Re: Ossoff and Goofoff

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I'm pretty sure that Handel will win. There's prolly a fair amount of "embarrassment bias" in the polling. People who don't want to be associated with the abominable gop will still vote for them in the secrecy of the voting booth.


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 10:51 AM
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Me too. I'm genuinely pessimistic, not just strategically pessimistic.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 10:55 AM
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How about something positive and fun?

A faraway friend (and occasional sexting buddy) and I were texting today and it came out that she has all of seventy bucks to make it the next three weeks. I offered to send money from my emergency fund but she was more than a bit hesitant to accept an outright gift. A few rounds of back and forth and a plan was hatched. I will pay her for naughty pictures. This gets her the money without feeling like she has to pay it back, entertains us both, and ups us both a couple of points on the impurity test. She's going to send me a menu of suggestively named foods and prices and I'll pick. She has to figure out WTF the suggestive name implies in reality and send a picture. So Mineshaft: Can you name suggestively named foods I should ask her to add to the menu?


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:41 AM
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That's why they should ask a lead-in question about goat fucking. You can compare the GOP vote among those who admit goat fucking with those who don't and see how many are just unwilling to admit the truth.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:43 AM
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So, I guess I should have hit "refresh" there.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:43 AM
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Can you name suggestively named foods I should ask her to add to the menu?

Can you give us an example of what you're thinking of? How dirty, and/or how silly do you want?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:45 AM
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Something with cumin and dill(do)? Perhaps a cucumber? Rather summery and light.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:48 AM
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6: Anything at all really. So far Rump roast, split buns and hot sausage are well spoken for, so we don't need any more of them. Various sauces have made an appearance. To be honest I don't think it's really possible to out-filthy her mind. It's one of the things I love about her.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:49 AM
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7 is good.

Like an idiot I posted this minutes before I have to spend three hours in an electromagnetically shielded box, so I can't really keep up on the fly. I'll check in as soon as I can.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 11:51 AM
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I've got your suggestively named food, right here.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:11 PM
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The whining part of the post was my request because I have strep AGAIN and am being a huge baby about it, plus will probably have to get my tonsils out, as will Selah for the same reason. And SHE is so healthy otherwise I hadn't even updated her hospital file to her adoptive name because we hadn't even gone to urgent care in two years. This is some nonsense! (I have other complaints too, but it's almost time to pick Mara up for physical therapy. I've already done my own OT and therapy this morning. Why yes, I am enjoying unemployment!)


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:12 PM
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Canard pressé. Mascarpone. Pork cracklings. Oysters Rockefeller. Cruller.

I'm helping!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:13 PM
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Bucket of lard could/should play a role.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:14 PM
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If you get your tonsils out, you get to eat lots of ice cream. I'm assuming that facts learned from Brady Bunch episodes are still up to date medical knowledge.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:16 PM
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14: Pork chops and applesauce?


Posted by: OPINIONATED JOHNNY BRAVO | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:26 PM
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The suit fit. I just read that Sean Spicer is being forced out of his job appearing before the press because he's gaining too much weight to fit in his suits. Stress will do that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:31 PM
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Maybe Spicer and Orange Caligula together will convince America to get more exercise.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:42 PM
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The simple average of Ossoff's vote share in all 13 polls leading up to the primary was 39%, his highest in any poll was 45%, but he got 48% on the day. So shy authoritarians not in evidence there so far.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:48 PM
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But they wouldn't be, right? They would have just been unenthusiastic Republicans who sat it out or voted for some other R.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:49 PM
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What, shy authoritarians can't also be unenthusiastic Republicans? (I was mostly replying to 1.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 12:53 PM
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I escaped from my box for a minute.

I lost the over/under for when Spicey would be forced out (though technically it was fired that I was trying to predict). I had after August. Maybe I will be technically correct (the best kind of correct!) if he's fired from wherever he ends up.

12,13: I'm going to ask that one of the items be steamed broccoli (one of my favorite foods). Let her figure out what kind of picture that corresponds to.

Also she's not British so I bet she'd respond poorly to requests for toad in the hole. A quick google of that name also brings up bubble and squeak, which is promising, and of course the inevitable spotted dick.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:13 PM
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(Finally spotted dick came up)

Welsh rarebit/rabbit. English trifle. Beef Wellington. Hot cross buns (of course). Butter tarts (ditto).


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:28 PM
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Cheese Nips


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:39 PM
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Y'know, Eggplant hasn't been around in awhile.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:43 PM
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Let me be the first to suggest Rye Cooter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:44 PM
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Butter tarts (ditto).

Cream horns.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 1:46 PM
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Also, Toggie, this whole arrangement is adorable.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 2:09 PM
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Would "Tang" cross the line between suggestive and definitive?


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 2:31 PM
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28: It's what Astronauts drink! Though once you open the door to suggestively named drinks civilization collapsesthe challenge is much easier. Maybe no alcohol would make it harder again. All of a sudden my taste for Shirley Temples makes me feel dirty.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 3:01 PM
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Half of a blood orange. Flank steak. Octopus.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 3:19 PM
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How about alcohol but no suggestive drink names. Negroni, but not Wallbanger.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 3:45 PM
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Does Bloody Mary count?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 4:50 PM
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I mean, you don't even have to go with a specific dish, you can just say that instead of cooking at home you'd rather eat out tonight.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 4:52 PM
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FiveThirtyEight is liveblogging the election returns from Georgia (and South Carolina) tonight.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 5:20 PM
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Something with dumplings. Pork dumplings, maybe? Pork buns? Tacos would be almost too easy. Curious what she'd come up with for layer cake.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 6:02 PM
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I had soup dumpling for dinner. Those are so great. Also, pot stickers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 6:05 PM
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Flank Steak and octopus are good. Subtler than most of what she's come up with.

On the subject - I just started doing a little financial tidy up before firing off the funds to her. I remembered that I bought a couple hundred dollars of bitcoin a while back out of my fun fund just to see what it's all about. Jesus Christ has bitcoin exploded! There's no way this is not a bubble. I can cover my friend without touching emergency funds and still have a generous fun fund. Given that this is unexpected money I think I'm going to give some of it to Doctors Without Borders. Gotta act quickly or I'll mentally spend all of it and MSF will get nothing.

The moral of the story is: buy random shit for no good reason and then forget you bought it.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 6:09 PM
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That's the leading cause of moldy fruit in the crisper.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 6:14 PM
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"Welsh Rabbit is amusing and right. Welsh Rarebit is stupid and wrong."


Posted by: OPINIONATED FOWLER | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 6:34 PM
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Anyway, the election came out the same way as the last one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 7:02 PM
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Republicans gonna Republican, I guess.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 7:18 PM
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From FB:

Spotted in Kerrville Home Depot parking lot:
DID YOU KNOW
1 out of 3 Trump supporters
are just as dumb as the other 2


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 8:11 PM
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42: Love this. So tired of being asked to treat Trump supporters as the hapless victims of world-historical forces beyond their control, when really, weren't they just bog-standard GOP voters out for the tax breaks?


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 8:20 PM
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41: It's what they do.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 8:47 PM
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It is indeed.

Especially with the asymmetrical stakes in each of these races: a nice win for us, a harbinger of catastrophe for them.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-20-17 9:21 PM
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I think there's a loyalty factor that Democrats don't share. Or at least the marginal democrat isn't as loyal to party as the marginal Republican.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:16 AM
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35: Pork buns is good. I'll ask about layer cake when the time comes.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:17 AM
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Personally, I think somebody needs to run doing all the stuff Clinton (Bill) did to convince people he wasn't too liberal. Execute a mentally disabled guy, yell at rappers, call for the death penalty for playing basketball at midnight, etc. The issue isn't policies. It's that you must be a certain degree of shithead to get elected in certain places and that there are enough of those places that if the Democrats don't win a big chunk of them, we'll be unable to win often enough to keep America from being ruined.

Picture a sign with a cutout of a voter (I picture him with two teeth and a Confederate Flag tattoo) holding his hand flat and reading "You must be this horrible to successful stand for office." The level of that hand is high enough that you, you being us, would hate anybody qualified. The problem isn't finding a candidate willing to demonstrate understanding of white assholes. It's that that anybody acceptable to you becomes unelectable to him by virtue of being acceptable to you.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:29 AM
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Technically, I suppose it should be possible to persuade that marginal voter that we're not so horrible. But I don't think that is very likely because I just called him a toothless, open racist when he is, in all probability, a comfortable, khaki-clad, insurance adjuster or something.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:32 AM
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Who's got two thumbs and is flying this afternoon to a state that Trump won by 25%?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:43 AM
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Tune in next week for the answer. Same Bat channel, same Bat time.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 5:49 AM
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I had this great insight into my level of understanding of American politics. If you had asked me in 2006, I would have confidently explained that there was no way the U.S. would elect for President, an African-American with the middle name Hussein. If you had asked me in 2014, I would have laughed at anyway who suggested a game-show host/free-lance con artist with a well-earned reputation as a philanderer would even have a chance to be elected President. It's not just that I was utterly wrong, I was wrong in opposite directions.

In conclusion, I'm turning in my pundit's license.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 6:25 AM
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|| Have any of the lawyers here read about the challenge to the Trump University settlement? Is it normal for a class-action settlement not to have any opt-out provisions?
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Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 6:31 AM
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On the plus side, the coming war with Russia will pull all Americans together and global warming will be solved by the whole nuclear winter thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 6:31 AM
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Anyway, now that those elections are over, I think our week of not really egregious tweets is over. Plus, Obamacare can be killed to provide a tax-cut for the wealthy in time for Congress to have its summer recess.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 6:42 AM
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The tax cut is a burning issue for Paul Ryan. He's willing to force pretty much anything through the house that can be pointed to as ACA repeal, regardless of how awful. The tax cut is driving him up the wall. I heard a bit of a speech by him to some trade association, and it was almost painful how much he wants that cut. He called this moment a "once in a lifetime opportunity" which hopefully it is.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 6:52 AM
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Yes. Between now and when people pay attention for elections in November 2018.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:07 AM
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and global warming will be solved by the whole nuclear winter thing

Right, through the magic of the free market.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:12 AM
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If you had asked me in 2006, I would have confidently explained that there was no way the U.S. would elect for President, an African-American with the middle name Hussein. If you had asked me in 2014, I would have laughed at anyway who suggested a game-show host/free-lance con artist with a well-earned reputation as a philanderer would even have a chance to be elected President. It's not just that I was utterly wrong, I was wrong in opposite directions.

Uninformed voters are just voting on who they'd like to be the next American Idol reality TV star. Republicans are just falling in line because they're greedy, racist white flight suburban morally-bankrupt assholes. The rest of us are more or less trying to minimize the rate that the damage occurs.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:15 AM
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Honestly, the whole "heighten the contradictions" thing is starting to sound more appealing the trying to minimize damage.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:18 AM
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Has there every been a time when heightening the contradictions worked? I thought that was just a consolation phrase.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:19 AM
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No. It doesn't work. I just figure the average Republican voter will suffer more than I will.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:20 AM
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Of course, the average Democratic voter will suffer more than the average Republican voter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:20 AM
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Of course, somebody should think of the children. Not somebody at Penn State.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:24 AM
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I was confused by the map at TPM about which states will be hit hardest by ACA repeal. I had assumed that purple states that had expanded Medicaid would be hit hardest, partly as punishment, and that states that had sabotaged the implementation of the ACA to the maximal extent would see minimal change. But in fact, it's the standard map of everything in the US, showing that life is shittiest in the south and Texas for yet another reason. And Montana and Idaho, IIRC.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:24 AM
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Yes. America was destroyed by the invention of the air conditioner.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:26 AM
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I'm beginning to think that maybe the Democrats should stop making big deals over these special elections in heavily Republican districts that they're very likely to lose.

I mean, go ahead and run someone, sure. But making a big "This could be the first sign that the GOP is starting to crack!" production out of it seems to backfire. It just reenforces their pathetic image: "The Democrats: Still Losing!".


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:27 AM
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There's actually a new thread on the front page dedicated to exactly how big of losers we are and how bleak everything is.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:30 AM
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I think it was a big deal regardless and thus an important loss regardless of how much effort the Democrats made. A victory in either would have significantly constrained a few Congressional Republicans in similar seats.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:30 AM
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Anyway, I've changed my position on class war and would like somebody to start one please.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:32 AM
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Somebody who isn't named "Koch".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:34 AM
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"The Democrats: Still Losing!"

A whole lot of people are pretty deeply invested in that message.

I mean, go ahead and run someone

I hate to kick the dead horse on this, but once again, this formulation is (a) fundamentally at odds with how the system works and (b) deeply misleading about the role of parties. By and large, candidates pick themselves. They spend a bunch of time going around trying to convince people who basically agree with them that they can win, so backing them is a sound use of money. If they get a good enough response in that, they spend a bunch of time (and the money they've raised) trying to convince primary voters that they're likely to win, and then to make a positive difference. And that the other fellow isn't.

Parties don't run candidates. Candidates try (and one succeeds) to win parties.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:40 AM
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Early Money Is Like Yeast. I comes from the grocery store in little foil packages.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:42 AM
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+t.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:43 AM
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And Montana and Idaho, IIRC.

And, importantly, Alaska I thought (though I haven't looked at that particular map).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:48 AM
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Cheese Nips

Or that Scottish classic, nips and titties.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06-21-17 7:54 AM
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