I liked "Not Another Teen Movie," which was really not critically acclaimed, but is over 50% for the audience rating.
Tremors 3 (the first of the series after 2000) is weird because it has an audience rating lower than the critic rating. And honestly, it really wasn't very good.
Ghost Rider. That was easy. There are lots more movies that I feel good about, and assume they'd have a low rating, but I haven't checked and I saw them so long ago that I wouldn't trust my feelings about them. But, Nicolas Cage turning into a demon with a flaming skull? Peter Fonda as Satan? It almost feels like cheating to put on this list.
Peter Fonda also played Satan in a Thomas the Tank Engine movie.
Chronicles of Riddick (29%); Smokin' Aces (30%); Den of Thieves (41%).
Blackhat (33/24%); Miami Vice(46/43%).
Can you offer slightly more of an opinion? My reason for suggesting this post was to get possible movie recommendations and that's not enough to make me interested in, say, Black hat (which looked terrible).
I'm still yet to find one, but I have found a bunch of terrible movies to watch ironically.
Including this, speaking of Tremors.
I enjoyed Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters (14%), but I couldn't make anything like a decent defense of it. I likes the brother & sister dynamic, I liked that the movie kept moving whether or not the plot made sense, and at the time the diabetes-gives-you-superstrength subplot amused me. There must be movies closer to 50% that I love and would defend.
I don't watch that many movies, so I'm risk-adverse with respect to quality. Thus I had a lot of trouble with this. Even the unpopular movies I've seen recently (e.g. Juliet, Naked) reviewed well. I scrolled through the list of all under 50% movies, giving up after having gone through the last five years. The only one I had seen was Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, which I didn't enjoy.
Miami Vice at 46%? I thought critics liked it.
That's a good movie. Very strange combination of artistic choices. Keep the subtitles on because that movie has more mumbling than the entire works of Joe Swanberg.
I'm really struggling with the "released since 200" criterion.
I guess I thought All The Boys Love Mandy Lane (2013) was a fine modern slasher movie, and it comes in at 43%.
The 13th Warrior almost makes it (released 1999). I'm surprised it's down at 33%. Not a masterpiece by any means, but a solid action movie.
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is weird because it has an audience rating lower than the critic rating.
Fandom is fickle. I was prepared to list Thor 2 as my pick. I liked it and I had the impression it would have a low rating. Whenever people are comparing notes about the MCU, they usually make Thor 2 sound like Sharknado 4. But doing my research for this thread, it's rated 67 percent by critics and 76 percent by fans. Online fandom doesn't distinguish well between "worse than average for its franchise" and "objectively terrible". (Either that, or I'm hypersensitive to criticism of things I personally like. Who knows.)
I also liked Hansel and Gretel! It's absurd, funny, vicious, sexy.
I like Jupiter Ascending (27% critics, 38% audience) -- it captures the flavour of 1930s pulp sci-fi much better than (say) John Carter did, also it's spectacular to look at, and refreshing to have a woman playing the Chosen One for once.
15:The book it was based on, Eaters of the Dead, was a fun literary experiment. I read it far too young, though, so didn't get what Crichton was doing.
I watched Jupiter Ascending and couldn't make heads or tails of it. Possibly because I was on an airplane and did not have headphones.
20: I read it again recently because it's free on the library download. It holds up.
Mars Attacks technically doesn't qualify by Munroe's standards (53 RT, 53 audience), but I remember seeing that movie on more than one "Worst Movies of the Year" list. It's great.
And oddly timely, in that it plays like a spoof of "Independence Day," which came out the same summer.
If Mars Attacks! is allowed in, I'm definitely claiming it. It's one of my all time favourite movies.
If we're allowed to ignore the released since 2000 rule, I was thinking that my fondness for Lord of Illusions would make it an obvious choice, but now I see it has a rating of 61%, which surprised me. I thought I was one of a very few people who liked that movie.
And I wasn't even going to bother suggesting Event Horizon because I assumed it was well liked, but apparently it's way down at 27%.
Lovecraftian horror in space and Sam Neil ripping out his eyeballs...what's not to like?
I find the Warcraft movie notable for the difference between its tomatometer, 27, and its audience score, 77. Such a big difference seems rare. I liked it, but Cassandane went upstairs and went to bed when it was halfway through, so let's just say that fans and non-fans of the franchise are divided.
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Ooh, found another not-quite-eligible movie. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas has a shocking 49% critic score (much better audience score). It's 1998 though. Around the same time, Starship Troopers has a criminally low 63%.
A Knight's Tale (2001) is pretty close at 58%. I love how daft and unabashedly anachronistic that film is.
14 is right. For Miami Vice and Blackhat both - I felt they respect the audience. There's a ton of information flying around, everyone is mumbling jargon, the movie explains nothing. It assumes that you either know or are quick enough to keep up (though Blackhat has one great meta-aware infodump scene). They felt like reality; Blackhat is the only movie I've seen or heard of that even tries to depict hacking realistically (not that it's realistic, but it tries); violence is brutal, casualties hurt (on all sides). I think both have great worldbuilding, for the same world, which is the actual underworld of the world we live in. Borderless, destructive, messy, confusing, creepingly militarized. Emotionally, there's a bleakness and pathos to both of them that really appeals to me. YMMV.
People complain about the photography and sound in these movies, and I understand why, but I think it makes sense. Ugly subject matter, ugly photography. Why not? You visit an open-cast mine in Malaysia, the glare will be blinding. You have a firefight at night, you won't be able to see shit. There's also a sort meta connection to all the people in the real underworld staring at shitty video feeds.
Den of Thieves is essentially a remake of Mann's Heat (Does a theme emerge?) and not nearly as good, but good enough to work in its own right. It's too long, a bit self-indulgent, but a real thriller, not action movie, and has one all-timer setpiece. Also bleakness and militarization.
Smokin' Aces is a mess, but has good stuff in it. The characters feel like real people, with history, regrets, morals. Also lots of gonzo wtf.
Chronicles of Riddick - nonsensical, but tons of style. Production design, fight scenes. The Crematoria run is an all-timer.
Equilibrium - much the same, but with awesomely executed fascist aesthetics instead (largely shot in the Berlin Olympic Stadium, frex). Sean Bean is great.
27: "The Souvenir" has the opposite kind of divergence - 90+ critics rating and a little over 30 by the audience. I had mixed feelings.
Fails on date, ST: Final Frontier wasn't remotely as bad as its reputation. A not-bad extended Trek episode, heartfelt camaraderie. I also liked Nemesis. Essentially a remake of Wrath of Khan (which I didn't know that when I watched it) but good enough to work on its own terms. And I watched TNG when I was a kid, so.
The Counselor! OMGWTF. Heebie you'd love this one, it's set in Texas.
I'm onboard with 30.1. Fear and Loathing was really good - better than the reviled Where the Buffalo Roam (17%) which I also liked a lot for its fun Bill Murray performance.
"Dude, Where's My Car" was brilliant and not appreciated in it's own time.
The Words. Not nearly as clever as it wants to be, but still clever. Gorgeous photography. All the performances are good, Dennis Quaid is great.
Liking Nemesis is an impressively unpopular opinion even among people who watched a lot of TNG as kids.
I have mixed feelings about Fear and Loathing. IMO, the book worked in large measure through the counterpoint of the crazy highjinks being described on the one hand and the grim ruminations on the ultimate failure of the 60s counterculture on the other.
In the movie it felt like the second part was mostly missing, so it was basically a couple of guys stumbling around Las Vegas hallucinating and acting crazy. That said I did enjoy Johnny Depp's performance as HST.
But I'm a Cheerleader (39%). You're welcome.
I was tempted to defend Baywatch, but it has an audience score in the 60s and doesn't qualify. Not a good movie (and has a few too many dick jokes) but it basically succeeds at being a dumb, fun, summer movie with some fun meta-humor about the Rock's tendency to be too intense about everything.
But I'm a Cheerleader (39%). You're welcome.
I remember mostly liking that moving and also finding it underwhelming.
I can't believe I'm being that guy but Munroe and maybe now I can stop being awful and find a list of movies to remind myself I haven't seen anything much.
I can't believe I'm being that guy but Munroe . . .
Being that person and thank you. Something looked off to me, and I actually double-checked the last two vowels to make sure they were correct, but skipped over the first vowel.
Italics should have stopped after "person" <shame/>
"Dude, Where's My Car" was brilliant and not appreciated in it's own time.
I don't think I'd go as far as brilliant but I do have a soft spot for it. Pretty funny and unlike most of its contemporaries very warm hearted.
"Aeon Flux" got a 9%/39% rating. The TV version (the animated shorts) was much much better but the movie was good enough for popcorn.
Try the following googlesearch: "rotten tomatoes search for low rated movies since 2000". There are a bunch of sites that collect such things. One site you look for movies that came out during the early days of Rotten Tomatoes (the early 00's), because not many audience votes were submitted in those days, so you don't get the dreaded "low critics/high audience" ratings.
I'm ashamed that I spend as much time as I did on this project.
/spend/spent/, but I guess I do that sort of thing a lot, so maybe "spend" is almost okay: a 23%, maybe?
"Aeon Flux" got a 9%/39% rating. ... the movie was good enough for popcorn.
Good catch.
I though the movie was worth my time, and that the DVD extras were even better. Seeing breakdowns of some of the stunt work and special effects increased my appreciation for the movie.
|| Speaking of a few too many dick jokes I guess I was kind of surprised at the Jackson Browne concert last week what a crowd-pleaser Redneck Friend turned out to be. |>
|| And speaking of grim ruminations on the ultimate failure of the 60s counterculture, Browne didn't play Before the Deluge even though the concert was delayed nearly 2 hours on account of thunderstorms/drenching rain. |>
Babe Pig in the City is from 1998, close enough. Audiences disliked it. High Life was great. I liked the last two Alien movies also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98JrWm9IMMA
Okay. Speed Racver at 40% is my solid choice. That movie was a super fun with fascinating visuals.
George Miller's full list of feature length film director credits:
Mad Max
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior
Max Max: Beyond the Thunderdome
The Witches of Eastwick
Lorenzo's Oil
Babe: Pig in the City
Happy Feet
Happy Feet Two
Mad Max: Fury Road
It doesn't meet the cutoff, but I unironically loved Hudson Hawk, and I genuinely find it bizarre that it's such a legendary flop.
I think the movie Dick is an underrated masterpiece, but audiences didn't love it (53% audience score).
Woah, critics hated Practical Magic. I'm not saying that it is the greatest movie ever made, but I am critics should all be fired.
Critics also hated Final Destination. Are critics insane?
Dude, Where's My Car? was absolutely my first thought. Zoolander, my second, but that scored quite well, considering how stupid it is. Man On Fire comes in at 39, so there's that.
I don't know how to break this to you, but if you like movies that I like, it means you have bad taste.
I've seen lots of crying emoji of `T's sandwiching something else. The `T' is an eye squinched shut with tears pouring down.
I watch hardly any movies and also have terrible taste, so.
I like the project. I once did something similar with music: method is here - http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2009/03/27/in-which-we-get-down-to-the-unconscious/ and results are here: http://www.harrowell.org.uk/blog/2009/04/03/music-2/
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Off-topic but thinking about music. I was recently remembering that unfogged made me aware of Speech DeBelle. But after getting her debut album I didn't hear anything more. I just looked her up, and it sounds like quite a story.
The calm in her home seemed so different from how her life had been ten years ago, when she was fresh into the music industry; when she was new and had the "glow." Her Mercury win, at the age of just 22, was an achievement that surprised nearly everyone but herself. The album was made on a small budget of around £3,000 at a time when Speech was still fresh from south London and had yet to encounter many other professional musicians. Nevertheless, months prior, while recording the vocals out in Australia, she had made a prediction that she would win.
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But she'd not anticipated what would come after: the journalists and magazine reporters queuing for interviews, the ripple from the recording contract she had signed without a lawyer, the grueling tour schedule that left her little time to record and write personal music, the pressure to live up to the expectations of being a "Mercury Prize-winning artist." So she started saying yes to things she should have perhaps declined, chasing a version of herself that perhaps never really existed in an attempt to keep the money coming in.
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Her second album Freedom of Speech came and went with little fanfare in 2012. Then she parted with her label, and at 30, Speech Debelle decided that she was finished with the music business. So only two albums in, but still wanting to express her creativity, she trialled a passion for food, cooking briefly on Celebrity MasterChef and operating a food truck in east London's Brick Lane. After that she briefly left England to cook at a refugee camp in Calais, an experience she said she learnt much from when she came across mothers who had carried their children through the sea, and fathers who had gone hungry when rations were tight. It was also in this period that she quit drinking and came to realize that for years, alcohol had numbed her nerves in the moments she felt overwhelmed or stressed and that without it, she would have to face her anxiety alone.
"I just felt a bit broken for a while," she said, clearing her throat. "Sometimes we're shouting at the world because of what we haven't been able to heal within ourselves; we're just being angry at the world when you're really just angry at yourself. When you hit 30, I think you start to unravel in a mature way. It took me 30 years to stop looking at things as situations somebody else had put me in and to finally take responsibility for my actions. I started to think, 'when was the last time I called my gran?' That's what this life is really about. I'm here, alive, I'm not supposed to spend all this time sitting on this couch considering me, maybe I should spend some time and go out and go and see my gran and go and see my goddaughter. Those are real, tangible things."
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Imagine Me & You 2006 - 34% critics, 74% audience. Very sweet and fun.
Dude Where's My Car was the first DVD I owned. I love that movie so much.
People have been coming around on Heavens Gate and What Dreams May Come. This doesn't seem to be happening with Rancho Deluxe.
Also, "Dude, Where's My Car" passes the Bechdel Test, because two women talk to each other about the Continuum Transfunctioner.
25 I also like Lord of Illusions.
I can't stand Rotten Tomatoes. There's a bunch of film critics I like who I read regularly, including some I rarely agree with but I still find insightful and worth taking seriously (Richard Brody being the at the top of the list of those, he often trashes films I really like and praises films I don't and writes real head-scratchers on a regular basis but I find him insightful and he writes well.)
Rotten Tomatoes, like Metacritic, is fine if you largely ignore the scores and just use it as a link aggregator for reviews
56 It's a crime that he hasn't been able to make any more movies, Mad Max or otherwise, since being tied up in litigation over the profits from Fury Road.
John Carpenter is another director who wants to keep working but can't find funding. Damn shame.
67 Ishtar too. Elaine May is brilliant and has been getting a bit of attention lately. Too bad that film ended her directing career (Mikey and Nicky, A New Leaf, and the Heartbreak Kid are all fantastic films).
Do you think Carpenter still has it? The last thing he did that I liked at all was Vampires and even that I don't think was particularly good, just enjoyably silly (and less watchable now given how much of an arsehole it's clear James Woods is).
Dunno, someone should throw a few million his way for a film or tv series (Netflix?) and see. Cronenberg is another one I'd like to see make some more films but I've read that he's retired from film making.
I would like to see They Live updated, if it's still possible without making a documentary.
"I'm here to catch Pokemon and kick ass and I just ran out of pokeballs."
Carpenter made one of the best entries in the Masters of Horror series (Cigarette Burns). On the other hand, his last film, The Ward in 2010, was pretty blah. It didn't feel at all like a Carpenter film.
They Live is awesome.
I think sites like RT and metacritic work reasonably well in the aggregate for mainstream commercial offerings where a low rating maps to bad acting/bad dialogue etc, and less well for things slightly off the beaten track.
Horace Andy's "Straight to Hell" is fantastic
Hey Mossy, have you seen Thief?
(I'm also wondering if you're working on a Kashmir post submission.)
What movie was Trump complaining about?
Ah, The Hunt. I suppose I will now feel obligated to see it.
81: No, should I? And what do you think of late period Mann?
Not working on Kashmir, but someone should.
You're currently our token Asian, so I think it's on you.
I guess Barry is also technically Asian, but you comment more often. alameida only pops in occasionally these days.
The pro-Beijing newspaper Ta Kung Pao on Thursday published a photo of opposition activists meeting in a hotel with Julie Eadeh, a political section chief at the U.S. Consulate in Hong Kong, along with details of Eadeh's State Department career and the names of her husband and teenage children.Real strong center-stage leadership there, comrades.
We just need to unleash Chiang and everything will work out fine.
(To a first approximation, no one in the United States cares about anything that happens in Asia at all.)
(insert unthreatening friendly emoji)
To a first approximation, no one in the United States cares about anything that happens in Asia at all.
That's not totally fair. We'll pay attention to Mount Everest stories if there are long wait times and/or dying.
84 If you're a Michael Mann fan as you seem to be you absolutely should see it, and even if you're not. It's a great film and James Caan's performance is terrific.
I've not seen Blackhat. Miami Vice was good.
My problem with Blackhat was that it was more of an action movie than I was expecting, but I'll probably watch it again as I re-watch movies that involve hacking. There aren't a lot of them.
In other cinema news, I signed up for the Criterion Channel free trial and when you launch the Roku app the opening screen shows imagery from a bunch of famous films that have Criterion editions, many of which are not actually available on the channel.
We'll pay attention to Mount Everest stories if there are long wait times and/or dying.
Also, many people are obsessed with Pokemon.
To the OP, I'd have to go for "Alien v. Predator" which is a solid second-class action movie with a very decent cast (Sanaa Latham, Ewen Bremner, Lance Henriksen) and some really eerie settings.
I tried to watch Miami Vice but found the dialogue so indistinct as to be useless. Admittedly I was extremely high at the time.
Hm, Song to Song was devoid of detectable plot and I didn't finish it but it's Terrence Malick and it's pretty so I'll hand-wavily defend it. 43%. I didn't watch Knight of Cups or whatever his other recent movie nobody saw was, but I think it's also sub-50%. Someone or other who was in it said "it makes Tree of Life look like Transformers" which I still laugh when I remember.
Must beg to differ on Ishtar based on an abortive rewatch. Elaine May is brilliant, yes, but Ishtar is weird an clumsy.
99: Somewhat surprised to see how low it came in on RT (21/39). But not a patch on one of my favorite guilty pleasures (but which turns out have been late '90s so not eligible--time flies like a banana), The Postman which comes in at 9/50! Especially given that fucking Waterworld (from several years earlier, objectively worse but still a bit of a guilty pleasure of mine) is 43/44*.
*Not to mention being at 86/86. Future cultural historians will have a field day so to speak.
**Among its sundry rage-inducing aspects is that it brings to my mind the dystopian hell that is the white ethno-nationalist faux culinary authenticity spectacle that is the Iowa caucuses. American politics sodomized by county fair corn dogs.***
***Obscure sanctity of off blog communication violation: That last written as I metaphorically paddle my kayak like a madman.
OP.heebie: The one that jumps out is Rat Race - I loved that movie, but I think of it as an unfairly unpopular movie. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 43% Tomatometer/63% audience, so maybe it counts.
Agree completely. Stupid, but it mostly in the good Airplane! way. And contrast it with the 74/83 for its 60s predecessor, the relatively dreadful* It's a Mad, Mad <some fucking number of "Mad"s> World
*Maybe it's just aged poorly, and pretty soon all of Rat Race will come across as cloyingly embarrassing as the Smashmouth part at the end. But as someone who coerced their family into going to see it at age 9 over my mother's objections, I can report that World sucked balls back then too. This quote from a "positive" review in Variety inadvertently speaks truth:
The comic competition is so keen that it is impossible to single out any one participant as outstanding.
It's probably much harder to make a comedy that holds up than to make something dramatic.
I'mma go with the formulaic and dumb Run Fatboy Run, just because I find Simon Pegg (and the rest of the cast!) so winning, even though the movie is objectively bad.