I don't really feel like looking into it.
1: a ton of academic humanists; don't even get me started. (Everyone here excluded obvs.)
1 - surgeons.
Who is exactly in the middle?
For the upper left I was going to say "economists," but 4 has it right.
Not just surgeons, but a lot of technocrats. Lawyers, engineers, accountants.
I feel as if this should map onto Rommel's* smart/diligent quadrant, but it doesn't, at least not neatly.
*Schlieffen? Some bad German motherfucker.
8: Looks like an actually good WWII German motherfucker, but with the ridiculous name Hammerstein-Equord.
4: CNN broadcasters? Electricians?
Oh hm. I'll try to answer Mr. Smearcase.
Q: Who's in smart-incurious?
A: Oh, doctors, engineers, programmers ... *more people than you can shake a stick at*.
Most of the workforce at the new-fangled IT behemoths[*], for instance. And this isn't a smack against them: most of the workforce at the "big enterprise IT companies" is "dumb-incurious" [and that -is- a smack against them. Lord protect me from ever working for again.]
[*] I'm sure you can guess whom I'm referring to, but I won't be explicit, b/c sheeite, I don't really want their asshole lawyers to come down on me, and I'm sure the FPers feel the same.
There's an enormous amount of work that we call "knowledge work"[**]. Not "idea work", but rather "knowledge work". That is meant to signify that it requires lots of knowledge, but not much creativity. Or at least, the creativity is of a really non-creative sort. Think "emergency room doctor" [hell, MOST doctors] or "nurse" or "programmer at ". Their work is designed to minimize the requirement of creativity, and instead maximize recall of pre-digested knowledge.
[**] A CS prof buddy of mine says "knowledge work" is like "sex work". He's right, though obvs. sex work is worse. Still, ontologically the same kind of thing.
I said about 11 months into my time at , "After working here nearly a year, I'm less-prepared to interview here, than I was the day I did the interview". [I lasted my 13 mos, got my first-year cliff & bonus, so I don't cry about it, and I'm sure I'm a lucky one. The point is, those guys are just the "overpaid doctors" of our era. That's all.]
Smart-Inquisitive should contain people like scientific researchers, but then I think about the Higgs boson work and the hundreds if not thousands of people who made it happen by number crunching day after day through databases which probably make the google cloud look like some teenager's phone by comparison, and I wonder if they were actually Smart-Inquisitive and unbelievably self-disciplined or whether a lot of them were Smart-Incurious at the level that it was cool when they found something new, "but you know, I've got another ten thousand readings to get through here. Catch you later."
That is meant to signify that it requires lots of knowledge, but not much creativity. Or at least, the creativity is of a really non-creative sort.
Craft rather than art.
Dumb-inquisitive: credulous consumers of cosmetic therapies. I'm right now translating a supposedly serious presentation that refers to Gerovital as "attracting attention as a rejuvenation treatment from Romania, a nation that leads the world in anti-aging medicine." (NW's comment: Tell them Bram Stoker made it all up.)
Dumb-inquisitive: ducks in a barrel, but anti-vaxers, climate change "skeptics."
Dumb-incurious: Twitter users who retweet the latest tweet-storm bs.
Cannot BELIEVE no one else has proposed libertarians for the lower right.
A lot of them don't seem very inquisitive to me. They have their axioms and that's all they need.
There cannot be unnominated libertarians. If there were, someone would have nominated them.
17. attracting attention as a rejuvenation treatment from Romania, a nation that leads the world in anti-aging medicine.
"Does not contain ... wine." -- Dracula
"Wonderful for the skin." -- Elizabeth Bathory
18. Like many cults, they are more in square 1: "I know everything I need to know, and what I know is true: read this paper."
Where do audiophiles who buy $300 cryo-treated USB cables go? (Other than dumb-acquisitive.)
If they just bought cables, they're probably about to crawl behind the desk.
Also, I'm pretty sure that flat earthers and libertarians know they have views that are fucknuts. They are just trolling everybody or trying to leech off the common good while contributing nothing, respectively.
18: Engineers and programmers were mentioned, and they were correctly placed in the upper left.
It's tempting to put Trump supporters on the lower half, but the ones I know -- even the less educated ones -- are above-average bright. I'm not sure that "incurious" really captures their mental deficit. Intolerance is the common thread, and that does have a relationship with curiosity.
Yes. If you think I'm a piece of shit and wish to move America as far away from what I want as possible without having to get off your couch, voting for Trump was the smartest move you ever made.
It's so true though! #notallsurgeons #almostallsurgeons
28: When my ex was still in med school, we used to joke that he's too much of a tinkerer to make a good surgeon; he'd always be wondering "What happens if I connect this duct to that organ ..."
I'm somehat tempted to say that the four brothers in my family map one into each quadrant. (That's slightly unfair to the dumb/incurious one who isn't really dumb. But only slightly unfair, and the other three are spot on.)
"What happens if I connect this duct to that organ...
Good thing there's no way to misinterpret that and make a joke.
It's an entirely novel medical procedure.
I don't actually talk to many surgeons. I just know that they rejected our paper just because we pointed out that a particular surgery is probably pointless.
I didn't even try to submit the one about how castration anxiety is a major barrier to hip replacement surgery in men.
Just because you went to Michigan, you shouldn't sell your intellect short.
I honestly can't tell separate my own level of curiosity from my level of procrastination. If I'm under a tight deadline, I will feel suddenly feel the need to read entire Wikipedia articles that I probably wouldn't read if all I had planned that day was a nice walk.
40 implies that the professionally curious can only establish their true curiosity levels by leaving their careers in academia and journalism.
Anyway, I have a variety of complaints about doctors, but I mostly keep them to myself because they pay better than working with psychologists and worry less about my internet use that I think a government agency would.
I'd love a way to find doctors who are more curious, the few times I've had doctors who are genuinely curious I've really enjoyed it. It's pretty natural though that both the career track and the nature of the job kinda grind the curiosity out of you, so I don't really blame the doctors who are less curious. I just wish there was an easier way for me to find the curious ones.
(Here you basically don't get any choice in doctor because almost no one is taking new patients, so you're just stuck with whoever moved to town most recently.)
Fox News is a device for moving people from the bottom left quadrant to the bottom right. People who start off on the bottom left have the potential for curiosity, but in past ages it would have lain dormant, because the only triggers in existence were ideas too refined for them to perceive. Then Murdoch said 'Fiat Fox', giving us fun memes like 'El Salvadorean gangs are in your neighbourhood' and 'Eurabia'.
24: People in the NBA can't tell if Kyrie Irving is trolling with his flat-earther shit, or if he's serious.
Though I think trolling is like sales -- you end up believing your own pitch.
I'll believe that when Trump wears his own cologne.
If memes end up killing the enlightenment we may have to apologize for making fun of Dawkin's analogizing.
I thought I understood memes until the current trend of being busy, text-heavy, and deliberately badly formatted.
I'm sure it's not possible to simultaneously be in all four quadrants, but I picture myself on a string tacked to the center swinging in a pretty circle through each. I stall out in Dumb-Incurious more often than I ought to admit.
So, today I played incurious because I just didn't really want to get involved. There was a dead hawk (bigger than I expected) and a dead squirrel both laying on the sidewalk. Standing over them was a woman on the phone asking for a non-emergency number for a police to report this. I assume the hawk killed the squirrel but somehow (window collision?) died in the process. I would have like to have looked around, but I really wasn't sure I wanted to get involved discussing this with somebody who thought it was a police matter. Also, the squirrel was starring at me.
Sounds like the woman suspected fowl play.
Like maybe a duck killed both of them?
The woman killed both of them for trespassing. Hence, police.
Then she would have just called the emergency number.
But the threat had been neutralized.
Speaking of dubious reasons to call the police:
"Apparently, a parent on the tour called police because they were too quiet, that made them suspicious," Gray said. "They were trying to listen. Why should it be a crime to listen and not engage in a conversation?"
That's horrible, but still an improvement if Chivington if your baseline for Colorado.
There's gotta be some consequences for the people calling the police in these situations. You could kill someone that way.
Sounds like something someone dumb-inquisitive might do.
It seems to me that electricians could be quite curious. My boss is trained as a librarian and just married an electrician. I've only met him once, but I know she wouldn't stick with him if he were boring.
Maybe he got pregnant and she had to marry him.
She prefers dogs to kids. She got married once when she was younger and eloped this time. She'sd fiitrly nothaving kids. I'm pretty sure she would have him get a vasectomy if men could get pregnant; she had her tubes tied.
You can't just order men to get their nuts tied off.
Maybe librarians can. I don't know the extent of their authority.
64: There are 2 kinds of non-boring people: people that say interesting things, and people that don't talk at all. Since your boss loves dogs, my guess is that she like the non-talking kind of not-boring.
68 peep's right. Don't fuck with us.
You know that thing that happened to Abelard? He'd forgotten to return a codex to the scriptorium. They made up a more romantic story to spare hime embarrassment, but really, that's what it was.