Re: Guest Post - This Stuck Record

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0 comments on this sounds about right, based on the amount of attention paid to foreign wars nowadays.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 9:21 AM
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Jeez.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 10:46 AM
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Thanks for sharing, and what a shitshow.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 10:57 AM
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What 3 said.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 11:22 AM
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I read the OP; it's not overlong, though it is depressing. In a "better" version of Syria's civil war, it sounds like the camp may have had a use, but it's just an anchor now.

It seems like money--probably in bribes--is the only way that this resolves well for the families and fighters. Or maybe Jordan gets "bribed" with not having to actually enforce the sanctions in exchange for allowing the last 50,000 people to move south and the US abandoning the base, relieving a border irritant with their soon to be whole neighbor Syria.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 11:26 AM
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This on the liberation of Mosul and its aftermath was good.

There was never going to be a good solution to Syria. Probably the best thing would have left the murderous Assad victorious and in place years and many tens of thousands of lives ago. As it is this is what's happening after all the carnage and destruction.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 11:35 AM
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6: for certain values of "good". Dear Jesus that was terrible even to read.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 12:51 PM
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6,7: Yeah, that's a miserable place to leave things.


Posted by: Mooseking | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 1:19 PM
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While on the topic of monstrous foreign policy, how is the US evading responsibility for what the Saudis are doing to Yemen right now, as we hold their coat?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 6:30 PM
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1 to 9.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 6:47 PM
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More seriously, much of the foreign policy community seems to have bought the Iranian Cold War story, so anything that can be painted as anti-Iranian gets a pass, and the Saudis of course know how to manipulate that. Why everyone else would be ignoring it, IDK. As to evading responsibility, you aren't. You'll be paying a price in jihadis and their sympathizers for many years to come.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 6:54 PM
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Well, at least Saudi Arabia is a liberal democracy that shares our values.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 7:10 PM
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12 Hey, they even made a robot a citizen!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 7:26 PM
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9 Especially when it is so easy to blame Obama for it (and I do), it's his worst legacy.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 7:27 PM
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Yeah, I blame Obama for it. I never did hear a cogent answer to the question "WTF are we doing?"


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 7:52 PM
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I also thought roughly 6.2 from the beginning.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 11-21-17 9:05 PM
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