Re: I Really Don't Care

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Wait, was that jacket made out of Krauthammer?


Posted by: Grumbles | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 7:21 PM
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Pure Krauthammer.

Not to speak ill of the dead, but Krauthammer was a very unpleasant man.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 7:35 PM
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He beat the drums of war, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died. Had he died sooner, they may have lived.


Posted by: FB | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 8:22 PM
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I cannot fathom the jacket. I can understand that she doesn't care, but aggressively announcing that is not just neutrally not-caring. Making a point of saying that she doesn't care boggles my mind.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 8:31 PM
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I'm surprised she hasn't changed her name in order to distance herself even further from "melanin".


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 8:51 PM
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The honey badger in chief.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 9:03 PM
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Don't care, don't tell.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-21-18 9:06 PM
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It is just possible that she has so turned her back on politics that she meant it as a comment on Stormy Daniels (remember her?)
I bet she's worried more about that than whatever shit she's expected to do as flotus


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 1:42 AM
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1991: Message: I care.
2018: Message: I really don't care.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 1:46 AM
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It's just a jacket. Two plus two equals five. Michelle Obama wore jackets.


Posted by: Opinionated O'Brien | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 4:49 AM
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I found this piece, before jacket-honesty-gate, on Melania Trump's role in helping Trump's administration convincing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 4:58 AM
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Maybe Melania is a Demi Lovato fan. Terrible way to announce it, if so.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:11 AM
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Hey, whoops. That link was temporarily pointed at my wedding photos. Hope you enjoyed them!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:16 AM
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I had no idea. Congratulations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:24 AM
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11: Same.

It's all WTF. I was more inclined to ignore it (actually at first I was absolutely sure it was a photoshop) until DJT tweeted in with an obvious howler:

"I REALLY DON'T CARE, DO U?" written on the back of Melania's jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!

Makes me pretty certain that it was in some manner directed at him (maybe just that she was "forced" to do the trip...who knows?). She was originally slated to go to one of detention centers where the separated kids go but that was changed to a much more benign existing church setup which mostly handled actual unaccompanied minors.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:31 AM
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On Krauthammer, I thought the following sequence was priceless.

First line of the WaPo oped:

Charles Krauthammer, a Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post columnist and intellectual provocateur who championed the muscular foreign policy of neoconservatism that helped lay the ideological groundwork for the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, died June 21 at 68.

Reaction of fellow neocon Noah Pollok:

The opening *sentence* of the Washington Post's obituary for Charles Krauthammer blames him for the Iraq War. So petty and ugly (and inaccurate),

Felix Gilman's comment:

I want to send this tweet back in time to 2003 to let krauthammer know the iraq war is going to go so well that in the future just mentioning it in his obituary will be considered a low blow.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:47 AM
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Needs to be considered alongside the "pussy bow" wardrobe just after the Access Hollywood tape in Oct 2016.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:58 AM
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I will use this as a general purpose Friday WTF thread.

I was struck by the latest BS on the NK stuff from his latest televised cabinet meeting.

Trump:
They've stopped the sending of missiles, including ballistic missiles. They're destroying their engine site. They're blowing it up. They've already blown up one of their big test sites, in fact it's actually four of their big test sites. And the big thing is it will be a total denuclearization, which has already started taking place.

This just a day after Mattis had said there have been no signs of denuclearization. Trump through it to Mattis at the meeting who basically responded with silence. Pompeo was more accomodating, saying the Kim has his reputation to uphold. No one laughed out loud that I could hear.

The TV report I heard expressed puzzlement about why Trump and Mattis weren't in alignment and where Trump would ahve gotten that info. "Because Mattis is not a crazed narcissist" and "from his ass" were not offered as likely answers.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:06 AM
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10 to 18.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:14 AM
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Also Koko the gorilla is dead, because we can't have nice things.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:19 AM
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13: Congratulations, Stanley!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:23 AM
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Congrats Stanley!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:06 AM
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18: Out of the chimney of the collapsed unusable nuclear test site.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:12 AM
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OT, but I didn't want to go back and the find the thread:
The Robot-Uber that killed the woman in Arizona's human safety driver was watching the TV at the time of the accident.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:12 AM
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It's worse, Zara makes explicitly white supremacist clothing. I don't want to hear any shit about Melania being a prisoner ever again. She's a model, she knew exactly what she was wearing. Fuck her. Fuck them all.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:39 AM
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24 Also, and perhaps more importantly, the car "saw" her.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:44 AM
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The Robot-Uber that killed the woman in Arizona's human safety driver was watching the TV at the time of the accident.

That's quite a delayed possessive suffix. When I clicked through I was wondering why an AI would watch TV.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:02 AM
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27: We're not all cultural sophisticates, you know.


Posted by: Opinionated AI | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:14 AM
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Vaguely relevant to 28: did you know that in earlier versions of the script, the adult alien in the film Alien is described as "a mild, intelligent creature, capable of art and architecture, which lives a full, scholarly life of 200 years"? That would have been a much better film.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:44 AM
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Nah. Too long.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:46 AM
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I don't think you were watching closely. The art and culture were clearly there in how the chest-hole opened.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:48 AM
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It probably would have sipped lattes as well.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:49 AM
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Tagline: inside every blue-collar American, there is a liberal sophisticate trying to get out.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:52 AM
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33: If you doubt that, you need to watch the Happy Days episode with the Fonz playing Hamlet.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:54 AM
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I thought it was that the ivory tower are the true murdering monsters.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:55 AM
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In the end it turns out the true monsters were the friends we made along the way.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:00 AM
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Just like The Wiz.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:00 AM
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She's a model, she knew exactly what she was wearing.

Exactly. This is literally her only known skill set.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:03 AM
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On reflection I think it's an exercise in testing people's ability to disbelieve their lying eyes.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:18 AM
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Not testing. Practicing it. They already know who is going to do it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:21 AM
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I think Melania hates Donald very much and if you hate somebody that much you have to express it somehow.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:36 AM
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25: Holy shit.


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:40 AM
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White supremacist marries white supremacist. That's unpossible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:42 AM
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39-40: What do you call a dog whistle when it's really, really blatant?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:44 AM
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44: A whistle? A bull horn?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:46 AM
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So, I have a job offer. Should I take the first one or is that slutty? Partial difficulty is they want me to start ASAP, which would stop me from having any kind of a summer vacation.


Posted by: Gerald Ford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 9:53 AM
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46: Congratulations!

I'd give you some advice, but we should probably all wait for heebie to tell you what to do.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:04 AM
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44: A doghorn.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:13 AM
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25, 42: Jesus. My jaw dropped.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:14 AM
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46 Congrats Jerry!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:34 AM
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46: Congrats! It's surely not game theoretically maximal, but if the pay, responsibilities, and other properties are what you'd expect, I'd take it. (Then again, I was briefly looking for jobs recently and I turned down an offer, but that was because I decided I wanted to stay where I am.)


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:39 AM
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The pay is probably borderline-adequate for the tech industry, but also enough that I feel like I'm selling out.


Posted by: Gerald Ford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:44 AM
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Ah, yes, I know that feeling. The good news is that tech expects people to hop to a new job every few years, so in the worst case you can go to a new place in three years ago with more experience and more leverage to claim a higher salary.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:58 AM
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25, is that to do with the jeans with frogs on them? I believe them when the designer says it is an unrelated frog. They have sunglasses and a different mouth!


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:03 AM
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The frogs' mouths say no, the purse with the swastika and the prison-striped shirt with the yellow star say yes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:06 AM
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25: Huh. Thanks for that - Zara, is it. I remain mystified by Melania. (My absolutely most charitable self says that she doesn't speak English terribly well, and is likely easily directed by others, so perhaps had no idea what she was doing.)

It's been pointed out, also, that wearing a jacket in D.C. right now -- for your flight out to a detention center, and again for your flight back in -- makes no sense whatsoever.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:29 AM
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She's not a mystery. She's an active, significant participant in the Trump administration playing a role assigned to her to help sell her husband and defend him from backlash.

There is literally no reason at all to be charitable.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:33 AM
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and defend him from backlash

Yeah, and is she helping on that front? That jacket? I don't know what the right-wingers are saying about this, actually.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:46 AM
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They're saying, "Look at the mean liberals attacking the nice white woman with the nice blond kid."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:49 AM
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58.2 I saw something on Twitter which linked to some white supremacists lauding it. They know exactly what message is being sent and they love it.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 11:51 AM
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A brief review of conservative sites says 59 is right.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:05 PM
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57: It's really not that simple. If you agree with the article in 11, then Melania visiting Texas is a way of showing that the Fearless Leader has a softer side and will at times bend his iron will when his women plead to him.

But the jacket totally undercuts that message.

So maybe the idea is to send one message to the people that have misgivings about the cruelty of the policy, and another message to the people who love the cruelty of it?

Is that what you' think is going on?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:10 PM
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Yes. And the reason she can do that is because people seem to discount the wild idea that she married somebody she mostly agrees with and that she is willing to help achieve his aims (from which she directly and indirectly profits).


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:21 PM
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Also, she's just trolling the libs, which is how Trump gets votes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:22 PM
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54,55: colour me not entirely convinced about the other two Zara incidents, too. The swastika (in its original Hindu form, not the Nazi one) bag was from 2007 and the company withdrew it as soon as they received a complaint, saying that the swastika hadn't been present on the originally approved design from an Indian supplier. The pajamas look much much worse, but Zara said the design was intended to be a sherriff's star and again withdrew it immediately.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pajama-non-party/


Posted by: Ume | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:32 PM
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63: That may be true, but it's odd that she doesn't make more of an effort to seem to like him.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:33 PM
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What if she is and he's just too unlikable for anybody to do better?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 12:35 PM
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Talking about either Melania's personality or about poor immigrants, who many Americans view with distrust or worse, is bad for the November elections.
Basically any other topic that changes the subject from corruption and incompetence is to DJT's advantage, and he's good at media manipulation.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 1:00 PM
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68 is going to make for a relentlessly dreary five months here on Unfogged. Discipline, people.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:21 PM
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68: I dunno, the poor immigrants seem to be working pretty well as a political issue. People seem to have some kind of visceral reaction to parents being forcibly separated from children.

I suppose it depends on what you think of your kids or your parents, though.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:22 PM
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1. Trump calls immigrants animals
2. Press defends him, saying in context he meant #notallimmigrants
3. Trump says immigrants infest our country.

So maybe this will play out as:
1. Melanie wears offensive jacket from company with a lot of Naziwhoopsies
2. Big debate in press about True Meaning of her jacket
Hypothetical 3. Picture reveals that she donated some of the concentration camp chic Juden... I mean sheriff star shirts to kids in concentration camps.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:23 PM
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68 But immigration and immigrants poll very favorably. Something like 60+%.

I think we have to hammer him and the GOP on all fronts including this one.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:34 PM
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Who are they polling and will they show up on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:40 PM
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I'm worried because Trump managed to turn white resentment, some transparent lies, and a very low levels of support into the presidency.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 2:45 PM
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I don't think anybody really knows what will or won't be the thing that moves the needle on people hating Trump, other than the economy getting shittier.* So let a thousand flowers of critiquing the son of a bitch bloom.

*It's fairly encouraging that he's unpopular as he is given that the business cycle is where it is.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:39 PM
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Yes, all fronts. I still think the massive, open, and unprecedented corruption is key. Also, fuck it. Attack him for being able to build the wall.


Posted by: Gerald Ford | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:41 PM
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I mean, probably don't attack him for not building the wall if you're campaigning in San Francisco. But in West Virginia, have at it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:42 PM
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Presidents support me in email.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:47 PM
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Congrats Mr President! I say take the job.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 3:58 PM
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Jobs are a capitalist trap. Don't take it!


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 4:21 PM
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74: Well, yeah, but Obama didn't always tell the truth, and he stirred up a lot of white resentment, too.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:09 PM
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I am realizing that I have never in my life turned down an offer of employment.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:10 PM
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I struggle to think of a bad reason to hate Trump.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:15 PM
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There's probably a couple of million who hate him for not having started a genocide yet.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:23 PM
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Good! Maybe they'll be discouraged and sit out the election, or vote third party.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:29 PM
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In tonight's performance of "American Going To Shit" the role of Tom Arnold will be played by Tom Arnold.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:33 PM
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Does that need context? Because I have context.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 5:34 PM
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I assume Tom Arnold has a really large head, but mostly that picture makes it look like Cohen has an abnormally small face.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:07 PM
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I resent that article referring to the pee tape as "mythical." We all know it exists. "Legendary" would be the correct word.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:11 PM
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I heard it was just sort of piddling.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:34 PM
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If you want a real forceful stream, you need to find true love.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 6:39 PM
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Does thinking Alito might be right about Ortiz mean I should take some time off?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:02 PM
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It won't help. The world's still fucked regardless of how well your head is doing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 7:29 PM
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https://overland.org.au/2018/06/a-brief-fascist-history-of-i-dont-care/

Has this been mentioned. I'm skeptical that it's a coincidence.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 8:48 PM
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Oh please, like anyone in the fashion industry has even heard of Italy.


Posted by: Lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-22-18 10:07 PM
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I don't care much


Posted by: Melania Trump | Link to this comment | 06-23-18 1:21 PM
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