I was going to read her, but I was afraid I would be afraid of her.
I was afraid limping was infectious.
It might be, based on what keeping happening to commenters here.
1. is actually a realistic concern. But yes, she is brilliant. Who is Michelle Shocked? Should I read her stuff?
You can read the lyrics I guess. Maybe listening to the music is better.
Michelle Shocked has always stuck in my mind. I saw her in concert. Her concert persona irritated me to the point that it put me off her music for about a decade. That's the most extreme reaction of that sort I've ever had.
6: Can you elaborate? I know that she was saying homophobic shit in concert a few years back, but I don't recall general stories about her concert persona.
I will say that I heard "Memories of East Texas" like once on the radio in the mid-'90s and it stayed vividly with me, but I never knew who it was. First time I heard "S,S,S", I was so thrilled to hear it again.
Not neurotic but depressive. There does seem to be a link between mood disorders and writers- especially manic depressive illness.
Kay Jamison wrote a book about this in the 80's. Recently she wrote a book on Robert Lowell. he wrote a lot when manic:"high" then edited it when depressed.
7: The concert we went to would have been in the late nineties. At a couple of points she stopped to preach about some pet issues--squatter's rights was one of them I can't recall the others. That's fine but there was an undercurrent of hostility that made the whole thing unfun. It felt like she was was step away from saying, "You pampered jerks you can afford $15 for a concert have no idea what life is like on the streets. You have no clue the things I've seen. Here's a song about how I feel"
To be fair, I don't have any idea what life is like on the streets, and I wasn't expecting an apolitical act. It just felt like she really didn't like the sort of people who would show up at her concert.
This could be a random me-specific thing. I was put off Hank Williams Sr. when I stopped hearing his songs as the voice of a sensitive lonesome man and started hearing them as that of a self-pitying alcoholic and bad husband. Maybe it's all in my head..
No. I was just thinking about artists I've turned sour on and why. There are lots of singers I know to be jerks but I can compartmentalize the music.
Anyway, I was rambling. Can we delete the last paragraph of 9 as off-topic?
That isn't quite true, but 9.last counts as on-topic by unfogged standards.
Certainly closer than I've been lately.
Which means it's a structural problem.
I have difficulties with Karajan and Schwarzkopf along the lines of inability to ignore personal and political repugnance.
I generally find it unpleasant when a performer stops performing and does a political speech. This is true whether I agree or disagree with the speech. I came to be entertained, not lectured to. This probably gets me a prime position up against the wall after the revolution.
Thinking about this and the Absolutely On-topic Totally Related kneeling thread, perhaps one of the reasons some people don't like kneeling is that they know that if they did some equivalent thing at their job, they'd be disciplined or even fired. In that sense the NFL (and other) folks kneeling are privileged by their ability to do it and get away with it. In fact, see also Hillary Clinton and her private email server. This probably also gets me up against the wall after the revolution. It's over-determined!
On topic, I liked "To the Lighthouse" (read it and "Mrs. Dalloway" after seeing "The Hours") and I like Michelle Shocked's music.
Yeah, I don't get that. I think most people aren't asked to overtly express admiration for police brutality in their jobs.
That's putting it a bit strongly. Maybe a better way to put it is that most Americans aren't asked to sign a loyalty oath before going to work at their jobs.
I liked To the Lighthouse, but don't remember it. It's been something like 25 years. Maybe I should reread.
I read To a Grecian Urn. It was really short.
I think a lot of Americans who oppose the NFL protests would be fine reciting loyalty oaths in their own jobs rather than resenting those who don't have to.
Yes. But I wouldn't be any more fine at knowing they made me to do it than the football players taking a knee are. I don't have the kind of market power somebody with an NFL contract has, but I certainly don't begrudge them their ability to tell Trump and the people he rouses to go fuck themselves and remind them who has more pull.
Anyway, I don't think taking a knee was ever the same as a performer just going off about politics at a concert or something because a player is a relatively small fish in a pond controlled entirely and in great detail by the owners, but even if it was, after Trump spoke, to just go out there like nothing happened became submitting to Trump.
I don't have the kind of market power somebody with an NFL contract has
AND YET, YOU HAVE A JOB.
Two, kind of. It really does seem to be working out much better for everybody who isn't him.
27: IN UNION THERE IS STRENGTH
WE MUST INDEED ALL HANG TOGETHER, OR, MOST ASSUREDLY, WE SHALL ALL HANG SEPARATELY.
"They said you was hung."
I don't know why people were complaining in the other thread about how the commentariate here has shrunk. Just look at all the new commenters we're getting!
I had to sign a loyalty oath to work at UC-Berkeley. I crossed my fingers though so it didn't count.
More seriously, I am very uncomfortable by the pro-military and patriotic stuff in the US. I try to be elsewhere for the anthem and God Save America stuff because it's weird to not do those things at a sporting event but it's not my stuff. I've also been slightly rude to a lady who was cooing over some US military nonsense* at the airport. She just wanted me to join her in appreciating how brave or something they were, but I was like 'not my country'. Which in retrospect was rude but it had been a long day and the military nonsense was in my way. And I will always cry at the surprise return of the deployed dad that they do at sporting events. Or the videos when the dog freaks out because someone is back.
*I didn't understand what was going on. It seemed like they let the families past security to the gates to hug their relative but then they were off somewhere else?
Oh and hey, now DHS will be collecting all my social media so that's fun. Actually, I wonder how much they collect from me already. Do they search for my 'not real name' stuff? I'm pretty sure that the last DHS official googled me and found my personal/professional website.
Pro-Tip: If you spell it "ISIL" instead of "ISIS", their bots won't catch it.
I keep reading this as "West Virginia," because I am apparently dyslexic.
I have thoughts on Virginia Woolf and loved To the Lighthouse, but I'm too brain dead to think/write them coherently.
I see emissions control violations. And the Holocaust.
So, I bought To a Lighthouse. If I don't get $2.80 worth of either enjoyment or increased depth out of it, it's ogged's fault.
I guess at less than $3, it's probably worth it solely on the grounds that it will help Amazon think I don't have shitty taste.
That should be DNF. DTF is a little different.
My phone's browser crashes when I backspace too much which makes it really hard to comment here.
Peter would think her sentimental. So she was. For she had come to feel that it was the only thing worth saying - what one felt. Cleverness was silly. One must say simply what one felt.
"But I do not know" said Peter Walsh, "what I feel."
-summed up my life until my late 20s and still resonates
He's the not-Mr.Dalloway. Searching for that quotation makes me realize I really need to reread that book because I don't remember the plot at all. Except that it was about a middle aged woman getting ready for a boring party. She did buy flowers.
Except that it was about a middle aged woman getting ready for a boring party.
I've seen that.
Sorry, Moby, I'm off to bed. That was a good comic though.
Have fun on the website!
(a) I wish to register my happiness and delight that Ogged loves To the Lighthouse, as well he should.
(b) regarding And I will always cry at the surprise return of the deployed dad that they do at sporting events: I feel you but I loathe these so hard for their exploitation factor that it manages to override my normally hair-trigger sentimental readiness to cry at even, like, bread advertisement.
I see you too, Mobes, and you look great.
End of the century, getting to be a theme.
I would totally have sworn that Hef passed away 6 months ago. And that, friends, is what makes one an unreliable narrator.
I see Von Wafer.
Von Wafer is Von Wafer, not VW.
52: Alas. (Looks mournfully at huge stack of HEF IN 2020 campaign posters now doomed to recycling.)
On the OP, there is definitely a correlation between mental illness (specifically bipolar) and creativity; see, for example, "Strong Imagination: madness, creativity and human nature" by Daniel Nettle.
Is chronic ankle pain linked to anything useful?
Misery and misanthropy, Mobes. I suppose YMMV but probably not by much because it also makes getting around a huge hassle.
Fortunately, it's cooler today so I can wear boots and get some support.
Anyway, I can get around but I have to take Aleve. And my sister says I shouldn't drink very much while taking Aleve. My other sister says I shouldn't drink very much either, but she's only a lawyer.
That is, I have to take Aleve to get around without limping. I can always limp.
Dude, I support you regardless of your footwear choices. You're Moby Hick!
Chronic ankle pain was linked to having a huge iron ball fettered to your leg in a recent study published in the New England Journal of Cartoon Medicine.
It's been associated with advanced riddle-solving ability since ancient times.
I've already used that reference, haven't I? Shit.
It really is more my heel than my ankle, so it's a good reference.
Can you walk into the same joke twice?
66: also skill at archery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philoctetes
Moby does live in District 12.
Also limping has been associated with skill at flying Spitfires, although in this particular case the patient did not suffer any ankle pain at all, for obvious reasons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader
Yes. That's why they'll make you work in coal mines.
You shift sixteen tons and whaddya obtain?
Another day older and chronic ankle pain.
St Peter don't you call me 'cause I've gone Galt
I've knocked off early and gone to Fresh Salt.
Should of course be
You make sixteen puns and whaddya obtain?
Another day older and chronic ankle pain.
Dammit. Stupid slow brain.
Would have cost you continuity with the D12 reference.
Don't overestimate the audience.
So the hypothesis that I could write like Virginia Woolf if I took enough cocaine is pretty compelling, but isn't there also a risk of writing like, say, Bret Easton Ellis? Can someone help me game this out? Are there good designer options nowadays? It ain't 1922.
(I don't have the energy to google it, but IIRC Proust took a shit-ton of drugs while working on his giant book. I don't remember who described him as being "under the influence of substances much more potent than a madeleine dipped in tea," and I have a bad feeling it might have been Adam Gopnik, but it still made me laugh. I don't know which drugs to blame for the tedium of "Sodom & Gomorrah.")
It happens every time somebody mentions cocaine.
You absolutely have to play a game of chicken where you stay late "working" in the office and don't leave, forcing him to stay up all night or roll out the bedding and admit his shame. Do it for us. It's like broke graduate student Seinfeld.
Fuck everyone and everything.
Commenting in the wrong thread is a new way to avoid feeling like you've come back.
Thanks, Moby. I doubt that you'll like To the Lighthouse all that much, fwiw.
I'm saving it for when I'm stuck with not enough signal to play Pokemon Go.
85.1: Now I'm trying to imagine what a version of Mrs. Dalloway written by Bret Easton Ellis would be like.
Are you the only one still playing that at this point?
94: the more I think about this, the more I suspect there's a whole bookcase full of examples at Foyle's or such. Rachel Cusk has probably done it.
If you stick with the policy in 93, you will miss all the Pokemon at the lighthouse.
x-posting from wrong thread:
To bring the threads together, cocaine would help me pull allnighters in my office.
No, you need to put that in Alameda's psychiatric crisis thread.