Re: Guest Post - Amy Klobuchar

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Back in the days of sanity, there were a lot of pieces in the press about how Gordon Brown while at the Treasury was a violent, terrifying tyrant who threw phones at people.
(All these stories were false; my own friends at the Treasury described him as slightly socially awkward but a pleasure to work with, and all the female ones seemed to have mild crushes on him.)
So, yes, male politicians do get this kind of hit piece written about them.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 8:22 AM
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Steve Jobs got similar (if more extreme) comments from subordinates for both for his tyranny and the results he got. (To my mind the tyranny was clearly counterproductve, and the praise smelled frankly of Stockholm Syndrome.)


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 8:30 AM
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Swedish perfume names are weird.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 8:34 AM
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The nature of the allegations are subjective, and there's no baseline to make a fair comparison with other Senators or other presidential candidates.

From the story:

Klobuchar's office consistently has one of the highest rates of staff turnover in the Senate. Klobuchar's rate of turnover ranked No. 1 in an analysis of all Senate staff salaries between 2001 and 2016, conducted by LegiStorm, a widely used database of congressional staff salaries. (Klobuchar was sworn into office in 2007.) She's now third, behind Maryland Democrat Chris Van Hollen and Louisiana Republican John Kennedy.

Third over what period, I wonder.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 8:46 AM
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Staff turnover is a pretty good metric to use for a toxic workplace.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 8:58 AM
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5: Exhibit A -- the Trump White House.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 9:04 AM
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Staff turnover is a pretty good metric to use for a toxic workplace.

I agree, and the reason why I passed the article along is that it does offer enough evidence that it doesn't just feel like gossip. And I would like to know if a prominent politician (or businessman) consistently treats their staff badly, and yet, it still feels uncomfortable (and your comment 1 adds to my feeling that it's difficult to know how many grains of salt should be applied to the story)


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 10:01 AM
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I'm inclined to believe the worst because I've decided I dislike Klobuchar based on her BDS vote.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 10:02 AM
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That sounds so dirty I don't even want to know what it stands for.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 10:15 AM
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9: It's dirty, alright! BOYCOTT DIVEST SANCTION -- kinky!

Klobuchar is the only of the Democratic Senators running for President to vote for it. I guess that means she'll be dueling with Biden for the Jewish pro-Israel vote.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 10:21 AM
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Bezos Dirty Selfie.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 10:28 AM
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Atrios posted about this. https://www.eschatonblog.com/2019/02/the-boss.html


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 11:11 AM
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Hey, this is on-topic, Cassandane is a Congressional staffer and trying hard to get out, mostly due to a toxic environment. Based on 2 minutes of following the links, I'd have to subscribe to Legistorm (or get a free trial, but that's still more effort than I want to go through right now) to see exactly where her boss ranks, but it sure sounds bad at home.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it here before and it came up at the meetup a few months ago in DC. She's still stuck there but is looking even harder now. When talking about this with people, I usually avoid details, both to be discreet and to be impartial. (As for discretion, there's nothing definitely newsworthy, I just am careful about gossip. As for impartiality, it might be dumb about my wife's job, sometimes I'm the kind of person who won't take his own side in an argument, but anyways.) If anyone wants objective details, here's one: she took a calculated risk and told her boss she was looking and asked if he could promote her or at least be a reference. Since then, he has given her a deadline to quit, for no apparent reason.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 11:36 AM
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Atrios posted about this. https://www.eschatonblog.com/2019/02/the-boss.html

Thanks. That's enough for me to answer the question in the OP and feel good about the article as quality political journalism.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 11:55 AM
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she took a calculated risk and told her boss she was looking and asked if he could promote her or at least be a reference. Since then, he has given her a deadline to quit, for no apparent reason.

Jesus.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 12:28 PM
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10: you can just say "pro-Israel," or better yet "pro-Likud/Netanyahu." Plenty of gentiles are passionately so.


Posted by: Mr. F | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 3:50 PM
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Unseemly so, even.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 3:54 PM
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I don't think the gentile pro-Israel vote is likely to be a major factor in the Democratic primary. Especially this cycle.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 4:02 PM
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The big vogue puff-piece from earlier in the month has a big section about what a great boss she is, and how much her staff loves her. So I wonder if someone made some calls to "set the record straight".


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 5:23 PM
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I can't help thinking that being gratuitously on Team Likud vs the ACLU is... possibly not uncorrelated with a possibly less than ideal attitude towards bullying in general?


Posted by: edna k. | Link to this comment | 02- 8-19 6:54 PM
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This article is kind of an example of a reporter working on a story and failing to really nail it down but publishing anyway because a lot of time was spent and you have to have something to show for it. No one was willing to confirm any really bad stories.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 02- 9-19 9:39 AM
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working on a story and failing to really nail it down but publishing anyway because a lot of time was spent and you have to have something to show for it

This is giving me flashbacks to some past projects with grad students.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 02- 9-19 7:04 PM
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Reminds me of being a graduate student, except I wasn't very good at it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02- 9-19 7:19 PM
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"The prophecy of the beginning and end, rise and fall, of Kökenuur came to fruition and a rain that was neither goats nor sheep fell."
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 7:59 AM
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That's your rain usually works around here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 9:04 AM
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Your should be how.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 9:19 AM
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I saw that Pitchfork had a list of the greatest 200 albums of the 60s, so I was curious what they put at number one. They have "Velvet Underground and Nico", which may be the most on-brand thing I've ever seen.

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Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 10:06 AM
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This one time at a small party, I met the host's cat, and when I was told the cat's name, I said, "Oh, Neko. Like Neko Case." And the host looked horrified/hipsterer-than-thou and said, "No, Nico. From the Velvet Underground." And then I told him I'd never really gotten into the Velvet Underground, and he promptly died of shock.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 10:37 AM
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I've been pronouncing her name wrong all this time.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 10:43 AM
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"No, Nico. From the Velvet Underground."

"Who?"

"You've never heard of Velvet Underground?"

"I'm not into jazz, old man."


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 11:06 AM
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The other one. I thought it was like in the wafers. I love VU (but I would have voted for "Forever Changes")


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 11:17 AM
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So I've decided that, while I would love Elizabeth Warren to be President, what I really, really want her to be is Treasury Secretary. Put her in a spot where she can have all her focus on restructuring the economy without all the other Oval Office shit that would distract her from her mission.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 11:55 AM
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It would have been better if it was neko, like the Japanese for cat.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:07 PM
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"Cat Wafers" sound menacing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:24 PM
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A limping quadruped is just the saddest thing.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:30 PM
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That's why I never eat frog legs without eating the rest of the frog.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:33 PM
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31: I was guessing it would be "Forever Changes", since that's the "I know 60s music better than you" answer.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:45 PM
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I've been thinking about this (the OP) and decided that people staffing political offices are probably like me back before I gave up ambition. Therefore, Sen. Klobuchar can be as harsh as she wants with her staff because they probably deserve it. Except for present company and their spouses/partners.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 12:59 PM
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Cat Wafers" sound menacing

After he converted he changed his name to Wafers von Islam.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 1:20 PM
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Heh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 1:23 PM
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"Having mixed blood with gold dust, the children of demons and hungry ghosts will run and jump about. The waves of the ocean will froth in turmoil."


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 1:48 PM
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32: That would be okay for bank regulation, but does the Treasury Secretary have any special influence over decisions to overhaul tax rates, at the soak'em Piketty/Saenz levels needed right now? I think that's something the President would more or less have to drive, in tandem with Congress. Treasury Secretary would have a seat at the table, sure, and have a lot of influence over implementation - probably great at rooting out tax havens! - but I'd still prefer her heading a congressional committee, for the longer term.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 5:21 PM
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I saw Amy Klobuchar today came out strongly against gridlock in Washington. Brave!


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 5:58 PM
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Standing outside in the wind is a good way to keep Trump away.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 5:59 PM
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42: Sure, I love her in the Senate but its hard to be transformational in the legislative branch. I'd love to see what she could do if she was at the head of the department that includes the IRS. And she can revive the CFPB at the same time.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 7:43 PM
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Underfunding the IRS isn't just hurting because rich people can cheat on their taxes. When you get identity-thefted, it takes forever to sort it out even when it was really obvious you were identity-thefted.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 8:04 PM
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I once saw a pitch from a startup that was going to use "digital identity" to resolve the IRS's identity theft issue. Apparently the IRS has a big problem with scammers submitting other peoples return and collecting the tax refund. But with this company's services that wouldn't happen anymore because something something blockchain.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 8:45 PM
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The IRS was really good about figuring out it was fraud. They sent me a letter saying that somebody filed a tax return using your ID and we know it wasn't you. The hard part was getting them to accept my real return.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 9:01 PM
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Well, good they caught the fraud, at least. Imagine what they could do if they had resources.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-10-19 11:15 PM
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I think Klobuchar's strategy of boring her way to the nomination is unlikely to succeed.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 12:55 AM
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I'm right here.


Posted by: Opinionated Al Gore | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 5:52 AM
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https://www.maritime-executive.com/editorials/a-market-niche-seeking-a-transportation-technology

One guess what the technology is.
Routes suggested include San Francisco-Sydney, trans-Arctic, Bristol-La Guardia. And it suggests that they should be unpiloted for most of the journey, with crew arriving only to guide it into harbour. This, at least, produces much scope for haunted-house stories.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 7:01 AM
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Apparently one of the anonymous stories going around that presumably this article's writer could not get someone to speak to them about is that Amy Klobuchar struck a staffer with a binder.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:05 AM
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That's wrong now?


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:06 AM
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Stupid phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:07 AM
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Obviously, opening the binder and hitting somebody with the open rings is wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:08 AM
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Yeah. You can't get any speed up with that much drag.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:09 AM
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Obviously, opening the binder and hitting somebody with the open rings is wrong.

Well, yes. All the women would fall out of it.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:15 AM
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I think Klobuchar's strategy of boring her way to the nomination is unlikely to succeed.

Really? Because I think boring neoliberal centrism is what a huge proportion of the Democratic party craves. Al Gore has already spoken up, but it worked for John Kerry too.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:54 AM
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I want to vote for a woman because I know that having a woman as president will cause actual pain to a non-trivial number of Trump voters I'm a feminist.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 9:57 AM
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60 is a good point. No need to worry that, like Trump, she might get into office and then not hurt the right people; she'll hurt them simply by existing.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 10:12 AM
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Anyway, Minnesota is basically the same as Iowa, at least the populated parts. She'll probably have an edge in the early states.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 10:14 AM
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Is AK the source for the stories?

Not so Minnesota Nice!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 10:57 AM
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Me, writing from Minnesota.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 10:57 AM
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OT:

"Developing a happiness-optimised day schedule", Kroll & Pokutta (2013).
https://ideas.repec.org/a/eee/joepsy/v34y2013icp210-217.html

Derived from day-diary research on 900 employed women in Texas, using marginal-utility calculations.

16 waking hours, or 960 minutes, comprised of:
Commuting:33 minutes.
Work: 36 minutes.
Napping: 46.
Childcare: 46.
Housework: 47.
Computer: 48.
Preparing food: 50.
Watching TV: 55.
Shopping: 56.
On the phone: 57.
Exercise: 68.
Prayer/meditation: 73.
Eating: 75.
Relaxing: 78.
Socialising: 82.
Intimate relations: 106.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:08 AM
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65 Seems about right.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:14 AM
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I wish I could be employed at 36 minutes work a day.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:14 AM
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Unless "relaxing" is a euphemism, they're going to be really uncomfortable about half way through the second perfect day.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:15 AM
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Or shitting during sleep, I guess.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:16 AM
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65 is absolutely wonderful. Texan housewives think that prayer is more fun than work or chlld care, but sexytime is the best of all, even better than gossip! Let them have that schedule for a month and then test them again


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:31 AM
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70: They were going to do this, but they couldn't get enough grant money together to pay the gigolos.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 11:34 AM
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What this blog needs -- what Humanity demands -- is a selfless Texan volunteer.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 12:04 PM
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71: I was making heterosexist assumptions. I am ashamed.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 12:09 PM
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70: not housewives- they were all employed. And this is not the average of what they _said_ would be an ideal day; it's a schedule that's been optimised using inferred marginal utility data.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 12:10 PM
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But if it's inferred that makes it more revealing, surely


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 3:56 PM
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Definitely.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 02-11-19 5:01 PM
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Ekranoplan!

Docking at LGA? Ha! Just because it once hosted seaplanes?


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 02-12-19 1:38 AM
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Seaplanes, plus existing cargo handling capacity, I think.


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