I have no idea. From what I've seen, the protests about Israeli actions against Palestinians are very small compared to the BLM or Fight for $15 marches. Also, I don't think there has been one big enough for me to notice since Obama was elected.
Actually talking to young people is usually stressful, so I don't try very often.
Wow, that "article" is just straight pro-Israel propaganda. Which makes sense, given that its backing organization's mission is to work "tirelessly to help protect Israel by improving Israel's image". It runs together instances of people pushing back against "anti-semitism" being used as an argument-ender to deflect blame from some of Israel's more evil policies, and instances of genuine anti-semitism, all without trying to deal with the fact that Israel has evil policies, so it's going to be a target for opprobrium from social justice groups.
Anti-semitism has really increased at my kid's high school since Trump started his run.
Not just the usual Holocaust jokes which the local Xtians think are so hilarious, or the usual comments about "jewing" people down at flea markets, but also her fellow students talking loudly about how Jews are so greedy and Jews are so arrogant and Jews control the media and various crap I honestly hoped we had seen the end of.
When my kid confronts them -- because she always does confront them -- none of them apologize. The most she gets is a sneering, "We were just JOKING."
I don't suppose it would help to point out that, empirically, Australians control the media.
Anti-semitism has really increased at my kid's high school since Trump started his run.
I guess Trump is an equal opportunity hatemonger: legitimizing anti-Muslim sentiment while also emboldening the anti-Semites (who are also anti-Muslim, of course) of the alt-right.
3 seems right. There's definitely some sketchy stuff in activist circles and in college it was hard to find a space that let me be supportive of Palestine while still acknowledging a deep emotional connection to Israel (I'm on your side you guys but also I'm like, literally FROM there). It's also hard for a lot of non-Jews to get that the ethnic and religious aspects of Judaism are rather de-linked and a lot of conversations run aground on that. (In Israel a lot of convos ran aground because folks couldn't grasp that Methodism wasn't heritable from my mother, so that's a thing too.) But the people who were not subtle thinkers on that stuff were just not the same people carving swastikas into tables or for that matter saying "Jews control the media" and I'd be quite surprised if that had changed.
Aheemsub, for the first twenty two or so years of my life I thought American anti-semitism had died with Lindbergh, or at least his generation, crazy fringe types like LaRoucheites excepted. It was not within my experience that a person, possessed of their faculties, would express animus towards or mockery of Jews as a people. Such a thing would be comical, like wearing an onion on one's belt. That was before I started reading comments sections.
What I'm genuinely surprised by is the survival/revival of straightforward old-fashioned right-wing antisemitism in the US (as in, e.g. alt-righters and their 'Jewish cowbell' symbol)*. It's like some unkillable herpes virus. What nerves was it hiding before the internet?
*As opposed to the sort of left-winger who goes overboard with anti-Zionism.
Not just the usual Holocaust jokes which the local Xtians think are so hilarious, or the usual comments about "jewing" people down at flea markets, but also her fellow students talking loudly about how Jews are so greedy and Jews are so arrogant and Jews control the media and various crap I honestly hoped we had seen the end of.
These being the same students who hate all Muslims, so not exactly BDS activists.
9: The Left Behind novels, for one. Jews, international bankers, the U.N., and Jewish international bankers at the U.N.!
7- Methodists are Lamarckian, Jews are Mendelian.
I could be wrong, but my sense is that anti-semitism has for real gotten more common. I attribute that to the way the mainstream has become discredited.
I think people are more and more rejecting the mainstream, in part because of how wrong it was on the Iraq war, and in part due to how ham handed and incompetent the propaganda has gotten recently.
To clarify; I'd expect all sorts of fringe views to flourish under these conditions.
Where I grew up Jews were a minority but a fairly significant number, especially overrepresented in the more advanced HS classes. Likewise where we ended up living. Where we are now, though, I doubt anyone knows we're Jewish, and I have yet to see any signs of others- no synagogue here as far as I know, google suggests the closest is 100 miles away. The whole 1492 thing is still affecting the population I imagine- nobody would have expected that, I'm sure.
Sometimes, we need to remind ourselves that while it can sometimes seems like Jews are the most likely to park like assholes, in terms of the numbers who live in the area, they're probably less likely to park than an asshole than lots of other ethnic and religious groups. I'd bet if you adjusted for lower rates of car ownership, people born in China would rate far worse than Jews.
17: i would never have dreamed that Moby would revive the "park like a assholes" libel.
17: i would never have dreamed that Moby would revive the "park like assholes" libel.
There's antisemitism, and then there's anti-those-particular-Semites-right-over-there-ism.
17: Jews park like assholes?! I thought that was AA people. When I lived in PG county it seemed like parking outside the lines was virtually mandatory. I can never keep my racial stereotypes straight.
I thought the old joke was about poor parking due to not being able to tell what 6 inches is, because of another antisemitic stereotype.
21: If you count just stopping in the lane of traffic as "parking", then sure.
The truth is that everyone's terrible at parking, so "bad at parking" stereotypes just come to attach to the predominant group in any area.
The truth is that everyone's terrible at parking
Correction: everyone else is terrible at parking.
24: the most prominent _marked_ group.
I'm really horrible at parking from a technical point of view. I can't really parallel park. But I'm very good about not parking so as to block others.
I thought the old joke was about poor parking due to not being able to tell what 6 inches is, because of another antisemitic stereotype.
This joke always drives me crazy. That should make the women better at parallel parking!!
Though the subject matter is obvious, I don't get the joke because I don't know the stereotype.
I can't bring myself to google [jewish stereotypes] so I searched for ["six inches" stereotypes] and didn't get anything useful.
(I'm on your side you guys but also I'm like, literally FROM there).
Your folks are Israeli?
30: why are Jewish women bad at parallel parking?
34 I lived there until I was 4 (born in NYC but I was like a week old when I moved). We were there for my dad's job, not aliyah. My dad's mom's family is there, but I haven't been for years. A gazelle ate my first Barbie doll. My mom didn't want "Christian" on her ID for her ethnic group or whatever so they put Oklahoma. I remember no Hebrew but if you give me something to say my accent is impeccable.
36 last is not true, glidah is ice cream, susim is horses.
36 So Okla Homa Bobo's ethnic group must have been Oklahoma too.
36 So Okla Homa Bobo's ethnic group must have been Oklahoma too.
29: Never mind that at least in America, higher than average urbanization rates among Jewish people means they're probably on average better parallel parkers than most.
I have been making a probably anti-Semitic assumption that accident rates go up in my neighborhood during the hour before sunset on Friday. Never considered the parking libel Moby brought up, but I agree that people who learn to drive/park in radically different driving cultures are more likely to behave in a way that is contextually asinine. Most notably, of course--and I know we all think it so I'm just going to say it--are Ohioans.
Familiarity and driving slowly in the center lane breed contempt.
Michiganders running a false flag operation, I think you mean. I heard about it on Alex Jones.
Michigan is the functional equivalent of the Tzarist Secret Police.
True story: Woody Hayes once punched an opposing defensive lineman for taking his parking spot. He ordered his players to throw an interception and force the guy out of bounds in order to make this happen.
Now that's the kind of spite and resentment that truly made America great. Trump can't hope to match it.
An uncannily almost-accurate prediction from JP Stormcrow in January 2015:
I predict in 2015 that a totally unhinged person will be a semi-serious candidate to be third-in-line for the presidency.
http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_14307.html#1771499
A bit off on the "semi" part, no?
The worst parallel parker on our street in Muslim.
The whole 1492 thing is still affecting the population I imagine- Do you mean the theory about Columbus being a Catalan Jewish converso hiding out in Genoa from the inquisition? Otherwise, I don't get it.
Here in NW Arkansas we all know that people from Eastern Oklahoma are the worst at both driving and parking.
It's because they ain't have any real roads over there. Drive over here to where we have actual paved surfaces, freaks them the shit out, y'all. They just can't feature it.
We used to mock kids from smaller town by asking them if they understood the stoplight. We had one, they had none.
None of us had any Jews that I ever heard of.
A rabbi came from Omaha to talk to our school, I think because the principal (and the rabbi) wanted to fight the "Aren't Jews mythical, like leprechauns?" factor.
Is that a real factor in America? Colour me unsurprised if it is. (I know a man- a practicing physician- who tried to tell his girlfriend's children that Native Americans no longer exist.)
Anybody who lives in the southeast knows from where the worst drivers hail. "Drive right. This ain't Florida." Used to be a commonly seen bumper sticker, especially toward the mountainous part of the state.
57: My town was very small and has had almost no in-migration (except from similar, nearby towns) since the Dust Bowl. Very recently, a single plant has resulted in maybe a couple dozen families of Hispanic origin moving in, but other than that, it's pretty much all descendants of people looking for farms from 1890 through 1920.
I will say that Florida, at least my parts, is one of those places where the first few seconds of a green light are semi-reserved for crazy people running the last red light. I was surprised to find out this was not the case everywhere when I went to college.
Also, these Texas parts are not as egregious as Delegar's or Moby's stories on leprechaun Jews. Jews are a thing - nerdy people who cluster around the university, maybe, but a thing.
You guys probably have more than three stoplights (which is how many my town has now).
62-63, read carelessly, create the impression that the Jews are clustering around the university because that's where the stoplights are and they like stoplights. Or are just drawn to them, like moths.
Because that's where they hang the eruv.
I thought it was mostly utility poles.
It only costs $36 to become an Eruv-sponsor, so I can't be that big of deal. Nothing like Trump's wall.
This is how stereotypes get started. And, in fact, it's not without a kernel of truth: Leslie Hore-Belisha was the Minister of Transport who introduced the driving test, the urban speed limit and the pedestrian crossing, still known as the Belisha beacon. He was also Jewish. I think it's safe to assume that he liked stoplights.
a single plant has resulted in maybe a couple dozen families of Hispanic origin
Now there's a racial stereotype I had not heard. Was it self-pollinating or did they graft it?
Grafting Hispanics is no longer acceptable in polite society.
My wife (who, for the record, is from the Lodi region) used to complain a lot about drivers around here, mainly Virginia drivers, but she didn't like either Maryland or DC drivers either. Just garden-variety speeding, tailgating, merging too abruptly, not signaling, things like that, dangerous stuff but nothing that stands out to me as a regional thing so much as general recklessness or carelessness. Then one day we were on the interstate and got passed on the shoulder. The driver had California plates. That shut Cassandane up for a while.
Most people in our neighborhood fit most of their respective stereotypes - poor black, hipster gentrifier, whatever - but everyone around here is good at parking, or getting good at it, due to the new streetcar. If you try to parallel park on a certain street and stick out into the traffic lane even a bit, they won't screw around about towing you.
Contact with Jewish people: growing up in rural Vermont, I had one high school classmate who I'm 90 percent sure is partially Jewish, but I don't think she ever was observant. In college (in a city in upstate NY, FWIW) I had a fair number of Jewish friends and friends of friends. I currently have one friend I'm pretty sure is ethnically Jewish, but, again, not observant (I've never pried but never or very rarely see him in a yarmulke).
73.3: Only seriously observant Jews will wear a yarmulke outside of a synagogue. A more common form of semi-observance is avoiding pork and shellfish.
Very non-observant Jews wear socks that don't match.
Maybe this guy wears a yarmulke all the time and it's Cyrus who isn't observant.
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Computer security bleg.
Something called mindspark is showing up as malware on my office computer (PUP.optional.mindspark). Apparently windows defender doesn't consider it malware but malwarebytes does. A bit of research indicates that it's adware that comes bundled with some free programs, and is potentially a problem.
Malwarebytes can't get rid of it. One option is to have IT reimage my computer, but that's going to be a huge pain. I've found a bunch of "Step-by-step guide to removing mindspark" pages. However, they all want you to download various free antimalware programs, and I'm aware that those often come themselves bundled with malware.
Is there a reliable way to get rid of this, or do I have to go ahead and get the machine reimaged?
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Get it reimaged not for technical reasons but so if something does go wrong in the future you can blame IT.
It seems the new anti-Semitism is a different thing. It is part of alt_right which comes from less a place of fear of other and more of a bullying/trolling/. Sex, drugs, and rock and roll (or rap, tattoo, and queerness) don't shock or offend anymore, so to rebel racism is useful.
79 is right. Traditionally over the last 30 years people in the western world who spend all day searching for anti-semitism, your Abe Foxmans, have been casting their gimlet eye on left-wing Palestinian-huggers and of course at actual Muslims themselves. Now suddenly right-wing fascist youth movements are back (this time with irony!) and the Foxmans keep getting confused.
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I was once at a workshop on environmental racism, and one of the attendees (a white woman) started sobbing heavily during the discussion period, and then referred to Native Americans as "an endangered species people" who were "going extinct." Let's just say there was a pretty long awkward pause.
At my high school most of the popular kids were Jewish, and belonging to Jewish youth groups was a way to get popular. The school was maybe 30% Jewish, but in the IB program the figure was probably closer to 50-60%. My classes were Jewish enough that we de facto got all Jewish holidays off since about 50-90% of the students and very likely the teacher were absent. I remember one Yom Kippur only 5 of the 50 kids in my calculus class showed up, and the teacher began class with, "so, goyim." There was also a minor kerffufle because the first x-country meet would sometimes fall on Yom Kippur, and enough of the team was Jewish it made a major dent in our participation.
I also agree with 79 and 80. Too much focus on Islamofascism and not enough on actual fascism.
Talking about antisemitism gets to be such a morass because there has been such bad faith in using that label to criticize opponents of Israel that it ironically has become harder to talk about the rise of actual antisemitism, or to separate out the people who are using the Palestinian cause to actually be antisemitic from people who are just pro-Palestine.
I keep thinking of that possibly apocryphal quote of Upton Sinclair's about fascism coming to the US wrapped in the flag and the cross, but given Donald Trump I feel like, nah, when fascism comes to the US it'll be with jackboots, the swastika, and straight up open white supremacy.
As a Christian, I find that reassuring.
82.last And Pepe the frog, apparently.
82.last And Pepe the frog, apparently.
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Oops yes, I meant Sinclair Lewis.
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That's the white supremacist frog, right?
Is there any frog that isn't white supremacist?
I guess this is the thread to note that someone painted a swastika in red paint on the hood of a car across the street. I admit I don't recognize the car as belonging to one of the neighbors. Do you call the police about something like this? It pisses me the fuck off, but I'm not sure what the next step is.
I assume the owner of the car will have called the police and that you would only call if you saw something they might find useful in the investigation.
I might leave a commiserating note under the windshield wiper, but I'm definitely turning into an auntie.
I grew up in south Florida with many Jewish classmates, though the first time I can remember noticing was in third grade, when the the mom of twin classmates came in to explain Jewish holidays. (When these same twins turned 13, I attended their joint b'nai mitzvah. I think I went to four or five services for friends before I realized that I could get away with skipping the service and just going to the party.)
Among my high school friends, I quickly learned that saying anything even vaguely supportive of Palestinians would be labeled anti-Semetism. On the flip side, I knew a number Jewish kids in the US who took trips to Poland and Israel that emphasized how horrible Polish people were. Florida passed a law that required all schools to teach about the Holocaust every year in every grade (as I remember it), and I felt torn between respecting the sheer horror of the Holocaust and wanting to point out that some of my own family members had died in Nazi concentration camps, and their suffering mattered, too.
Then I went to a college that had relatively large populations of Jewish students and Arab students. The second intifada happened during my freshman year, iirc, and the environment on campus felt really hostile--non-stop protests and counter protests. It was around this time that I first met Israeli peace activists, and my mind was blown when I realized that a wider range of permissible viewpoints on Israel/Palestine existed there than in the US.
A decade and a half later, I teach about world politics, and I go out of my way to avoid the topic in class. I'm quite literally terrified that I'll say something about Israel that a student interprets as anti-Semetic and I'll end up in the national news.
None of this is to deny that actual anti-Semetism is present on college campuses, and in some progressive college groups. It just makes me a little more skeptical of any individual charge until I hear the details.
What if instead of controversial things like Israeli actions in Palestine, you stick to something less heated. Like do Jews controls the weather or just influence it a bit.
At my high school, a good chunk of the teachers were former-hippie Marxist Jews, and a good chunk of the students were budding neocons. We would have the wildest fights about Israel everything, actually.
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My mother is a former civil rights lawyer who happens to be sitting near me, and I asked her about this. She said you can definitely report it to the police, and depending on who the car belongs to, there's a chance it could count as a hate crime.
I'm not saying you can't report it to the police. I'm making an argument from laziness the Kantian Categorical Imperative. If everybody who walked by a swastika graffitied onto some surface called the police, the police would spend too much time taking those reports. But if everybody who had a swastika graffitied on something they owned or were responsible for, the police would know about crimes more efficiently.
Think too hard about the Categorical Imperative and you'll start implementing your ethics on top of random algorithms.
The funny thing is that when I saw the car I assumed its owner wasn't home, because who drives to work? Driving is for when you come home. (We live very near the train station.) The swastika had been wiped off when my kid and I got back from the store. Lots of Muslim and Latin@ families in the buildings beside that curb; not a lot of white families on our block in general. Gauging the ratio of hate to lulz is always tricky, but this year and right after terrorist attacks...
It makes me so inappropriately belligerent. I swear I'm not one of these idiots roughing people up at Trump rallies. Maybe I'll put up one of the popular "NOT IN OUR TOWN" signs and add a second sign: "(and that means YOU, car-swastika-painting scum)".
Gauging the ratio of hate to lulz is always tricky, but this year and right after terrorist attacks...
Well, they're not mutually exclusive, as the Trump campaign and its supporters have amply demonstrated.
They mix well, but I think they are meaningfully distinct. (I basically agree with 79 too.)
Yeah, 79/80 et seq. are totally true and it's hugely depressing to see how all the major American Jewish organizations have spent so many years crying wolf by labeling any and all criticism of Israel as "antisemitism" that now that actual old-school scary antisemitism is resurfacing they aren't going to be able to draw any meaningful attention to it. Especially Foxman. This sort of thing is exactly what the ADL is for, and he totally pissed away any chance of doing anything about it.
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That happened to the National Review too. They have been calling everyone from Hillary Clinton to Bernie Sanders to Obama Hitler, and now when, to their tiny credit, they're pointing out that Trump is kind of fascist, it means absolutely nothing. They've overused Nazi as an insult to the point they've normalized the label.
Well, they've never represented an actual oppressed minority, as opposed to a majority terrified of losing its elite status, so I am not very sympathetic. But yes, it is a structurally similar situation.
First they came for the enablers of overt white nationalism and I said nothing, because fuck them.
80: the alt right seem to have been saying nasty things but that's about it. If you are worried about actual anti-Semitic attacks, as in Jewish people getting shot dead in kosher supermarkets, the alt right are probably not the ones to worry about. That still tends to be Muslim extremists.
I went to a majority-Jewish high school, which my wife thinks is the reason why I don't understand that the movie "Heathers" is basically a documentary.
They mix well, but I think they are meaningfully distinct
I'm not sure they're meaningfully distinct when you're talking about painting swastikas on people's cars.
the alt right seem to have been saying nasty things but that's about it.
Historically "that" has a nasty habit of not staying "about it" for long.
I think Jewish people in Britain may be very concentrated in London. When I was in my teens, half if not a majority of my friends were Jews, but since moving north I've only had one close friend I knew to be Jewish, and he moved from London within the last 10 years. Often enough racism is stronger in areas where you never meet a member of the objectified ethnicity, but that doesn't seem to be the case here- just dumb pro-Palestine lefties and occasionally Muslims.
London isn't a hugely comfortable place to be Jewish these days, as far as I can tell at second hand: most of my Jewish friends have expressed concern about anti-semitism (invariably from dumb pro-Palestine lefties and occasionally Muslims) and one actually left the country because she no longer felt safe here. For expression in concrete form, the levels of security around Jewish schools and synagogues, compared to those around their non-Jewish counterparts, are noticeably higher.
I had kind of inferred that from reading the papers. It's probably also the case that there are many more E.Europeans in London, and some of them may be old fashioned anti-Semites. I don't know what the answer is. Everybody could move to Sheffield where the racists are mainly exercised about Balkan Roma, but that isn't really a way forward.
It's probably also the case that there are many more E.Europeans in London, and some of them may be old fashioned anti-Semites
Jesus, chris, you might want to wind that back a bit.
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In the spirit of 77, a computer question:
Last week, my hard drive apparently got corrupted and died, gradually going from crashing a lot to failing to boot at all (diagnostics suggested bad HD). I have now installed an all-new HD plus new RAM (just because). I created a bootable thumb drive, it worked just like it should, I restored from backup... and it won't boot up. Gets halfway through and crashes, just like it did before.
The only two options I can think of are A. Restore from an older backup (week before last should do it), or B. Partition the new drive, install a clean OS for my startup, restore to the other partition, then move everything but my music library from the restored to the clean.
The problem with A is that it takes forever (5-6 hours) and may still bring in glitchiness (also, I'd lose at least some data). The problem with B is that my new and old HDs are 1 TB, and that I had used almost exactly half, so I'd have to partition that way, leaving me with an end state of something like Startup Partition of 500 GB, 300 used, Music Partition, 200 used (plus all the redundant cruft I'd be leery about/incompetent to delete).
Thoughts? It's a Mac, current OS.
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Not suggesting that E.Europeans are more likely to be anti-Semitic than anybody else, but that anti-Semitism in those countries, where it exists, is likely to be the old fashioned right wing kind:
Leave Western Europe, to head east or more recently south, and the picture alters. Here the threat to Jews is of a much more familiar variety. The far right, white and bellicose, has surfaced with a vengeance especially in those former communist nations where ultra-nationalism was once repressed. Witness the rise of Jobbik, a Hungarian neo-fascist party that is the country's third largest. One Jobbik M.P. recently called for all of Hungary's Jews to be registered on a list, as a threat to "national security." The resonance of a list of Jewish names in Hungary, where 500,000 Jews were rounded up and murdered during the Nazi period, hardly needs to be spelled out.- Jonathan Freedland
In Greece, the Golden Dawn party concentrates its fire on the Asian and African immigrants whom it blames for the country's economic woes. But like so many rightists of the old school, when it comes to Jews, Golden Dawn can't help themselves. According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, "Golden Dawn's leader, Nikolaos Michaloliakos, denies there were gas chambers or ovens at Nazi death camps and has a penchant for giving the Nazi salute." The party spokesman recently rose in Parliament to read out a passage from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
it's hugely depressing to see how all the major American Jewish organizations have spent so many years crying wolf by labeling any and all criticism of Israel as "antisemitism"
Any criticism of Israel seems to draw cries of antisemitism. Even if you preface it with "Israel can and should defend itself," it feels like an army swoops down to stifle any criticism with claims of antisemitism.
The Jewish community in Ireland has dwindled, I think largely from emigration (to the UK or to Israel), but presumably also from intermarrying. It's a loss of a rich strand in our culture.
There certainly was a lot of "straightforward" anti-semitism in Ireland back in the day which I suspect is not all gone. I don't think all or even most of the criticism of Israel and the support for Palestine is anti-semitic but no doubt some of it is.
Having grown up in philosemitic places, I've always been utterly baffled by antisemitism. I mean, I guess I don't really view them as an Other at all, so it would be hard for me to hate/fear them*, but even so: who feels hate and fear towards nebbishy dentists? Maybe if I'd grown up among neocons I could understand it, but of course antisemites don't necessarily have a problem with those Jews.
*come to think of it, if I were at an event where teams were being split up, and one team was non-Orthodox American Jews, and the other team was almost literally any other ethno-cultural group, I'd want to be on Team Jew. I'd probably feel more comfortable among Orthodoxers than most other groups as well, but it wouldn't be as obvious a choice.
113- In the spirit of being the only one who answers the computer questions- I had that happen with a Mac but not quite the same situation. I had a new laptop with a newer OS and I wanted to restore from a Time Machine backup the contents of a laptop with the previous OS and every time I did so it would no longer boot. I don't have a solution, I just gave up on the older stuff and copied over applications and documents.
113: Are you starting to clue in yet? These kind of things don't just happen!
118: One thing I'm unclear on is that I don't think Time Machine lets you pull files directly? Because they're all sitting there in some stripped-down format, and you can't restore them without some referent on the new HD.
I'd pursue A. except that it would take 5 hours, and then if it didn't work I'd have to start over again. But if I knew A would work, that would ISTM be optimal.
113 sounds like a choice between a funky OS (A) and a funky hard drive (B). Given those options, I'd pick the funky hard drive.
121: Yeah, writing it up I can't really see a problem with (B), just that it feels wrong somehow (partly because the partitions would be 50/50).
Yeah, overly partitioned hard drives are annoying, but not actively malign, like a glitchy OS.
As someone whose spent some time around neocons in college and engaged a bit on blogs, I've found that they kind of almost want people to be antisemitic. I've had neoconservatives try to goad me into admitting that Jews are cliquish/tribal/control the world/control the banks, etc, and get sort of upset when I refused. OTOH, these were the same people to claim it was antisemitic to not want to bomb France in 2003, or to not want to round up Arab Americans and put them in camps. My armchair psychologizing is that they sort of wanted people (at least leftists) to admit being antisemitic so they can justify calling stuff that is blatantly not antisemitic antisemitic. Also...I've found that many of the neocons I know are sort of obsessed with Nazism in a way that doesn't seem totally like disgust. Almost more of a fascination/admiration of strength and an anger to have been on the receiving rather than giving end. The same people who think that Hillary Clinton is a fascist will tie themselves in knots to excuse Heidegger and Schmitt. I had a fight about 5 years ago on a blog I used to read where a self-identified neocon told me that it was leftist hysteria to claim Schmitt was a Nazi. Then I was like, wikipedia it you asshole." Then they were like, well, he was maybe a Nazi, but he wasn't a Nazi. I remember thinking, WTH is your definition of Nazism if Barack Obama is a real Nazi but not Carl Schmitt.
Alright, doing it. Partitioned, former restore is wiped. Going to try a clean install on 450 GB, then restore an older backup to the 550 GB. I may keep older work files over there as well, we'll see how things shake out.
Pray for me.
Like, AIHMHB, it's not just crying wolf, but I think there is a part of the neoconservative right that has been so invested in calling anything remotely leftist, even left-liberal, fascism or Nazism that they maybe started to believe it, and now there's no language or even thought categories left to talk or think about actual fascism or actual right wing authoritarianism, which is incredibly dangerous. Also, because we've spent the years since Reagan learning religious oppression and white nationalism and surveillance are freedom, it makes it almost impossible to trace out in the MSM or the mainstream public sphere how organizations like ISIS do share similarities to Western right wing religious authoritarian organizations.
Pray for me.
...to get mega-laid!
Also...I've found that many of the neocons I know are sort of obsessed with Nazism in a way that doesn't seem totally like disgust. Almost more of a fascination/admiration of strength
This same phenomenon is huge among WWII buffs. I haven't read military history forums in years, but back when I dipped into them I noticed that, if your only source of information on WWII came from those places, you would never guess that the Nazis lost.
I've heard the term "Wehraboo" used to describe that tendency.
How many of the 113 women need to be Jewish for me to avoid accusations of antisemitism?
Is that what they call Google Glass and the iWatch in Germany?
Any criticism of Israel seems to draw cries of antisemitism.
By the same token, any charge of antisemitism now seems to draw cries of "any criticism of Israel seems to draw cries of antisemitism." In a certain kind of discussion, "not everything is antisemitism" has turned into "nothing is antisemitism."
While we're being complete, there are also people who support Israel for antisemitic reasons, either because they want the Jews to start the end of the world or because of separatism.
Is it anti-Semitic to hate Jews for Jesus?
I don't know. When they try to give me a pamphlet, I just say I'm Catholic.
Oh God. It's doing the same thing. New HD, new RAM, new OS install, and all it does is get about halfway through the startup screen (gray Apple with progress bar) and freeze up.
Is the motherboard or processor fried? It can do things like boot up in recovery mode, run disk utility, restore from backup, etc. It just can't, you know, run.
I'm out all afternoon, so whee!
132 It's not for me to say but I feel that comment violates the norms of presidential commenting. There's no personal disclosure involved, it's your opinion and you should own it. To do otherwise seems cowardly to me.
Let's not forget the glorious days of the early 00's, when antisemitism was the go to charge against people objecting our catastrophic military adventurism in the middle east.
Good times.
Any criticism of Israel seems to draw cries of antisemitism. By the same token, any charge of antisemitism now seems to draw cries of "any criticism of Israel seems to draw cries of antisemitism." In a certain kind of discussion, "not everything is antisemitism" has turned into "nothing is antisemitism."
Frederick Douglass wrote something along those lines about slavery, and specifically people who insisted on analogizing everything they didn't like to slavery.
Now what is this system of slavery ? This is the subject of
my lecture this evening-- what is the character of this institu-
tion? I am about to answer the inquiry, what is American
slavery ? I do this the more readily, since I have found per-
sons in this country who have identified the term slavery with
that which I think it is not, and in some instances, I have
feared in so doing have rather (unwittingly, I know) detracted
much from the horror with which the term slavery is contem-
plated. It is common in this country to distinguish every bad
thing by the name slavery. Intemperance is slavery (cheers) •
to be deprived of the right to vote is slavery, says one ; to have
to work hard is slavery, says another (laughter, and loud cheers) and I do not know but that if I should let them go on they
would say to eat when we are hungry, to walk when we desire to
have exercise, or to minister to our necessities, or have necessi-
ties at all, is slavery. (Laughter.)
138 is right. Presidentiality is properly for sensitive personal information, not lobbing controversial statements about the issues. Not that I'm going to do anything enforcy about it, but consider this side-eye.
Can we still use "lurkers support me in email" for sockpuppeting?
That Douglass passage is great, but I'm sorry he didn't actually say "cheers" after "Intemperance is slavery."
I have a certain amount of sympathy for not wanting your pseud involved in any arguments involving Israel - Palestine. Its pretty much the most toxic thing to argue about on the internet, and one might not want people forevermore to judge their pseud based on that particular issue.
149 - agree. Also the substantive point is correct so if you want to randomly assign 132 to a random commenter I'll take it on as my own.
if you want to randomly assign 132 to a random commenter I'll take it on as my own.
Tigre has the blood of Palestine on his hands!
149, 150: While all of that is true, it doesn't seem to be a hot-button issue here in particular, not on the level of "the Democratic primary" or "police brutality." (With this notable exception, but even that thread didn't get past 56 comments.) So I think it's safe to sign a pretty restrained statement like 132.
I misspelled "ads" in that thread. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
At the Blood Bank, where a certain ABC tv show is always on. Today, thanks presumably to this thread, I heard its title as "The Jew".
(It's a food-themed show called The Chew).
Someone took me to the "Jew Boy Restaurant" not long ago. It had four tables and a Rastafarian theme.
In terms of local folks, I probably know more Native Americans than Jews. At my workplace, though, all the Native Americans have left and been replaced by Jews.
I'm still getting surveyed monthly by the bureau of labor statistics, but I don't think they're capturing this . . .
Come to think of it, I had curried pork. So: no.
Leaving aside process for a moment to focus on outcomes, it seems like, at this point, it would probably serve everyone's long-term interests best if Bibi and his incorporated mob would just get going with the real genocide at some point. Obviously, there's no way they could actually murder all the Palestinians, but they could make a pretty serious start. Then the Palestinians would be the sympathetic ones to your average Know-Nothing (the kind of person that runs governments). After the Arab world rose up, a lot of the lingering corruption of monarchism and Ba'athism would be washed away, and the settlers could slink back to Europe and the US where the whitey-fighties could cosset them and give them another few dozen billions of dollars. Palestine would eventually rebound (after the fallout had mostly been cleaned up) and everyone would be happy.
So, smartypantses, who among you can tell me how much of the above was in earnest and how much was just a big joke?
159.3 - I don't think that a "hey guys, guess how much of a genocidal asshole I really am!" game sounds super fun. Maybe better as a reality TV show?
"Jen O'Side" is still available as a pseud.
160: Hey, I don't vote Likud. Save your ire for people who are actually committing the genocide, not just predicting it.
159. "After Hitler, we will take over!" has already been tried as a strategy. How successful it was from the point of view of the masses depends on your assessment of the DDR.
160: in his defence, Natilo is not actually calling for genocide, merely for the compulsory large-scale identification, forced concentration, internment, categorisation and deportation of an entire six-million-strong population by means of armed force, based on religion and ethnic origin. That's ethnic cleansing, on a scale that would make the Interahamwe, Idi Amin and Radovan Karadzic jealous of his ambition, but it is not quite genocide.
OT: My office is still shaking because of the repair work on an attached building. The shaking is stronger than any earthquake I have ever experienced, but then I've only been through one very minor earthquake.
And I can't even open my window blinds because the stupid sun came out.
If I wanted sunshine and buildings that shake, I'd move to California.
Who would have figured that sending a ship named Terror into Terror Bay could end badly?
The Atlantic claims that Terror Bay is "coincidentally named", i.e. not after HMS Terror, a claim I find highly unlikely.
Interesting historical sidenote: "The rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air"? The bombs (mortar bombs) were being fired from HMS Terror. The rockets were being fired from HMS Erebus, the namesake of Terror's sister ship on the Franklin and other expeditions.
That's what you get for shooting at Baltimore.
165: Again, not calling for it, just saying -- if it's going to happen anyway, what are the settlers waiting for?
That's what you get for shooting at Baltimore.
BLM used to be a lot more hardcore than it is now.
172: I'm just going to go ahead and think of you as Natilo Pepe from now on, you pathetic little ghoul.
Erebus was found a couple of years ago. They brought up her bell last year. Here is a long but worthwhile piece on the weird politics surrounding the find.
Speaking of living in the cold, I just bought a pair of winter-weight wool hunting pants. I'm now looking for a thick red/black plaid wool shirt to wear with it. I already have the hat with ear flaps.
176: the guy really should have mentioned his large personal stake in the story a bit further up that article.
The building is shaking so much I'm afraid to go to the bathroom because I don't want to die Elvis.
