Re: Guest Post - NMM to ETA

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As that great Marxist Lester Freamon said: follow the money.

I don't have a clear idea of where ETA got its money from, and that seems to me to be the crucial thing here. The IRA got the bulk of its money from organised crime in Northern Ireland and the ROI - armed robbery, smuggling and protection rackets - and it was able to carry out those crimes because it had widespread support from the local population (at least to the extent of not cooperating with law enforcement). That has changed now, due to better governance and police reform. In a way it makes more sense from an economic point of view to lump the IRA in with the Camorra and the Mafia, rather than with the Red Army Fraction.

The funding source for IS (just like Al-Qaeda) isn't in Europe so it doesn't really matter whether IS alienates European Muslims or not. The Tamil Tigers got most of their money from the Tamil diaspora; it would be interesting to consider how this affected their actions.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 8:45 AM
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Things fall apart?

The center will not hold.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 8:55 AM
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The IRA got the bulk of its money from organised crime in Northern Ireland and the ROI...

And Boston.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 8:58 AM
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I saw fund raising for them in the late 90s in Columbus, Ohio. I didn't donate, unless they got a cut of the beer concession.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 8:59 AM
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Anyway, I can't read a NYT article until June, so maybe this was mentioned, but I wonder about how well this success against ethnonationalism will last as the EU weakens. I think the EU made it much easier to put aside these fights.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:01 AM
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the Red Army Fraction

Deutschland uber denominator


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:05 AM
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Heh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:08 AM
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I always liked the Breton nationalist terrorists, who IIRC only blew up property, not people, for a sort of random cause ("Free Brittany?") that no one really believed in, except one time they hit a McDonalds and killed someone sort of by accident and then immediately denied responsibility. They should print up t-shirts as the world's lamest terrorist group.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:17 AM
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Also, they were known as the Breton Revolutionary Army, or BRA.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:18 AM
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Instead of cells, they worked in cups.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:19 AM
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See also their counterparts in Cornwall.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:22 AM
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the Red Army Fraction
Deutschland uber denominator

Not a typo: "Fraction" and "Faction" are two different things in Communist terminology. A Fraction is a part of the overall movement which is distinguished by representing a particular area, occupation or function. So you might have a communist movement which included a Scottish branch; they're the Scottish fraction. And the cell made up of railway workers is the railway workers' fraction.
A Faction, on the other hand, is a bad thing; it's a bit of the movement that disagrees with the rest of it and has split off. Factionalism is BAD.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:27 AM
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But surely the Red Army Fraction would be Bonapartist?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:34 AM
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Apparently, "Red Army Faction" is the standard English translation of "Rote Armee Fraktion." Which plays to the great Anglo-American tradition of not giving a shit about what the foreigners are saying.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 10:29 AM
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It's a hegemonic thing.


Posted by: OPINIONATED MICHAEL CERULARIUS | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 10:40 AM
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CERULARIUS CERULARIUS, CERULARIUS
CERULARIUS CERULARIUS,CERULARIUS
ROCK ME CERULARIUS


Posted by: OPINIONATED OUT OF METRE FALCO | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 10:48 AM
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LITERALLY ANYTHING LITERALLY ANYTHING
LITERALLY ANYTHING LITERALLY ANYTHING
LITERALLY ANYTHING LITERALLY ANYTHING
ROCK ME LITERALLY ANYTHING
WITH FREE VERSE I CAN DO WHAT I WANT


Posted by: OPINIONATED OUT OF METRE FALCO | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 10:52 AM
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Looks like der poetry kommissar's in town.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 11:06 AM
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Uh oh oh


Posted by: Opinionated Falco | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 11:24 AM
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1: I was thinking about the change in terrorist ideologies over time, but yes, there's that. Presumably gradually improving international police co-operation, plus globally increasing wealth and improving (I assume) policing have worsened the odds for terrorists, and I imagine there's been a gradual shift of terrorism to the worse-governed parts of the world.
AIUI diaspora networks are absolutely central to jihadi terrorism, presumably in more complicated ways than for the LTTE.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 11:41 AM
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SEP-A-RA-TIST SEP-A-RA-TIST, SEP-A-RA-TIST
SEP-A-RA-TIST SEP-A-RA-TIST, SEP-A-RA-TIST
BASQUE ME SEP-A-RA-IST

get into it


Posted by: OPINIONATED OUT OF METRE FALCO | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 11:55 AM
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Also, not to disagree that the logistics are crucial, but the politics of it isn't nothing. OP link 2 shows a pretty solid inverse correlation between popularity* and violence for both ETA and IRA, and indications that strategies changed as a result. OP link 1, and this, also suggest to me that ETA's decision not to switch to primarily non-violent politics in the 1980s was ultimately fatal. The ETA fraction which did go into politics is still around, occasionally in government.
*Though of course the quality of the popularity data aren't great.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-29-18 9:47 PM
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Mini-thread on another terrorist group that's not around anymore.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 4:42 AM
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OP link 2 shows a pretty solid inverse correlation between popularity* and violence for both ETA and IRA

I would think that the actions of the government being rebelled against would moderate that relationship. That is, people would be more accepting violence when it is more like a war the other side started and less like pure terrorism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:20 AM
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23: That's kind of incredible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:22 AM
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23: the Aetherians seem to be real but I can't find a good source on the ACT that isn't that blog... which seems to be somewhat imaginative.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:22 AM
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Have there been lots of pylons blown up? That would be the kind of thing that makes the paper.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:25 AM
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IIRC these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Liberation_Army weren't averse to blowing up a pylon or two. These guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Harvest_Commando were more about aggressive gardening.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:28 AM
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That's something only the British can pull off.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:29 AM
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http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_garden.htm


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:34 AM
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The whole idea of a "potting shed" seems strange. You just buy the plants already in pots.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:42 AM
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28: The supposed leader of the former was responsible for a bomb hoax campaign at the local university here a few years ago, when US schools were on high alert after whatever the latest unspeakable tragedy was. Very weird.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:57 AM
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I thought that guy was Irish.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:01 AM
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Read his Wikipedia page. He had been lying low in Ireland as it turns out sending letter bombs to the PM and royals isn't taken well in the UK.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:03 AM
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Maybe "lying low" isn't the right way to describe frequent bomb hoaxes.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:05 AM
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Hiding is hard.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:07 AM
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24: True. The period covered by that paper starts IIRC c1980, so after Franco and AFAIK the worst British policies.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:09 AM
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Thinking of using the profits from selling jazz CDs on eBay to start the Lost Lands Liberation League back up again.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:36 AM
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I wonder when my relatives stopped donating to IRA-related things. I suspect maybe with partition. We're kind of blandly status quo people once basic needs are met. Plus, you get to keep 100% of the money you don't donate.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 6:39 AM
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NMM to Arkady Babchenko is rescinded!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 8:21 AM
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By the time he is 50, every man should have faked his own death at least once.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 8:23 AM
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40: MM to him!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 8:33 AM
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42: Although I'm worried that his wife will kill him now.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 8:52 AM
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Honestly, is any fantasy more appealing than faking your own death and disappearing into the sunset with a suitcase full of cash? I mean sure that wouldn't solve all your problems but it would solve MANY problems.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 8:54 AM
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Shoudn't have gotten all these distinctive tattoos.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:08 AM
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Befriend a woman about your build who is poor and trusting. Get her to get the same tattoos, kill her, remove/mutilate face and fingerprints and teeth, leave body where a jogger will find it, and then remember that DNA testing is now a thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:12 AM
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Well, see, if that were my body dead, I wouldn't be able to remember anything.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:13 AM
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46 is pretty dark for Moby. I think all those ITV detective series must be affecting him.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:20 AM
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Actually, Sayers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:20 AM
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Honestly, it was Fletch.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 9:36 AM
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|| A client just sent me a copy of her book that the case was about, and I'm in the acknowledgements. I'm kind of surprised what a thrill this is. |>


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 2:34 PM
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It's an honor. I've never been acknowledged in anything longer than an article.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-30-18 5:12 PM
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Between the internet and DNA testing, it's getting to the point where you can't even abandon your family without notice and start a new life. Diminishes the set of choices.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:04 AM
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No: it's a Sayers short story about a dentist, honest.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:55 AM
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I recall the story well, but I saw Fletch years before I ever heard of Sayers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:57 AM
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|| Dinesh D'fucking-Souza! |>


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 7:17 AM
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You can't pardon for crimes against film making, just campaign finance.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 7:51 AM
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51: I have recently had that experience, and it's awesome. Speaking of mystery novels and other stories with plot twists, one of our esteemed commenters just wrote a book about how surprise functions in stories from a cognitive science perspective, and I'm in the acknowledgments for having helped come up with some examples in FB comment-thread discussions. The book is fantastic, and everyone should read it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:19 AM
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58: Didn't she ask us for examples here? I vaguely remember that.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:23 AM
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Congrats to said commenter! I saw on Twitter that it got media attention in New Zealand, and I spent an hour trying to figure out why that name sounded so familiar.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:28 AM
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The name sounds familiar because before it was a very rainy island with hobbits, it was the name of the island where most of the people in Denmark live.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:30 AM
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Wow!


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:30 AM
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It sounds great. Just purchased.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:32 AM
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Really, straightforwardly fascinating to a lay reader. The cog-sci angle is enough to be really interesting, but not thick enough to make you need a technical background to understand what's going on.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:33 AM
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Someone wrote a book about spoilers and it's filled with spoilers!

Looks good, will have to get it for the library.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:52 AM
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65: There's a breakdown of what works she will ruin for you. All you Tobias Smollett stans* are going to be mad!

* I guess it is vaguely possible that someone on this site, maybe AWB, would self-identify as a Tobias Smollett stan? All you people with your Peregrine Pickle cosplay, posting Humphrey Clinker memes to Smollettchat.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 9:56 AM
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Bouncing around the internet like tennis balls!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 10:00 AM
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Also, I was thinking about proposing a book group about this book (after the current book group).


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 10:13 AM
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Worst spoiler I remember was when I was going through the DVD set of The Shield from the library and being impressed with Walton Goggins' acting I looked him up on Wikipedia and there was a major spoiler for what was going to happen to his character in the very next episode there.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 10:14 AM
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I would be totally up for a book group. Let me put up the FoxSignal and run it by the author.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 10:18 AM
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Sure! I don't think I'd want to try to participate or respond, but if that doesn't bother you (it might be a selling point, even), go for it!


Posted by: fox-signaled | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 10:56 AM
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OT: Is there a way to indicate that you signed a letter without doing something like scanning your signature and pasting it in?

Like:

Sincerely,

X

Moby Hick

Is that a thing?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 4:36 PM
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Always your humble servant (IYKWIM),

X

Moby Hick


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 4:40 PM
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If you have a problem, yo, I'll solve it.

X

Moby Hick


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 4:51 PM
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I saw that book in a bookstore yesterday! It was very exciting.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 5:05 PM
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Dear teofile,

What bourbon do I like? I keep forgetting.

Your forgetful servant,

Moby Hick


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 5:06 PM
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Ezra Brooks.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 5:09 PM
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Thank you.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 5:10 PM
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You're welcome.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 5:15 PM
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Which looks less stupid:

Not signing a cover letter.
Printing the letter on paper, signing it, scanning it.
Scanning your signature and putting it in there as an image.
Putting an 'X' above my typed name.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:04 PM
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/s/ CharleyCarp


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:19 PM
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It's just a cover letter. I would think it isn't a legal document, so doesn't actually need a signature.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:20 PM
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81 is what I was looking for. Thanks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:23 PM
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I knew there was a way to type something that said, "I didn't forget that you're supposed to sign letters but I'm not going to even pretend this will ever see paper."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:28 PM
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Digitally signed by Moby Hick
May 31, 2018
Adobe Acrobat version 13.7.11.1010
Authentication key FF27947A8AD103BA67BB98C


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 6:50 PM
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For letters, I usually just use a scanned electronic signature on everything except electronic filings where the /s/ is used -- keep the image as a .jpeg or whatever and then put in through microsoft word. Looks good when you print to PDF and then send. Not to be too annoying.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 7:35 PM
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That has buy-in costs.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 7:36 PM
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>Scanning your signature and putting it in there as an image.

This is what I do. It looks good and no-one has ever had a problem with it.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 7:59 PM
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88 is what I do as well.


Posted by: Blank stare | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:07 PM
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That's what I did, but it was as a pain in the ass compared to typing /s/.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:07 PM
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Is there a name for the technique in 81?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:12 PM
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"federal court"


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:18 PM
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What if it's the letter of first instance?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:23 PM
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Linear A?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:24 PM
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It took me a second to sort out that 81 wasn't some sort of Perl command.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:47 PM
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I've just typed my name for cover letters sent as PDF and I've managed to get hired for jobs twice since 2013. Maybe with an authenticated signature I could have held even more jobs.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-31-18 8:58 PM
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In my industry everyone just uses the email as the cover letter and attaches the CV as Word/PDF. No signatures anywhere.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 2:58 AM
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Speaking of industry, the plan to subsidize coal is back in the news. I wonder what the WV polls look like.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 5:14 AM
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To show you're top executive material, do the thing where it ends with your initials in capital letters and your typist's initials in lowercase.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 6:07 AM
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I don't want to be an executive. I want to sit in a room and type in code on one screen and bad puns on another.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 6:11 AM
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At one point, I supervised three people. It really sucks to be responsible for somebody else doing something. This pain is only partially offset by the ability to off-load the shittier work onto someone else. I'm going to try to avoid "managing" if I can.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 6:13 AM
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80. I recently encountered a PDF form that had a signature box but accepted whatever you typed and just converted it to a "cursive" font. Props for that; most attempts at visible digital signatures (/points at Adobe's version) are ugly, too complex for most people, and time-consuming. Actually, my experience with PDF forms is that very few people who create them know how to set them up correctly.

To continue in this vein, I also discovered that Adobe Reader DC, the thing you get free with Windows 10, won't let you save forms until you turn off an unrelated check box on its Preferences page. Spoiler: under Edit/Preferences/General, turn off "Show online storage when saving files." I bothered to figure this out because as far as I can tell Chrome's PDF add-on only saves the base form and throws away the contents you entered.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 6:27 AM
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Chrome's PDF add-on is, in general, trash.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 7:38 AM
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This pain is only partially offset by the ability to off-load the shittier work onto someone else.

UR DOING IT WRONG.


Posted by: Brazen Hussite | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 12:26 PM
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OT: I'm trying to read Murder on the Orient Express so I won't be spoiled by Elements of Surprise. Poirot is kind of picky.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 4:44 PM
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That was me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 4:46 PM
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When they say, "understanding of project management methodology," is that just some bullshit I can fake or is that a real thing?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 5:05 PM
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I guess I don't care if it is a real thing or not. Only if I can fake it easily.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 5:07 PM
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Finally: Death guy on train.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 1-18 6:12 PM
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"Dead guy" not "Death guy". This is perhaps not an original observation, but Christie is kind of an asshole.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-18 8:14 AM
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Did you finish The Farthest Shore?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06- 2-18 8:25 AM
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Death guy for Christie


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06- 2-18 8:35 AM
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Not yet. I'm not about to spoil that. My son is almost through the first one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06- 2-18 8:35 AM
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Poirot is very much too Bayesian.


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