Re: Accountability

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John Oliver is a national treasure.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 12:19 PM
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I'm also glad he did that. I wonder if that'll end up being the bulk of the price that Hoffman pays. I remember reading this piece about GWB, and how being shunned by a Yale audience was one of the things that stuck with GWB.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 1:56 PM
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The funny thing (for me) is that Dustin Hoffman considers himself a feminist hero because he dressed up as a woman in Tootsie.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 2:13 PM
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When this stuff about Dustin Hoffman came out someone linked this article https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/03/meryl-streep-kramer-vs-kramer-oscar
and browsing through it convinced me that he is just a horrible human being.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 2:20 PM
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Angry at the world is pretty much my state of mind right now, too. I think its time for me to take a break and create some stuff.


Posted by: zb | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 3:02 PM
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Christ, yes. I'm not really a fan of either actor -- I'll watch them but wouldn't seek anything out with either of them in it -- and didn't know any of this stuff, but yes, what a prick.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 5:42 PM
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4: Wait, Merril Streep dated Fredo, who died of lung cancer at age 41? I did not know this.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 12- 5-17 10:18 PM
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John Oliver is a national treasure.

One stolen from Britain by someone else, while for most national treasures it's the other way round.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 12- 6-17 2:51 AM
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4:
Words used by Michael Schulman to describe attractive women:
pellucid
crystalline
bankable
fragile
fragile
fragile

And, yes, Hoffman doesn't come out of it well. It's a dark version of the Marathon Man story ("Why don't you try acting, dear boy?")


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 12- 6-17 2:59 AM
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8 is great.

I was pondering last night whether Oliver would face any professional backlash from this. On the one hand this is very on-brand for him, and it doesn't seem like he crossed over any line as such (that is, he wasn't grandstanding, he wasn't making Hoffman out to be a monstrous caricature). OTOH, he made Iconic Star Dustin Hoffman very, very unhappy, and Hollywood is designed to protect Iconic Stars. It's hard to imagine that no one will want to punish Oliver in some way, and does he actually have the power or protection to prevent it?


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 12- 6-17 9:44 AM
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