Re: NYC Meetup!

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Awl! I will not be there, of course, but I hope it's great fun.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 5:57 AM
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1: Too busy dating a lifeguard? Gotcha.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 6:13 AM
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2: No, and for so many reasons not going to meddle in the relationship of the nice lesbian couple who are going to be running swim lessons for the girls soon and I hope getting Nia onto their swim team. The train to NYC is 19 hours and the drive would be 10, which hasn't kept the girls from pushing for it to be our next trip.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 6:18 AM
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Not to jump on Awl's thread, but I'll be in NY the week after. 8th to 13th.

Probably busy most days, but might be free on one of the evenings.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 6:46 AM
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The train to NYC is 19 hours and the drive would be 10

I boggled for a bit at this and then remembered what the trains are like. When I took the train from NY to DC I kept having to suppress an instinctive desire to get out and push.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 6:52 AM
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Oh, and I'm in Ithaca end of next week. If anyone is Cornell or Cornell-adjacent.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 6:52 AM
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5: Cincy to DC was 15 hours versus 8 by car, so you did the easy bit.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:34 AM
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I was going to say, I thought DC to NY (and then on up to Boston) was by far the fastest bit of rail travel in the U.S.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:37 AM
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Awl, anyone else

ITYM "Awl, y'all"


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:40 AM
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If you think of the most common trips people take in America, like Pittsburgh to Lincoln, you get a good idea of how slow the trains are. It would take probably 17 hours or so to drive, but the train takes 24 hours. And if you want to get a bed for the leg of the trip that is mostly overnight, it costs more to take the train one way than to fly round trip.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:45 AM
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Pittsburgh to NYC seems better. $80 and 10 hours.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:48 AM
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I guess ajay is used to EU and UK trains that are 100mph+. UK trains only go up to about 120-140mph in regular service (and 125 is the usual max) but obviously French trains go faster.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:50 AM
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Of course, then you have to get from Penn Station to Fresh Salt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:50 AM
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Ohio trains don't take passengers.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:52 AM
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They do so. Just not in Columbus.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:53 AM
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15: Yeah, I'm just bitter. Thanks to our moderate governor!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:55 AM
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I think the train situation predates him. Or did the guy before start one and have it stopped after a while?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 7:59 AM
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8: I believe it is. EVEN SO.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:00 AM
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True story. The last standard gauge train ride I took was pulled by an engine in a Thomas costume. It was in Ohio.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:02 AM
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UK trains only go up to about 120-140mph in regular service (and 125 is the usual max) but obviously French trains go faster.

Because there's more room?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:03 AM
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20: partly, yes! It turns out it's a lot easier to build long straight railways if you don't have quite so many people, houses etc in the way. There are a lot of other factors too.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:11 AM
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Protip from Selah, Mobes, you can just decide which trains (regular or subway) are which fucking Sodor engines and then talk to them and insist on giving them goodbye hugs and then shriek piteously "Don't gooooooooo, [Emily/Percy/Gordon/Thomas]! Don't leave me!" as they chug away.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:20 AM
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17: Ohio got stimulus money to start train service, and then Kasich was elected and he refused the money.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:21 AM
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Oh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:25 AM
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23: And Grrrrrrrr to that!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:26 AM
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22: I may not have that level of imagination anymore. Also, hugging a train sounds like a way to get a shirt dirty.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:26 AM
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4: Name the evening -- I'm all in favor of spending more time at FS. (Or, of course, in one of the many other fine drinking establishments in NYC.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:32 AM
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No NYC primary thread? Are we just resigned to the inevitable "abandon all hope..." outcome represented by the front-runners of both parties?*

*Not a "not a dime's worth of difference" point which is clearly false, just a, well fuck it...


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:38 PM
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NYC s/b NY. I guess.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:38 PM
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Moby mentioned it briefly in the great tragedy thread (perhaps appropriately). I'll just observe that I'm totally unsurprised by Trump's massive win, which will inevitably shift the media narrative back to "maybe Trump can win this thing after all" from "Trump is probably finished; what now?" even though it's been entirely predictable for weeks or even months.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 8:52 PM
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Maybe the N.Y. contingent has drunk themselves into a numb stupor?

Was his win huge? I haven't checked yet (except to see on that excellent NYTimes map that my old neighborhood in Astoria went for Bernie in a big way )


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:09 PM
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I'm not sick of twitter, but I'm so sick of election twitter, especially supporters of the other Democratic candidate are all racists because some are racists twitter.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:11 PM
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Was his win huge?

With the GOP's 50 percent winner-take-all trigger, yes, it was huge. NYTimes is projecting he'll get 90 of 95 delegates.

(Astoria is my old neighborhood, too).


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:15 PM
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Was his win huge?

Looks like he got 60% statewide and won almost every congressional district with a majority, giving him an overwhelming majority of delgates (90 or so out of 95 total).


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:15 PM
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Dammit, Jane.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:16 PM
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Sorry, teo!


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:17 PM
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It's okay. At least I have another hour or so of daylight to console me (even though it's actually overcast right now).


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:18 PM
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Trump appears to have won every county in the state except for Manhattan, which went for Kasich.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:29 PM
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Manhattan is the Ohio of the five boroughs. Very high in the middle.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:30 PM
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Within NYC, Ted Cruz appears to have only done well in Borough Park and Far Rockaway. I'll leave it to the New Yorkers to interpret that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:30 PM
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Cruz also appears to have come in third in every upstate county, all of which were won by Trump.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:33 PM
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What about near Rockaway? Are there divides between Rockaway on the A and Rockaway on the shuttle that connects to the A?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:34 PM
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The nearer parts of the Rockaways seem to be Trump country. I don't know from subway lines.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-19-16 9:36 PM
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22 is terrific.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-20-16 2:36 AM
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Amtrak from NY to DC is...OK. Too much lateral acceleration for my taste. It isn't very fast. But political support for faster service is not there.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 04-20-16 3:01 AM
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Ooh, I will be in town for two months from April 29th and would love to go to a meetup at some point.


Posted by: dagger aleph | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 8:06 AM
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dagger aleph!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 8:07 AM
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Thorn!


Posted by: dagger aleph | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 9:39 AM
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† ℵ!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 10:50 AM
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Showoff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 10:51 AM
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But so this gives us some scheduling constraints -- Awl's around from the 27th on, but you're here starting the 29th. That Friday 4/29? Monday 5/2?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 10:54 AM
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50: Have you met me?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 10:54 AM
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Not technically, no.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 10:54 AM
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Too bad I'm already committed to go to Nebraska on the weekend of the 29th.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 11:13 AM
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But so this gives us some scheduling constraints

You could also have TWO meetups!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 12:09 PM
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Or a WebEx.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-16 12:10 PM
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So let's say 4/29? Anyone have a strong preference for another day?


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-24-16 5:28 AM
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Belatedly, since this thread is active again:

The train to NYC is 19 hours and the drive would be 10

I boggled for a bit at this and then remembered what the trains are like. When I took the train from NY to DC I kept having to suppress an instinctive desire to get out and push.

The other complicating factor is that once you get out of the Northeast Corridor, Amtrak often doesn't own the tracks. So they don't always have right of way, and if they get delayed a little bit for other reasons, they can end up having to wait even longer for freight trains and the like.

It's not surprising when I'm waiting in Philadelphia to see on the board that trains coming from Miami or Savannah are 4 or 6 hours delayed.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-24-16 7:48 AM
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I thought I remembered having written 58 before. It turns out I talked about it in 2007 and 2010. At least I am consistent.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-24-16 7:55 AM
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JM and I should be able to do the 29th.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 04-25-16 2:55 PM
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I'm in. †?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-25-16 3:07 PM
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Take pity on my shameful attempt at a self-bump. tomorrow at Fresh Salt? What time?


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 8:52 AM
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7:30.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 8:53 AM
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I feel I should clarify that 63 is not binding on people who will actually be there.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 8:58 AM
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Yea, verily, I am a stranger in a strange land, with very little internet and an inability to tell Moby's humor from his straight sentences.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 9:14 AM
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Sure enough, my internet dribbled out while writing that and I missed your clarification.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 9:16 AM
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6:30! I'll be there.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 7:53 PM
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I might be. I have a wretched cold that I don't want to share.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-28-16 8:44 PM
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Nothing is better for a cold than a few drinks.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 5:18 AM
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Bad news, everyone! FS is closed for a private event. I'm waiting here for the first local (well, for LB) to show up and suggest some other place nearby.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:34 PM
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We are here. Where are you?


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:42 PM
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As the first local, I have declared a relocation to Les Halles -- John St east of Broadway.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:42 PM
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I think you're the third local.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:45 PM
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On our way.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:45 PM
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Ignored the sign, walked in, and was baffled.

There in a few.


Posted by: mike d | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 3:57 PM
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Meetup has taken place, and disbanded.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 6:44 PM
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...Or has it?


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 6:50 PM
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ISTM that the rule should be that if there is no live-blogging, there should be knife-fighting interesting pix in the pool.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 6:59 PM
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I endorse 78.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 8:25 PM
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If this is your first meetup, you have to fight.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-29-16 8:28 PM
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Awl's been before. I met him at a NYC meetup (maybe not FS though IIRC). But pics in the pool would be great or at least a list of attendees. ( Also: mike d!)


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04-30-16 1:16 AM
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