didn't buy a drink for about four months. I drank entirely off my winnings. It was the apotheosis of my precocity. Then they started fixing it so that there was lots of unavoidable pop culture and sport, and I was stuffed.

I particularly enjoyed the subtle way the Clue(do) machines handled winning streaks. After a series of fairly reasonable if often difficult questions, it would suddenly throw out stuff that was basically asking you to guess, like "What is the specific gravity of $foo"


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I'm also completely shit at filling in my name, apparently.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:03 AM
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Yeah, there was one quiz machine I remember which used to sometimes throw out questions where two answers were entirely plausible/correct, and you basically had to guess which it expected. I remember one which asked what vinegar was, and then gave as options both acetic acid and ethanoic acid.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:25 AM
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96: I plan on never playing anyone on Unfogged at Trivial Pursuit. I need some illusions.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:36 AM
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I used to think I was pretty good at trivia but I think I've only won a pub quiz once (or been on a winning team). I don't think you can call yourself good at something when 25,000 random drunks are better at it.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:40 AM
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I wouldn't say I'm the best at NumberWang, but I'm right up there.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:48 AM
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Some airline (I think Virgin) has a feature where you can play a trivia game against other people on the same plane. Couldn't even win that, and when you can't even beat random bored airline passengers at something you are not good at it.


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Pub quizzes are always a bit hit and miss. In my experience, particularly in 'local' pubs, they are often fixed in favour of regulars. Sometimes blatantly, but sometimes just in the sense that there might be a round or two with questions that only a regular attendee might get or expect.

I remember a piece in the Guardian years ago mentioning that the author's local had introduced a whole additional round of sport questions, with the proviso that the right answer to all of them was the same one that one guy who knew nothing about sport always gave, therefore making it impossible for any non-local to win.

He seemed to think this was clever, rather than a combination of Royston Vasey and mocking the local eccentric.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 6:54 AM
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I was really good at trivia until I was about 30, and all the newly invented stuff swamped my base of knowledge.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 7:18 AM
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110 is right.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 7:20 AM
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This can hit you in reverse. The last pub trivia I was involved in, during the celebrities round, about which I normally know nothing, they put up a picture of Grace Kelly. So I said, "Grace Kelly" with perfect confidence. And then the younger people on the team demurred and started this complicated discussion about who else it might be, with the result that we were timed out. I wanted to scream, "Look, I'm 60 years old, I know what fucking Grace Kelly looked like!"


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 7:36 AM
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The first few pub quizzes I tried in this city were kind of crap. So many rounds and so much question-repeating that the whole thing took like two hours - and the music rounds, oh, the music rounds.

A lot of the questions appeared to be taken from some "use this for free under our license" website where bonus questions were answerable only if you also provided them with your email address.

Since then I've found one at a theater that is much better.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 7:55 AM
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I was really good at trivia until I was about 30

Different paths to the same destination: I just forgot everything.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:05 AM
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I'm very good in some areas, and hopeless in others. No hope on music, geography, or celebrities.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:09 AM
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No hope on music, geography, or celebrities.

What's the capital city of the country Cesária Évora was born in?


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:28 AM
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Is it Oenfvyvn as one might assume? Probably not.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:30 AM
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Whoa, way wrong. I'm not even sure if I can get the capital from the country.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:30 AM
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So who do I (racistly) have her confused with I guess is my next question. Dunno. Like what I've heard of her work.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:31 AM
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I know what fucking Grace Kelly looked like!

Public sex tapes are apparently not the recent phenomenon that many young people assume.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:35 AM
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117: Praia, according to wikipedia.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:40 AM
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Evora from Cape Verdes, I think. I have some stuff in my playlist.

And that is all I know. Well, West of NW Africa.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:43 AM
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I am not best in the world at African capitals, that's for sure. I do decently at trivia overall, generally, though with some giant gaps even beyond sports.


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Different paths to the same destination: I just forgot everything.

Uggh, yes. Sometime in my early 30s my memory for random quotations and trivia got much worse.


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123: I was an ace at African capital cities back in the 7th grade. I wonder how many of them are still capitals today.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:57 AM
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Yeah it's pretty shameful how many of the ones I know cold are from a youthful dalliance with Carmen Sandiego.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 9:04 AM
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126: So that's where she was.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 9:07 AM
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127 was well played.


Posted by: RT | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 9:47 AM
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I bet it was.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 9:55 AM
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I suspect I was best at Welltris, the first sequel to Tetris designed by Alexey Pajitnov, largely because no one else has ever heard of it. I was damn good, though.
Nowadays I'd have to come up with some weighted combination of activities, ajay-style. Pool/BJJ/Tetris might get me close, but I'm probably underestimating the covariance of some of those activities (and I'm really out of practice at BJJ, and also was never that good). Maybe throw in tcsh or awk scripting. Something obscure and largely pointless.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:09 AM
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Welltris (and Wetrix) came up on a podcast I was listening to just last week.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:23 AM
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My mom spent years playing tetris on a second hand Windows 93 machine, until she was the only player on the leader board. That machine is still in their house, solely for tetris purposes. She steadfastly refuses to play on anything else because she can't export her scores.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:24 AM
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I'll be damned, though I thought that comment might prompt someone to falsify it. I'll have to listen to that later today. But seriously, I could play it indefinitely on the hardest setting. I hate to think how many of my most formative man-child-hours were spent on that game.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:31 AM
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132.last: TPP is supposed to take care of that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:33 AM
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132 Has your mom seen the Frogger episode of Seinfeld?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:35 AM
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No! But I remember it fondly.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:37 AM
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I have serious self-control issues regarding fast-twitch puzzle games, so if anyone knows any good ones they should absolutely not SHARE THAT INFORMATION.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure I played the Atari ST version of Welltris, but it might just have been a cover disk demo.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 10:59 AM
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Why are you trying to take this from me, Ginger?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:06 AM
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Presumably Welltris was Ginger's own secret pride and joy, so precious to him that he wasn't going to mention it even on this thread; until you, Eggplant, in your vast carelessness, shattered that fragile refuge.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:24 AM
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There was this game that I used to play in the long hall of my childhood home with a small ball. I'm pretty sure I was the best ever at that game.


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I'm pretty sure I was the best ever at that game.

No way! I was better! I'm the best!


Posted by: Opinionated Donald Trump | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:43 AM
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142: I would have beaten you so badly, except my mom wouldn't let me invite you into our house!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:48 AM
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Belatedly, the van comment linked in 86 really is one of the best ever.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:53 AM
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137. Have you tried Zanorg's jeu chiant? The ios port is basically unsuccesful, but good in flash.


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I think I'm a pretty good arguer, but (a) IMO part of being good at it means knowing when an argument is unwinnable, and (b) good overall still puts me in the bottom half around here. I'm good at trivia about a dozen different geeky franchises, but not the best or an expert at any of them.

86, 144: Good job, pseudonymous van commenter. I'm curious about something else, though. Apparently apo had an "Ol' Reliable" and linked to linked to links of it, but the original comment is lost in the mist of changing formatting. Was it "Who wants to sex Mutombo?" If not, what?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 1:05 PM
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NMM to Phife. :(


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 1:19 PM
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I just remembered. For Eggplant: "Your Life Is Tetris. Stop Playing It Like Chess."


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 8:06 PM
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That's pretty much why I like Tetris; it's like life but I'm good at it.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-23-16 11:37 PM
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I think that's basically my mom's feeling too.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 7:41 AM
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My parents got weirdly obsessed with a Tetris ripoff on a hex grid, Hextris, when they got their first Mac in the early 90s.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 7:50 AM
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My dad was in a local Florida paper for playing Q*Bert for 10 hours - I think he got 5 million points (and then walked away leaving loads of lives on it). This would have been around 1984 I guess.

97 - my kids know about unfogged. They're not very interested, but I thought it was worth a try to piss off ogged!


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 10:15 AM
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asilon's dad is my hero.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 10:19 AM
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I can't wait until teenage rebellion (already well in progress, though they only turned 13 last month) leads to my daughters invading this place. Good thing cock jokes are a thing of the past.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 10:43 AM
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Don't worry, I'm sure the stuff they're seeing on the messaging app of the week would strip the paint off your car.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 10:45 AM
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Like everyone here, I have never lost a game of Trivial Pursuit (Genus Edition, of course). I have also won a game of Trivial Pursuit in one turn. (I'm not sure it was the first turn but I got all the wedges in a single turn at or near the beginning.)


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 10:46 AM
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Not to be confused with the much easier Genius Edition.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 03-24-16 8:05 PM
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I played a lot of Welltris. I don't remember how good I was. All those games, I figure there's some Asian kid somewhere who would destroy me. Racist?


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