Re: Before the Age of Fixed-Soled Shoes

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Did you see people in the TOP comments disputing it? Here's an apparent anthropologist (though on Reddit) getting into detail, with links to videos of indigenous people walking heel-first and barefoot. At the very least it seems this German is speaking with false confidence.


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Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:28 AM
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Oops, link.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:28 AM
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I don't even see shoes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:52 AM
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1. Germans walk weirdly.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:53 AM
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They rarely goose step that I ever see.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:57 AM
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The Middle Ages -- when soles moved, but the soul was constant.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:59 AM
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I've lurked since ~2004 and even went to a 2007(?) UnFoggedDCCon and I still don't know what people mean by the other place. Insufficient lurking!


Posted by: Counterfly | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:09 AM
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The other place is F***book.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:10 AM
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FaceBook, which is where a lot of conversational energy went. No reason not to actually mention it by name, it just feels sort of Voldemorty.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:10 AM
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I'm not sure what Moby's reading, but I think he shouldn't be doing it at work.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:11 AM
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I vaguely feel like I'm in danger of linking people's pseuds with their real names when I take stuff from one place to the other. Certainly if I kept using a single person, the pattern might be enough to out them. So even though it's not a secret other piece, it's a vague gesture towards my discomfort.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:16 AM
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Ogged said, "You cannot serve both me and Zuckerberg." Many disobey, but they try to be discreet about it.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:24 AM
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Originally the name of this site was Unfaceogg.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:28 AM
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13: No. Facebook's original name was Fogbook.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 10:33 AM
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Fuckedbook


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 11:41 AM
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Zuckspace


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 12:16 PM
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Fakeblock.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 12:48 PM
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Faceeclecticwebmagazine


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 12:49 PM
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It is clearly bullshit. Anybody spending summers walking barefoot as a kid can tell. You can also look at numerous videos of barefoot hunters in Africa, etc. Just silly


Posted by: DN | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 8:52 PM
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I don't do a forefoot strike exactly but at least shift more to the midfoot when wearing barefoot shoes (vs normal shoes) or wearing minimalist trail runners (vs hiking boots). With modern shoes on normal pavement, both can be healthy, but when you are on trails with questionable traction, heel striking is treacherous because you can't recover by using your foot muscles---your heel slips out from under you and there's nothing behind your heel to help you recover. Before I realized that the secret was to consciously move the strike towards the front of the foot, I used to be really bad at going down scree-covered trails because of my natural heel strike.

When I ran barefoot as a child it was usually on grass and heel striking was fine on that terrain.


Posted by: Ponder Stibbons | Link to this comment | 10-12-17 9:07 PM
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Thank you so much Counterfly.


Posted by: Msw | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 3:21 AM
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Re: The other place. Tim will be eligible for U.S. Citizenship in June. One of the things they are asking for is Facebook and twitter accounts. (He used twitter once, because it helped him resolve an RMV issue.)

On F***book it says that I'm married to him, and I'm sort of afraid to discuss politics there in case it could affect his citizenship application.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:04 AM
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I really like that you took up my implied-Fuckbook joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:15 AM
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Re: The other place. Tim will be eligible for U.S. Citizenship in June. One of the things they are asking for is Facebook and twitter accounts. (He used twitter once, because it helped him resolve an RMV issue.)

On F***book it says that I'm married to him, and I'm sort of afraid to discuss politics there in case it could affect his citizenship application.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:18 AM
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I didn't like it that much.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:19 AM
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Whoops.

Biomechanics question. My current reboot basic minimal fitness routine consists of 35-90 plus minutes of walking in the evening, the 7-minute workout every morning and resistance bands for my arms 2-3 times a week.

My legs are getting to be a bit tight. In the past I was occasionally jogging or doing brief sprints to increase my heart rate, but recently I'm finding that my legs won't cooperate with that movement.

Does anyone have any good stretching suggestions? Videos with good demonstrations would be especially helpful.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:23 AM
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26 was me.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:24 AM
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Are you warming up before your morning workout and stretching after it?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:26 AM
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If not, maybe shift the workout to the evening, after you've warmed up by doing your walk.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:27 AM
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My legs are always very tight. It's probably not good, but never stopped me from running the way chronic ankle pain has. I just regular stretches, like toe touching and grabbing my foot from the back to stretch the front leg muscle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:36 AM
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No reason not to actually mention it by name, it just feels sort of Voldemorty.

More Withnaily, I'd have thought.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:43 AM
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The heart of rock 'n roll is still Eton.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:44 AM
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OT: Yesterday, they rescued a deer from the reservoir used for our drinking water. Now I'm wondering how many deer have drowned in our drinking water that nobody happened to notice.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 6:09 AM
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Grabbing my toe from the back doesn't seem to get the right muscles.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 6:10 AM
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29: the morning thing has a very brief warm up and i feel better, concentrate better if I do it.

I'm trying to figure out specific stretching routines.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 6:12 AM
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33: not to mention fish, frogs, birds, water beetles, freshwater crustacea, insect larvae and so on. It's OK, they filter the water.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 6:22 AM
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I always thought triangle pose gave the best results for tight legs. This is an OK intro: https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-mozilla-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=mozilla&p=triangle+pose#id=4&vid=6bdb38ba4f9c2cfb2a1de9808c982314&action=click


Posted by: roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:14 AM
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Some filtrides are heavier than others.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:18 AM
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AIHMHB due to a childhood injury I walk on my toes whenever barefoot, and even when not if I don't pay attention. My calves are indeed ripped like a medieval tapestry, but all my knees hurt anyway. There might be something to the slouching thing, but now I'l never be able to observe myself.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:50 AM
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The heart of rock 'n roll is still Eton.

This is great.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:55 AM
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My legs are getting to be a bit tight.

This is pretty vague. Hamstrings? Calves? Quads? Hip flexors? All of it?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:57 AM
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Alcohol goes straight into the bloodstream. If you're tight, all of you is tight.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:59 AM
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My legs are really tight lately, but I did 17,000 steps yesterday.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 8:04 AM
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I'm tight


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 9:07 AM
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41:quads, I think. Whatever you call the back side of the thigh.

I have also been getting knots in my thighs when I do lunges. I don't know how to stretch these out.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 9:52 AM
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Whatever you call the back side of the thigh.

Lower butt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 9:55 AM
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Hamstrings. Your quads are in front, above the knee.

You want to put one heel up on a chair or a box and lean towards your raised knee. You can vary how bent your knee is to get a stretch in the right place.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 9:56 AM
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It's only called "Hamstrings" on a pig.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 9:57 AM
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I described this method of walking* in detail on this blog 10ish years ago and I was ridiculed. I guess I was just ahead of my time. (As usual.) But really, it's the only safe way to walk.

*actually a somewhat improved twist on the same general method that involves landing on the ball of your foot but through your stride imagining that your hip flexors have both been slit horizontally with a knife and are nonfunctional.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:14 PM
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48 made me laugh.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 5:15 PM
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49: don't take away our ridicule in these dark times. We need what joy we can squeeze out of your gait.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:42 PM
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I have ridiculed urple, but I think it was his "no soap" thing (and yours) that got me to stop washing my hair with shampoo more than once a week.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:50 PM
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I still use soap.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 7:50 PM
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This is my new favorite cartoon. Not on topic, but I'm putting it here to save the trouble of bookmarking it on all the different computers I use.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-13-17 8:00 PM
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To the OP, these look pretty heel strikey to me, but what do I know? Maybe what goes around comes around even if it takes three and a half million years to do it.

This site notes the deep heel impressions.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-15-17 7:47 AM
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That was probably pretty squishy ground when they walked on it. The equivalent of a naturally occurring cross training shoes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-15-17 10:54 AM
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OT: Can't anybody in this administration get through a week without promising something unconstitutional or discussing their penis.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-15-17 1:56 PM
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