Re: You Might Be The Baddies If

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That is really pretty impressive discipline there. She must have incredible confidence in the IDF. Catch someone doing that to a policeman in the US...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 12:59 AM
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Hell, the bloodhounds here will shoot unarmed women just for slapping a car. The article kinda buried the lede though -- much different story when you find out she had just seen her cousin shot in the head.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 2:43 AM
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3Well it's certainly fortunate she wasn't a paraplegic protestor.
Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 2:44 AM
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Messed up my link: https://www.google.com/amp/nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/israel-to-probe-fatal-shooting-of-palestinian-paraplegic/amp


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 2:44 AM
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I don't even know how you did 3, formatting-wise.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 6:48 AM
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1: For some reason, people fail to give credit to occupying forces for their restraint in front of cameras.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 6:55 AM
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Further to 6, folks like MLK and Gandhi counted on their opponents having at least some conscience. You don't pull that Mandela-style crap in Mao's China.

The British occupiers and the enforcers of apartheid in the US and South Africa are underappreciated for their discipline and decency. And the IDF just can't catch a break in public opinion, at least outside Israel.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:03 AM
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"1878-1963: Refrained from active genocide over 95% of the time" is a good thing to have on a resume.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:07 AM
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Bassem Tamimi said that minutes earlier, soldiers had fired a rubber bullet from close range at 15-year-old Mohammed Tamimi, a cousin of Ahed and a frequent guest in the Tamimi home. Rubber-coated bullets are commonly used to disperse crowds. While considered nonlethal, they nonetheless can be dangerous.

The teen remained in intensive care Wednesday after surgeons removed the bullet that had entered from his mouth and lodged in his brain, said officials at Ramallah's Istishari Hospital. The patient was alert after extensive surgery and would likely recover, they said.

Ah yes, the famous nonlethal bullets, which get lodged in people's brains and require extensive surgery for people to "likely" recover.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:10 AM
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Here's the video, which I think really brings home how little courage it took to confront the occupying soldiers after her cousin had been shot.

Note how the biased media mentions the shooting victim rather than all the people like Ahed Tamimi, who had nothing to fear because they weren't shot. And I can't find any discussion of how the kid got taken to the hospital. The IDF allowed that to happen -- and I wouldn't be shocked to find out it was the army itself that transported him. But where's the gratitude?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:34 AM
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The Times article seems a little too obsessed with the fact that she has blonde hair.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:57 AM
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I think it's pointing out that her distinctive look is giving her iconic status, making her well known to both foes and allies.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:00 AM
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Foallies?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:02 AM
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Right, they're obsessed with her follicles.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:25 AM
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Trump is threatening to cut off aid to countries that vote for the resolution against the U.S. recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. I think the IDF should probably be practicing for the coming war instead of worried about how to beat up protestors.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:27 AM
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15 Or when they're not shooting legless protestors in the head.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:53 AM
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I think the IDF should probably be practicing for the coming war instead of worried about how to beat up protestors.

That's how they practice.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 9:06 AM
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Has anyone found the original quote in Maariv yet?


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 9:09 AM
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17 Which is why Hezbollah gave them a hell of a beating in 2006.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 9:21 AM
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That is a shockingly monstrous quote, made all the more frightening by the fact that someone felt comfortable saying it to a reporter.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 9:22 AM
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It was a reporter (add scare quotes?) personally writing this in a column!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 10:07 AM
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Looks like this is the article. Google Translate:

Just like the story of the girls in Nabi Salah, restraint at this stage is the best solution to get out of the situation without harm. You can lose your nerve and go wild, which will lead to a huge frenzy from which no one will come out well, and you can try to contain the situation because there are no better alternatives. In the case of the girls, the price should be collected on another occasion, in the dark, without witnesses and cameras.
The Tamimi family needs to learn the hard way that such systematic provocations against IDF soldiers will cost them dearly, and the IDF has enough capabilities, creativity and means to produce such inputs without paying an exorbitant public price.

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 10:12 AM
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I assume that just like here the conservative press's views of what the military and police should do are much worse than the actual military and police.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 10:16 AM
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It's an opinion piece written by this senior columnist.

BEN CASPIT is a senior columnist for the leading Israeli daily, Ma'ariv, and a regular contributor to its weekend supplement. For almost thirty years, he has been a highly respected commentator on politics, diplomacy, military affairs, and the peace process. Caspit has anchored various television news programs and radio broadcasts for the past 15 years. He lives in Israel. Ben is the author of Netanyahu: The Road to Power and The Netanyahu Years.

https://us.macmillan.com/author/bencaspit/


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 10:33 AM
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22: Thanks. Wow.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 7:33 PM
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So, is the Israeli plan to have the Palestinians living under their thumb basically forever? Because that seems like a bad plan to me, on a number of levels.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 8:30 PM
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Does Israel have a plan at all? My impression is that they, like the US, have operational solutions lacking strategy and a military apparatus lacking political leadership.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 12-21-17 9:18 PM
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27: yeah, if Saab Erekat gets traction for Palestinians to push for a one state solution, that's the beginning of the end. After that, it's a slow grind until demographics become too much to control or Israeli extremists do something extreme.


Posted by: Frostbite | Link to this comment | 12-22-17 9:02 PM
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