Re: Drunken Ride-sharing

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I've ridden Uber drunk. So, you're welcome.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:04 PM
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Not like drunk-drunk, but definitely drunk enough that I shouldn't be driving. Also, I think it was Lyft, not Uber.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:04 PM
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2: Would you have driven if there was no Lyft or Uber?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:09 PM
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I didn't have an car with me. I was going to take the bus but forgot how late it was.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:10 PM
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I would completely believe that what Uber is substituting for is not individual driving. In places where Uber exists, there's usually some kind of taxi service already, and often public transit as well; you're buying the particular service and convenience they offer, not access to someone-else-drives transportation in the first place.

The article mentions this, as well as the potential difference between the large metro areas and the more suburban areas that have both less taxi service and less infiltration by Uber and friends.

(I like Uber over taxis for getting back from places after I've been drinking because I live in fear of underpaying or being a total jerk by undertipping, and don't trust myself to do tip math correctly when drunk).


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:15 PM
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It really is remarkable how little alcohol it takes before I have trouble with math like that. After like five beers, I always feel like I need to use the calculator on my phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:19 PM
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... "some girl named Kriston" - Really? Some girl?


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:26 PM
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... "some girl named Kriston" - Really? Some girl?


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:26 PM
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... "some girl named Kriston" - Really? Some girl?


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:26 PM
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Didn't mean to multi-post. Didn't get any indication that my input was accepted and hit the button several times.


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:28 PM
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2: It was Lyft. I tell myself I prefer them because they have slightly less creepy labor practices. On the other hand, our driver was very scary and/or trolling me.

The actual study is behind a paywall; I'd be interested if there was any effect in Pittsburgh as our taxis were shit pre-Uber. They might not longer be shit since the major taxi company rebranded as a ride-sharing company.

I've (over a decade) driven home from the South Side (neighborhood with lots of bars, not particularly transit-convenient from home) once or twice when my state was debatable. Not proud of this in the slightest, but there isn't even the temptation to do that now. I've also driven to friends' houses in the suburbs and been confident that if everyone gets blitzed we could just leave our car there, Uber home, and pick it up when we're sober.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:29 PM
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The author is an old friend of the blog, and has been getting shit about his name for a decade or so around here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:30 PM
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7, 8, 9: not really.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:30 PM
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7: heebie is trolling hard today.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:30 PM
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7-9 reads like a chorus of a song.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:30 PM
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"Some girl named Kriston...on a midnight train to Georgia"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:31 PM
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14: your comments are so trampoline.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:32 PM
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Kriston Homa.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:32 PM
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"Some girl" like "some pig." She's good at smashing arms.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:33 PM
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"Girl" is sexist. Some WOMAN name Kriston, heebie.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:34 PM
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17: Totally tiggerific!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:35 PM
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I wonder why Vox hasn't snapped her up.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:39 PM
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11.2: It doesn't break it down by city in the paper. I can send it if you'd like.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:44 PM
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23: Nah, that's okay. If it's not locally-usable evidence one way or another I'm just going to continue in my unfounded belief that ride-sharing apps have helped here.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:49 PM
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Maybe there is an adoption curve and so it will just take some time for the effect to show up in the statistics. E.g., I drove a rental car drunk and wrecked it a few weeks ago and afterwards I wished I had instead used Lyft. Next time I will.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:49 PM
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Maybe you should just take the extra insurance next time.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:50 PM
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Maybe you should have driven into a trampoline tree instead of the regular kind.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:51 PM
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(I was in a rental car because a drunk guy had crashed into my car a few days earlier.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:53 PM
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It's the circle of life.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:54 PM
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If only he'd taken uber.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:55 PM
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If you live in a suburb, you should mention this in that urban vs. suburban thread from last week.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:55 PM
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Kriston Capps is a man!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:56 PM
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I guess we've stopped doing spoiler alerts.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 1:58 PM
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I don't actually get the joke. Is "Kriston" ever a woman's name?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:03 PM
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Nah, it just sort of resembles Christopher, which is funny.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:06 PM
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For most Americans most of the time, it's pronounced identically to "Kristen."


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:06 PM
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Probably there are at least a few women named Kriston out there? I mean, I've never seen it as a man's or a woman's name other than for Mr. Capps, but it's a very plausible variant of Kristin/Christine, usually a woman's name.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:07 PM
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Regardless, the whole thing is sexist.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:09 PM
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A google image search for Kriston suggests that our man is probably the internet famousest of his name, but it's him and a bunch of women.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:09 PM
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All in the same picture.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:10 PM
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34: It's a very stupid joke, but the meanness makes up for the stupidity.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:10 PM
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There is no way Urple was confused on that point. You're all kristons now.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:11 PM
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Sigh. *Puts on kriston cap, goes and sits in corner.*


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:14 PM
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My google image searches results are the opposite of LB's. There are a few women whom I guess have nontraditionally spelled names, but otherwise it's mostly men. I think of it as a man's name (with that spelling).


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:16 PM
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Who not whom. That was a typo, not a grammatical error.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:16 PM
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I think of "whom" as being a woman, but "who" as being a man.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:19 PM
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Also 43 made me laugh.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:19 PM
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45: In an existential clause where "there" is a dummy syntactic subject and the noun phrase serving as the topic is on the face of it the object, do the rules that allow "whom" to be used not apply? I would thought it'd still be sufficiently accusative that it'd be valid (and in earlier times and possibly formal writing preferred).


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:29 PM
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25: I dunno, I'd expect a visible effect to show up pretty quickly. I mean, at least half of the use case is precisely when you'd expect drunk driving to be an option, right? Surge pricing applies at closing time, not 9:30 Sunday morning.

Either way, IIRC Uber & Lyft explicitly claimed that this was a reason to let them operate illegally, so I'm unimpressed by the idea that they just need to do so for a really long time for it to show up as an effect.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:37 PM
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Maybe that's a predicative complement, not an object? I dunno, I don't write well.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:37 PM
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There is another man-Kriston IN DC even! I don't think they know each other, although I know them both and can verify that they are not the same person.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:44 PM
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49: I was mostly just looking for an excuse to tell my sad story, which did result in real life regret at not having used Lyft.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:44 PM
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I've never known a women named "Kriston." I've known several men.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:45 PM
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Really? Locally? I know none, either gender.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:53 PM
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Admittedly, I'm counting the Kriston in question as one of the "several".


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 2:56 PM
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51: Nuh-uh. Do you mean Christon (who goes by Christylez Bacon)?


Posted by: armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:18 PM
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Did you know that you should have written that article last week to save urple from himself?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:20 PM
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57: yeah. The study came out while I was at the RNC, so I failed to notice it before. I think urple should blame Donald Trump.


Posted by: armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:23 PM
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Journalists never accept responsibility for problems they cause. Sad.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:27 PM
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No! A deaf one. Scroll down on this page for a headshot/blurb.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:37 PM
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Nyle's got some intense cheekbones.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 3:47 PM
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I think my cheek bones ate great. The problem is the fat and skin on top of them.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 5:29 PM
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"Ate" is a typo.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 5:30 PM
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The fat and skin don't age as great as the cheek bones?


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 7:36 PM
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I'm surprised that college football doesn't skew even more right (not surprised that it's as popular as it is). Your college football fan is basically the core classic business Republican party member -- relatively prosperous, from a decent but not elitist college maybe in the south or midwest/elite member of a rural-ish community, no graduate degree to turn one liberal, no compunction at watching modern day slaves dance for you, etc etc. And that's true even where that stuff doesn't quite hold -- if you held the Presidential election among the members of the USC/UCLA audience, in one of the most Democratic electorates in the country, I'm pretty sure any mainstream Republican would win. Maybe not Trump.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 7:49 PM
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Whatever, losers. The thread I comment in is always the right thread.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 7:50 PM
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64: Bone tends to be much more durable than soft tissues, yes.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 7:54 PM
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I've never known a women named "Kriston." I've known several men.

Why do all these strange men keep calling themselves "Kriston"?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-10-16 8:24 PM
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I think my cheek bones ate great. The problem is the fat and skin on top of them

Also, his left shoulder blade is a vision of loveliness.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 1:28 AM
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I just got pulled over and had to do a field sobriety test. I had 4 cops watching me recite the alphabet backwards. I wasn't drunk or high but apparently anybody up really early in the morning and driving without headlights is assumed to be on something.


Posted by: bjk | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 2:41 AM
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70: I could not pass that test. I need to sing the alphabet song every time I have to alphabetize. I'd be constantly having to go to the beginning, recite it forward to the letter I'm on, and maybe get two or three letters before having to start again.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:24 AM
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It's not an easy test. It's designed to make you fail. He said I failed the one leg stand test because my foot was two inches and not six inches off the ground.


Posted by: bjk | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:31 AM
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72 "I thought you said 6 centimeters, officer"


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:38 AM
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72: "But my boyfriend says that's six inches!"


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:46 AM
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I may have asked this before, but: is it that American coppers haven't heard of breathalysers, or that the machines are too complicated for them to use, or is there some obscure legal reason why they're still doing this kind of ludicrous parlour-game stuff rather than actually using a proven workable test?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:48 AM
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He didn't think I was drunk, he thought I was on drugs for some reason (lack of sleep, probably). The test was just to give him probable cause to inspect my car? But this is not the first time I've been stopped for suspicion of drugs. I had three DEA agents pull their guns on me because I was walking around Nats stadium. Apparently "white guy walking around Nats stadium" equals drug buyer. They came up in a tinted windows Camry and offered me something, it was terrifying. Then they all leaped out of the car and had their guns pointed at me. It was at that point that I decided not to buy a house near Nats stadium.


Posted by: bjk | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 3:57 AM
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He said I failed the one leg stand test because my foot was two inches and not six inches off the ground.

"I trained Russian style, madame"


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 4:07 AM
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It's killing me that I can't quite place 77.2.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 5:04 AM
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A 16 year old was killed recently here drunk driving. He took an Uber home from a party, then left his house drunk in his parents car.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 5:29 AM
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Terribly sad, but definitely a Darwin award.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 5:34 AM
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I don't understand. Any man's name is a potential woman's name.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 7:01 AM
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Your college football fan is basically the core classic business Republican party member

What? No. Where are you getting this?

if you held the Presidential election among the members of the USC/UCLA audience, in one of the most Democratic electorates in the country, I'm pretty sure any mainstream Republican would win.

This is just simply untrue. Only 15 percent of UCLA students polled in 2012 said they would vote for Romney. The campus is ridiculously more liberal than the general electorate. Even if college football fans are more to the right than the average college student (which I do not allow without qualification), at liberal schools the football fans would still be pulling the lever for Clinton.


Posted by: armsmasher | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 7:10 AM
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I have no idea about UCLA fans political views, but the Nebraska fans who watched the Husker win in the (looks at Wikipedia because who ever heard of it) Foster Farms Bowl were very predominately Republicans. In Nebraska, UNL draws wealthier families and the having season tickets to the games is a good sign of being connected to the local establishment.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 7:21 AM
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But, looking at polls of students doesn't really answer the question about the audience of a college football game. The students are going to make up a small percentage of the audience. I'm pretty sure the Nebraska student body is majority Democratic, but the average fan is a generation older.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 7:28 AM
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Right, I meant the total attendees including alumni. I'm sure if you polled the UCLA student section in 2012 they would have gone for Obama.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 8:31 AM
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Football tickets are super expensive if you are not a current student, so that is going to change the demo too.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 9:02 AM
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I think my cheek bones ate great

Yeah, but the poor guy they ate is really sticking to those bones.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 8:05 PM
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I think my cheek bones ate great

Yeah, but the poor guy they ate is really sticking to those bones.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 8:05 PM
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OFFS. I'm pretty sure I'm not double clicking, here.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 8:07 PM
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I had three DEA agents pull their guns on me because I was walking around Nats stadium

That's a damned lie and you know it -- I ain't had nothin' to do with that stadium and I can prove it. I'm a legitimate businessman!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-11-16 8:16 PM
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