Re: Slow news day

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Cohen only paid the guy 13K and an MMA glove and pocketed the rest.

Perfect.

In this same vein, I'm thinking of watching Netflix fyre festival documentary tonight. It seems inarguable that if the fyre festival guy weren't in prison he'd be working in the White House today.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:30 PM
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Reiterate I'd love some lawyer insight into Barr and his memo and testimony.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:31 PM
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Not that I'm impatient or anything. It's only the fate of your Republic.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:32 PM
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The Fyre documentaries look worthwhile, but all the comparisons I've read boil down to "they're both good, each have their pros and cons, neither is clearly the better one to watch" which is frustrating.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:46 PM
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It just occurred to me: the fyre festival is the subject of a sober sign-of-the-times documentary; the Theranos story is being made into a feature film as a crime thriller.

Where's the wacky screwball comedy about Juicero? Someone in Hollywood needs to get on this.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:53 PM
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"You don't get to squeeze 500 million pouches without making a few enemies."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:57 PM
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I don't think they ever squeezed that many pouches.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 12:59 PM
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History repeats, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

When does it stop repeating? Is there one specific tragedy this farce is a repeat of, or several, or what? Does it necessarily repeat on the same scale, and if not, in which direction is it more likely to go? Are we somehow getting both at once?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 1:14 PM
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8: I don't think Marx intended for that line to be taken so seriously.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 1:20 PM
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Still live on Twitter @WomenforCohen

https://twitter.com/WomenForCohen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E774734029421703174&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fslate.com%2Fnews-and-politics%2F2019%2F01%2Fmichael-cohen-tech-firm-trump-polls-fan-account.html


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 1:23 PM
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9. All of Marx's works are out of copyright, so no problem.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 1:41 PM
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And he would be obliged to waive anyway, right?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 1:43 PM
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Where's the wacky screwball comedy about Juicero?

"You know, for kids. Or other people who can't squeeze a bag."


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 2:39 PM
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The Fyre documentaries look worthwhile, but all the comparisons I've read boil down to "they're both good, each have their pros and cons, neither is clearly the better one to watch" which is frustrating.

Vox says the Netflix one is better.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 3:11 PM
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AV Club too.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 4:12 PM
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Didn't the Netflix one have one of the organizers involved as a producer?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 9:41 PM
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Yeah, but it was the FuckJerry guy, who seems to have had a fairly peripheral role in hyping the thing, at least according to Vox.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-17-19 10:21 PM
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Also, the Hulu one apparently paid McFarland a load of money for an interview. Fuck that.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 1:26 AM
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It's Friday before a three day weekend, the stories of suborning perjury are circulating, and I'm wondering if something really appalling isn't going to drop at the end of the day in hopes it will be buried.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:18 AM
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Good thing you don't spend your weekends blackout drunk and wandering the woods.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:21 AM
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The news cycle still works assuming people still did that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:22 AM
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They'll never see you coming.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:24 AM
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Anyway, eight inches of snow in the woods isn't that bad, but two inches of snow followed by freezing rain followed by more snow isn't a good time to be drunk with nature.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:30 AM
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Pittsburghers have 78 words for shitty weather.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 7:07 AM
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Grown adults will say absurd things like "slippy" instead of "slippery" if there is ice on the sidewalk.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 7:41 AM
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Kids nowadays will use "rapey" or "stabby" to describe people who seem inclined to that sort of thing.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 7:57 AM
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I need to stock up on food. We're in for mixed snow and rain on Saturday followed by a massive drop in temperature on Sunday. Ice, hooray.

My plan to watch Fyre last night failed because apparently it is being released today.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:07 AM
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Trump and Fox announced another caravan today. I imagine there are warehouses full of people in Central America and every time another impeachable offense is revealed Trump pushes a button and a thousand people are released towards the US. (I realize there probably aren't any people actually coming, or at least no more than the usual flow, and Trump/Fox [but I repeat myself] call it a caravan whenever they need a distraction.)


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:37 AM
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Give them CB radios and call it a convoy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:40 AM
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I'm surprised the current administration hasn't brought back the color-coded alert system, designed by the Bush administration to detect whether Kerry was polling better.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 10:46 AM
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Why would Muslims illegally crossing the border leave their prayer rugs at the border? It's not like the commandment is to pray five times a day only when in Mexico.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 11:35 AM
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Funny how their are no pics in this day of ubiquitous cell phones.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 11:38 AM
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Impressive that Klobuchar lined up her questioning of Barr an admission that suborning perjury to Congress by the President would be a crime. (He probably has different opinions on whether that's prosecutable, and is ready and willing to cover everything up, but it's good video.)

Also I'm intellectually satisfied at the better explanation that has emerged of what should trigger impeachment: behavior showing that unless removed, the President is going to continue to use his powers to subvert the rule of law and cement his power in his favor. So they don't have to be literal crimes, they can be maladministration, but it has to be a certain subtype or either. This explains why Clinton shouldn't have been impeached, with more specificity than "the crimes, if any, weren't of that level of seriousness", which was the best I was able to articulate it in the past.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 12:07 PM
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33: Did you read Yoni Applebaum's article in the Atlantic? I read enough of it to be convinced.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/impeachment-trump/580468/


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 12:10 PM
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Re: Clinton, if I remember correctly the lawyers around here have said that he didn't actually commit perjury at all, right? For two reasons. First, he said "I did not have sex with that woman", in a context where "sex" had been very carefully defined to only include intercourse, and second, because what the person is lying about must be material to what the person is under investigation for, and Lewinsky wasn't material to Whitewater. Still dishonest of him in a moral sense, of course, but a non-president probably wouldn't have been convicted in a criminal court on those grounds.

I could easily be misremembering minor details and maybe major ones, sorry, not going to look this in more detail on a work computer. But does that sound familiar to anyone?


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 12:36 PM
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34: Yes, I read that, but I think I was more directly thinking about something in JMM.

Applebaum's article was good in many ways, but I was super-annoyed at one of the tacks it took, "You should worry about Trump because he's threatening the institution of the imperial presidency!"


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 12:45 PM
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Trump attempts to displace headlines by announcing another meaningless meeting with Kim Jong-un.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 1:04 PM
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35: I don't remember the details well enough to argue it, but yeah, something like that. I'd say strongly and confidently that no one would ever have been criminally prosecuted for comparable lying -- calling it "perjury" is something that could be argued over, calling it something that would have led to a criminal conviction in any plausible circumstance is just wrong.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 1:13 PM
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33.1 Yeah, I've totally come around on this. I was convinced earlier by Josh Marshal's argument against impeachment and in favor of the slow bleed by a thousand cuts of congressional hearings and investigations. But I now think the House needs to begin impeachment proceedings immediately.

Chimpeach the Chimperor!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 1:39 PM
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38: After listening to Slow Burn I wondered if it could be argued that he suborned perjury -- it seemed to me he definitely was urging Lewinsky to lie about their relationship.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 1:41 PM
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35: The question is whether it was material to the investigation of Paula Jones' accusation, which was a lot more specific than just generic Whitewater. Showing a pattern of pushing female employees for sex might be relevant there. The actual facts of the Lewinski relationship (where she initiated some pretty overt flirting at the President, and engaged in a consensual relationship) don't support Jones all that well, but a different fact pattern might, and lying about the relationship prevented that from being investigated.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 4:10 PM
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The "rule of law" frame sweeps away all that, honestly, tedious rehashing. Whether it was a crime or not, or a crime-that-might-ordinarily-be-prosecuted or not, Clinton's stuff revolved around covering up personal-life embarrassments. Whereas Trump has consistently been abusing power in a way deserving impeachment, and that would still be the case even if he had somehow crafted his actions to avoid crossing any statutory line.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 4:19 PM
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I have just been struck by an idea, which pleases me. I shall call it the Zombie Index, and it runs thus: the dysfunctionality of a developed democracy is directly proportional to the degree to which that democracy's public discourse is concerned with zombie issues; that is, by disputes which which have by any reasonable empirical standard been conclusively resolved, and yet continue to be discussed.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 4:24 PM
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32: There was a pic of the prayer rug the last time they made up this story in 2014. It turned out to be a soccer jersey. It had Adidas stripes on it.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 5:28 PM
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All Day I Dream Allah Said....


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 5:30 PM
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Anyway, Journey is the thinking person's Foreigner. Always a classic.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 5:31 PM
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adida(pbuh)s™


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 6:06 PM
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Mike and the Mechanics are the thinking person's Mr. Mister.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 7:20 PM
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:20 PM
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So much shaky cam.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:23 PM
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Hawke is the hipster Hamlet, basically.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:25 PM
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I think I'll watch till Bill Murray gets shot.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:28 PM
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Schrieber does a creepy Laertes.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:30 PM
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Murray too. And Stiles a weirdly flat affect Ophelia.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:32 PM
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Coffee not Pabst. But shitty stupid hat.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:34 PM
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Did Shakespeare actually write polonius for someone he hated, so the audience would throw horseshit at him?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:39 PM
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Really, those hats people wear on the Altiplano.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:42 PM
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Murray super creepy. Is he fitting her with a wire or just feeling her up? This his daughter.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:50 PM
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Yes, a wire. Still totes creepy.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:52 PM
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I feel like this stock footage is full of references I don't get.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 8:58 PM
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Murray is good at getting shot.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:04 PM
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They're standing around in a laundromat talking about disposing of dead bodies. A laundromat employee is just sitting right there.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:12 PM
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The pilot is wandering around the passenger cabin drinking. Did they use to do that?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:16 PM
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Worst gallery opening ever.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:19 PM
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Laertes very creepy.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:20 PM
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Kyle McLachlan is good. What happened to him?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:28 PM
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Fax machines. Stiffy disks.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:33 PM
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I remember that I watched that movie because my high school English teacher gushed about how "postmodern" it was when it came out. (From her, this was always a term of the highest praise.) I don't actually remember the movie much, though, although the laundromat part rings a bell.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:37 PM
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The king's bodyguards suck.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:45 PM
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It's super meta but not really in a good way. Like if I didn't know Hamlet already I'm pretty sure it would be incoherent garbage.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-18-19 9:51 PM
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66 He's still making movies, and most notably starred in Twin Peaks: The Return a couple of years ago.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 2:24 AM
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70: It's just copied from The Lion King, minus the happy ending.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 5:44 AM
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Have you written your congresscritters?

The bipartisan "Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act," put forward Thursday by U.S. Senators Marco Rubio of Florida and Bob Menendez of New Jersey, would dedicate new resources from the U.S. State Department, FBI, and other intelligence agencies to documenting abuse of Uyghurs and other ethnic Muslims in the XUAR, as well as Beijing's intimidation of U.S. citizens and residents on American soil.
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A complimentary bill--HR 649--was proposed Thursday by U.S. Representatives Chris Smith of New Jersey and Tom Suozzi of New York, who warned in a statement that the XUAR has "become nothing short of a police state" and urged fellow lawmakers to "take a stand against this violation of human rights and show the Chinese government that this is unacceptable."


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 5:58 AM
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Pretend that was humorously delivered by the benign, non-judgemental figure of Bill Murray or Mads Mikkelsen.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 6:11 AM
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Watched half of Fyre last night. It's good so far, but no real surprises. It's impressive how many of the people they interviewed perfectly match my stereotype of what someone involved with something like Fyre would look and act like.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 6:17 AM
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66: He was a supervillain on Agents of Shield a couple of years ago. He was good, too.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 6:24 AM
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Do white-tail deer understand windows? Like if they see their own reflection, would they be tempted to charge it? If they saw a person on the other side staring at them, would they realize they could just jump through the thing?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:01 AM
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You may well be the commenter best placed to find out.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:09 AM
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That's a very big deer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:15 AM
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It's just staring. I don't want to shut the blinds because I work better with a bit of natural light.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:16 AM
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It's probably for the best that I opened the blinds instead of raising them. Now I look like I'm protected by bars.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:21 AM
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He's sleeping now. Or at least closed his eyes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:28 AM
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All I can say is, thank God for the Fourth Amendment.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:30 AM
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What if he gets a warrant?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:37 AM
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Stand your ground. Pre-heat the oven.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:45 AM
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There's at least four deer out there. Only one is watching me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:58 AM
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Do you have a chest freezer?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 9:10 AM
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There were as many as five and they were eating various plants.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 10:00 AM
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Past tense. So the freezer is big enough.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 10:05 AM
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Yet this contestable division of provincial space was not entirely the product of conflicting human ambition, for behind the clamor of its tribal and imperial creators rises the relentless whine of mosquitoes.
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 10:17 AM
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Still there. I'm going to get Lyme disease if these things don't leave before spring.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 11:15 AM
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I guess they're going to spend the whole day there.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 1:28 PM
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92. How late does bow hunting season run?


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 5:23 PM
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It's started on time every year.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 5:32 PM
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I have a compound bow in the basement. No arrows though.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 5:59 PM
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THE COMPOUND BOW IS THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE.


Posted by: OPINIONATED MONGOLS | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 6:29 PM
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What happens if a deer dies in your yard and you don't want to eat it?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 7:39 PM
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Just leave it out on the sidewalk. Someone will take it.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-19-19 8:17 PM
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Moby or someone asked about Chinese real estate bubbling a while ago. This isn't that, but it's adjacent.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 01-20-19 11:18 AM
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That doesn't sound like, but it is interesting.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-20-19 12:25 PM
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