Re: Pop Is Just Alright

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Pop!


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 2:30 PM
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Well said. He makes a good point that most whites will miss, and that is: If you were born white you probably have no idea how much that has advantaged you relative to those who were born of a darker race. I always considered myself to be very open minded on race, but it still took more than half of my life to understand and see the insidious racism that still haunts our country.


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 2:57 PM
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I figured out the insidious racism right away. The structural racism took longer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 3:16 PM
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He's lovely and correct, but why we gotta suggest more old white men for president?


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 3:39 PM
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Good for you. I think we are talking about the same thing.


Posted by: lumpkin | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 3:58 PM
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I'm like a bee, but for racism. I can see differences that normal humans can't.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 4:10 PM
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Texas senate seems like the more reasonable possibility.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 4:37 PM
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Almost anybody can see that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 4:39 PM
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Here's a winner: https://twitter.com/deray/status/912484747049349120


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-25-17 11:28 PM
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Thanks for 9.


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 5:40 AM
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This Matt Bors cartoon is in the same vein but it is probably too rude for a facebook discussion. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/28/1575104/-Cartoon-Protest-in-peace


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 7:03 AM
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More about Pop's interests in politics: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20809321/nba-about-president-trump-triggers-gregg-popovich

(a good story, but it makes things explicit in a way which isn't very Popovich-like).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 11:30 AM
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Is it just me, or has commenter diversity dwindled a lot here in the last year, or many the last 6 months? It seems like it's roughly the same 10-20 people each thread these days, rather than a more robust group of two or three times that many. Varies week to week, but still, it's peculiar.
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Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 12:33 PM
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13 We need new blood. Also some old blood returning would be welcome.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 12:54 PM
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Not that it'd make any difference, and I've been saying this for years, but I should really post more.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 12:56 PM
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Bring back Stabby. That was good new blood.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:03 PM
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It does seem like unfogged has been quiet lately.

I think that the summer is often slow but (a) I don't know if academics are a significant fraction of the commenters anymore and (b) it's not summer anymore and there hasn't been an increase in activity.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:27 PM
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Bring back bob?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:32 PM
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I kid, I kid.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:32 PM
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I've been quieter because of life, probably. And because the news is so dreadful I don't want to talk about it even with people I agree with and don't always want to bother disagreeing when I disagree here.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:48 PM
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Maybe Unfogged should pivot to video.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 1:54 PM
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Oh right. Also because I'll read links but don't make me listen to or watch stuff. Ugh.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 2:24 PM
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I blame that asshole Zuckerberg.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 2:38 PM
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There is or was a notable upswing in re-emergences by older commenters, but it's very inconsistent.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 7:51 PM
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This is me, wondering if alameida is alright.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 9:52 PM
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I thought the big reduction in commenters was longer ago, but then I didn't comment at all for the first month or two of this year.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 10:04 PM
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25: if she's at her destination she may be phoneless for a while. I think that's how it goes.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-26-17 10:28 PM
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Wow. Having read Unfogged for years I'm commenting for the first time, and being new I want to respond to the video itself. That is a profound and impressively coherent statement on white privilege and the importance of talking about it. I assume it was witnessed by a few more - that is, a few orders of magnitude more - people than we academics ever reach. I agree with 4 that we don't need to be boosting another old white guy for president, but aren't there a couple of other posts in the US government that might benefit from the experience, moral commitment, and lucid speaking style Pop displays here?


Posted by: Gardner Bovingdon | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:31 AM
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I've spent some time in the hospital-- pulmonary embolisms, which is surprising since I am just middle-aged and basically healthy. I'm out and about now, but just haven't had that much to say about US politics.

Depressingly, coffee (or indeed any caffeine), biking to work, and the main way I've been working out (racquetball) are all off-limits for a while, and I'm supposed to drink alcohol not too much and not too often to boot.

I read a nice article about the German election in the NYT, though not sure people here will like it much. The Tooze machine-gun slides were super-interesting, have not listened to the talk yet.

I've been trying to learn a little about why neural nets have started performing so well in the last few years-- it seems that the answer is basically much more densely connected networks of neurons, dont yet know how the new approaches deal with the monstrously large search space. Too specialized for talking about here, I am guessing, but if there are a few who are interested (or who know good reading), I can send along a guest post.

There's a running joke about a fruit basket for new commenters. Instead, let me ask whether there's much/any evidence for Sogdian having been set in movable type not long before Gutenberg?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:45 AM
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Oh no, lw! I hope you'll be doing better soon. And now I can feel lucky that I do get to indulge in caffeine still, so some have it worse!!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:47 AM
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28: Hello.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:47 AM
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Thanks, Thorn. How are you? Last update I remember was ankle trouble and a free time situation you weren't sure you loved. Hope those are both shaping up...


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:51 AM
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Hello GB! Good health, lw! And I for one am interested in both Germany and neural nets.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:52 AM
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29.4. My impression, as someone who has worked on the periphery of ML, is "GPUs."


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 11:59 AM
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34. Maybe. Tumor classification, one of the apparent real successes, apparently works fine with old methods. I haven't worked through the google Go paper's methods yet.

The TensorFlow people pay attention to the problem, but theyre just trying stuff out to see what works as far as I can tell from the outside.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 12:55 PM
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Pulmonary embolism, holy shit. So glad you're still here. Please do guest post! What kind of jerk doesn't like reading about neural networks?


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 1:21 PM
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29. I don't know about neural networks, but take care.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-29-17 1:34 PM
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