Re: Guest Post - Surveillance Capitalism, but Different

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This sounds too complicated. Can't we just legislate Zuckerberg into decency?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 8:48 AM
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It is ridiculously complicated, yes. They don't seem to be offering a paid version in lieu of the adware, but that's probably just realistic.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:00 AM
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The sites themselves don't see any of this money, right? So it's solving a problem that doesn't exist (for me). I don't care all that much about tracking, and if I did, I could stop it without being shown ads. I don't like it, but it's, like, 10th on my list of issues with internet advertising. My problem is how to support sites I like without being subjected to shitty advertising/coding practices and browsing without being bombarded with malware.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:08 AM
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3: Which money?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:10 AM
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I have linked to Brave on here before:

https://brave.com/

It's longterm existence is contingent on believing, against all evidence, that people will be fine voluntarily converting to micropayments for accessing internet content, but until it folds it is a really well engineered browser that blocks ads and trackers.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:33 AM
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The money the advertisers are presumably paying.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:38 AM
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6: Cliqz gets a commission for successful ads. Whether Cliqz's clients ("partners" in their parlance) are ad networks or the actual advertisers (what you mean by "the sites"?) I don't know, but I assume the latter. If your concern is sites that get revenue from hosting ads unrelated to their own content, then no, Cliqz doesn't do anything for them.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:45 AM
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. If your concern is sites that get revenue from hosting ads unrelated to their own content

Yes, exactly. Why would I care about Cliqz and their clients?

I presume also, though I may be wrong, that this wouldn't address the issue of sites that block or otherwise hassle users using adblockers. How exactly are the ads delivered? In the places on the page where existing ads would be, or in a designated part of the browser window?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:52 AM
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8: Good questions. I've no idea. They are clearly trying to solve a problem for search engines and browser makers, not users.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 9:57 AM
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The local paper keeps demanding I whitelist them on adblocker before they'll let me see their news stories. I don't have adblocker installed so far as I know.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-19-18 10:09 AM
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10. If you use duckduckgo, some sites that demand whitelisting seem to interpret it as an adblocker. I haven't found a getround yet, mainly because I haven't yet been sufficiently bothered about accessing their content.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-20-18 8:10 AM
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I was just using Firefox and a bookmarked link.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-20-18 8:16 AM
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Some really weird shit going down in KSA right now, maybe an attempted coup.

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Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 04-21-18 11:54 AM
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Nobody I ever heard of is saying anything. All I know is that if it's a coup, I'm not behind it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-18 1:07 PM
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Supposedly they shot down a small drone that went through a checkpoint.

I can't help thinking "R2D2" but apparently this one was flying.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 04-21-18 2:58 PM
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In Lego StarWars, R2D2 can fly. Can't gain any elevation, but it can hold altitude across a reasonably long gap.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-18 5:01 PM
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Somebody broke Hulu. I blame coup plotters.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-21-18 5:33 PM
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Supposedly they shot down a small drone that went through a checkpoint.

Why, one asks, did they not use a war eagle?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-22-18 2:29 AM
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Not even on the news sites any more. (Which doesn't mean nothing happening.)


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-22-18 2:42 AM
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An eagle would never stoop so low.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 04-22-18 2:44 AM
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