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My company has a re-shut plan (even though we haven't re-opened yet) and the company leaders are part of the state advisory council, but I don't know if the state has adopted or announced the same guidelines.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 12:53 PM
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1. No.
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Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 1:31 PM
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I'm helping.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 1:32 PM
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Illinois has detailed information about phased opening and what would cause each region to step backwards:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cb-pritzker-plan-reopen-illinois-20200506-erfvitdovffmzd7ativx4hj57q-htmlstory.html

Michigan's gov just says going backwards is possible but did not publish triggers. Also, no regions.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 1:36 PM
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I'm wrong.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 1:38 PM
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If I had the ability I would just play Scott Joplin all day long, so probably that's not much help. Covid and sabbatical and my wife combined to get me piano lessons so I'm working my way up from rank beginner.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:32 PM
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And I could probably recommend a book of piano pieces if I asked my wife.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:37 PM
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3: The commenter of No.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:39 PM
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I can play my way through Joplin except sometimes he thinks everyone's hands have giant wingspan.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:40 PM
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When we're at her parents, she plays from a book of show tunes. This is why we always find some kind of insoluble problem about moving the piano to this house.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:42 PM
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ha.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:45 PM
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Also, it turns out that pianos are really fucking heavy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 2:48 PM
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An upright piano weights more than three guitars and a kazoo.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 3:02 PM
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We have an electronic piano. It's lighter than a real one. And we don't need to have it tuned.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 3:08 PM
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And I bet it has a volume control.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 3:16 PM
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And a headphone jack.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 3:26 PM
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I like our upright, but it needs a tuning. Oddly, the first 10 years we owned it it stayed in perfect tune. Then we had a piano tuner visit it, and now, not a year later, it's out of tune. I guess the lesson is you can't coddle your pianos. You're just spoiling them that way.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 3:28 PM
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15 and 16 are both correct! AND a built in metronome and a bunch of autoplay songs, although the keys don't move like a player piano, unfortunately.

Before this one, we had Jammies' shitty old keyboard. If you bumped it or looked at it wrong, it would start to play Billy Joel's "Just the Way You Are." It's a distinctive opening chord progression. After the part where it played "Don't go changing to try to please me..." I'd always tell it that it was more than welcome to change to please me.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 4:05 PM
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I thought NY had guidelines for shutting things back down when either the growth rate got above 1 or the hospitals hit some capacity?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 4:43 PM
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If you want to browse compositions, the IMSLP has scores of them. The interface is very plain and a little clunky.

https://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page

And piano category: https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:For_piano


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 4:51 PM
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I sure hope Ohio has reshut plans, because the differences driving on their side of the river versus ours was shocking this weekend. And I wasn't even out when the bars were mobbed, etc.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 4:58 PM
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California this past week: https://covid19.ca.gov/roadmap-counties/


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 5:44 PM
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Speaking of horrible music, somebody decided that Warrant wasn't horrible enough and redid it as "It's the number pi." That and the digits of pi are the lyrics.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 5:50 PM
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6 & 9: I had similar thoughts and bought this book just a few weeks ago. I decided to tackle Pineapple Rag first. The handspan thing is indeed tough, but all the chords in Pineapple are doable. A few days ago I got it up to the recommended speed, but 100 bpm sounds awfully slow.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:11 PM
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I don't want piano sheet music for that, thanks.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:12 PM
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25 to 23.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:12 PM
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Also, most of the pieces are available for free on the internet because they're in the public domain now, and I'm working off of printed off copies instead of the book, because the book turned out to be really beautiful (each piece is accompanied by the illustrated cover from the original piano music), and I'm too miserly about its beauty to crack the spine and lay the book flat.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:15 PM
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Joplin does sound like fun. Maybe I'll join you for some.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:19 PM
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I also did some trail running on a rather rocky trail this weekend, and piano and trail running both really appeal right now because they harness my thinking in a very structured way. They're both really nice ways to stop thinking about the pandemic.

(Usually I plod along on the cement, listening to a podcast, which also blocks out my thinking but in a different way.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:22 PM
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You might look at the Hal Leonard jazz solos series. It's not an especially fulfilling way to learn jazz standards, and in the long run you would be better off getting a fake book and developing your own arrangements. But if you haven't done that before, and you're coming from a classical background (i.e., learning music by reading written transcriptions), this is a quick way to learn some pieces.

There are a lot of books in this series, and you can browse the Hal Leonard website to see what songs are in each book. I like Brent Edstrom's arrangements for the most part -- they sound pretty good, are pretty intuitive, and he often does try to move away from the bog standard basic way to play a song.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:27 PM
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jms!!!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:32 PM
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Also, I played tennis for the first time in two months and holy shit I am a broken woman. After literally twenty minutes I was so winded I couldn't even ask for a break.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:34 PM
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nosflow!!!
hope you're well.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:34 PM
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28: If you get it let's play together! By which I mean, you can tell me what piece you start working on and I'll work on it too, and then we can come here and commiserate about how much our pinkies hurt.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 6:37 PM
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But if you haven't done that before, and you're coming from a classical background (i.e., learning music by reading written transcriptions)

This sums me up! Thanks for the suggestion - that looks like fun.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 7:09 PM
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34: Let's do it! Ok, I'll pick one out.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 7:10 PM
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Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 7:21 PM
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Oh, measures to lock down, not to reopen.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 7:24 PM
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Right. Where people less want to say an indicator outloud, because then they can't change their mind when it comes to pass.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 7:55 PM
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Trump wants to stand around and be adored by 10,000 fuckheads in a stadium. 10,000 fuckheads are going to come adore him in multiple locations (including ones near me), give each other the 'rona, and then go to the grocery store and not wear masks because they cough for freedom. Very few places are going to close back down when the disease surge hits because there's no federal help for states yet and the unemployment insurance will kill most states without a bailout. And also because somebody is going to shoot a doctor or a cop or something. Probably a nurse, because shooting women is a thing among those people.

And then the small businesses are mostly going to go broke anyway because while 20-30% of the population screaming and blocking all other action can force the end of a formal closure, they can't make people with jobs that let them work from home decide to go to the Olive Garden and risk disease for breadsticks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 8:59 PM
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Maybe I'm being too pessimistic?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:00 PM
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Is he really starting to hold rallies again? JFC.


Posted by: Heebie | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:04 PM
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Maybe some Chopin, Heebie? Everyone likes Chopin, if you're pro-Dvorak that's at least in the same solar system, and the pieces tend to be brief enough (the preludes in particular) that it doesn't take forever to get something under your belt.

I've gotten mired in trying to learn a long, fast Beethoven sonata movement the whole way through while the upright drifts out of tune. My sight reading is just abysmally slow. The ordeal is perhaps making me a better person but it's a lot for the rest of the house to put up with.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:06 PM
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I'm assuming. What do I know? I don't even think the bread sticks are good.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:06 PM
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My sight reading is really slow because I have to say "Every good boy does fine" before I read each note.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:07 PM
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Even then, I can't remember whether to start from the top or the bottom.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:12 PM
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Starting from the top, it's "Feds didn't buy good equipment."


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:20 PM
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I know. There's still no widely available testing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:27 PM
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Moderately on topic, does anyone here play an instrument that's not a C instrument? Let's say I wanted to arrange a piece as a duet for piano (me) and alto sax (my dad, who is deprived of his music class and awfully bored). The alto sax is an E flat instrument. What does that mean for me exactly? If the saxophonist plays the melody as written, do I transpose the piece down three half steps for the piano?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:29 PM
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Just so. If you write the sax melody in C, the piano part should be in E flat; if you write the piano in C, the sax should be written in A.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:35 PM
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(That is, you would transpose the piano up three half steps.)


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:40 PM
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Thank you!


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 9:40 PM
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In the competitive states (where most of the state polling has been conducted), there has been an average swing of 6 points toward Biden compared to Clinton's 2016 result. The same is true in the non-competitive states. At least from this state level data, it does not seem that either candidate is running up the score disproportionately in areas that were already friendly to him. Biden has posted leads of greater than 5 points in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania. He is ahead in more than enough states to capture 270 electoral votes, if the election were held today.
And so many more people will be dead or unemployed by November. |>


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 10:10 PM
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I recommend J. S. Bach's Well-Tempered Clavier.


Posted by: Mr. F | Link to this comment | 05-17-20 11:14 PM
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I was just coming here to say Well Tempered Clavier and scrolling and scrolling and nobody was saying it and then bam.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:07 AM
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53: yes, it's got to that stage where I start checking 270towin and electoral-vote on a fairly regular basis. And at present it's looking good; Biden's ahead by more than the MOE in enough states to win. But, of course, still almost six months to go. (SIX MONTHS. Israel manages to have like FOUR general elections in that time.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:51 AM
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Scarlatti sonatas are great for casual playing, they're mostly pretty short (2-3 pages), not technically difficult, and a lot of fun.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:13 AM
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Israel manages to have like FOUR general elections in that time

Hey, we might not get another election, we're trying to milk it while it lasts.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:14 AM
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Piano pieces: I inherited a lovely piano but also Mom's books, which is a fun trip down memory lane. If you just want to sit down and play something and maybe have the kids think it's fun, just buy a book of PVG-arranged folk songs. If I Had a Hammer, This Land is Your Land, etc. Also, if you want some scanned classical pieces music to play with, e-mail me. Mom had, like, Reader's Digest Classical Music, with allll the hits.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:50 AM
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32- I suppose I'm guilty of mansplaining here, but I was worried about that effect myself I'm trying to walk at least a couple of times a day now. If I don't exercise I think corona will be a lot more likely to kill me.


Posted by: Roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:58 AM
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We went to a a big deer park (there's two in west London) at the weekend, and it was busier than the busiest bank Holiday weekend I can ever remember. Our local pub opened for takeaway, which led to hundreds of people congregating outside on the canal as if it was a beer garden. Friends who tried a park in Ealing came back shocked at how busy it was, and they are pretty lax with their social distancing at the best of times,* so they are not the types to be dramatic about it.

Massive spike in infections is definitely coming.

Yet, even we are getting pretty tired of this, and making plans for some socially distanced social meet up. Later in the week.

* both teachers, both still occasionally going into work as their schools have vulnerable kids and kids of key workers in, and they have to supervise or take shifts with the kids, so they it's quite hard for them to 100% social distance anyway, so they are a bit more lax about it than we are.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 3:55 AM
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Awl!

And Roger, I hope you are having a blessed Ramadan.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 4:04 AM
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/over-100-million-in-china-s-northeast-thrown-back-under-lockdown?cmpid=BBD051820_CORONAVIRUS


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 4:56 AM
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I just went to the gym for the first time this morning, and I'm full of apprehension and uneasiness.

On the positive side:
- the gym has good fundamentals. There is no AC, it's just a big warehouse. There are three garage doors - two facing the parking lot, and one opening up the opposite side. There is a giant industrial fan installed.
- they've capped class size at 8 people. By any urban standard, it is just a ton of space for 8 people plus a coach.
- Everyone was good-natured and basically compliant - no sharing equipment, wiping things down afterwards. Spreading out.

On the negative side:
- No one seems nervous in any way whatsoever. The back garage door was not open when I got there. The fan was set to "lazy stirring" not "anxious protection".
- I walked in with my mask, and from the edge kind of swung it around as people were calling out greetings, and I was like, "So are we doing these things? Anyone?" referring to my mask.

Everyone was kinda ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. No one else had a mask. No one else has any anxiety or nervousness. I wish there was a lot more signalling that we all felt nervous about the situation.

I ended up setting up my equipment right on the edge of the warehouse, and being in the parking lot for certain things. Whenever I went into the center, to listen to the coach or grab equipment or plates, I wore my mask.

Everyone is used to me being the Town Dork, because I'm also the only one who wears a safety vest when we run on edge of the country road where cars whiz by, when it's still dark out because it's the 6 am class. So I didn't feel weird about wearing my mask, but I also don't expect anyone else to start wearing one.

They opened up the back garage door when I mentioned it. But why wasn't it the first thing that happened?

Anyway, this was mostly to test the waters. I just don't know how I feel about it. I mean, I'm pretty sure this sort of good-natured minimum compliance possible is how the entire town is operating.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 5:52 AM
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61.1: well, yes, because the problem is that there is nowhere else to go except parks.
What else might people do on a summer weekend in London, under normal circumstances?
Can't go out of town to the countryside. Can't invite your friends round for a barbecue. Can't go to a museum. Can't go shopping. Can't go to a football match. Can't go to church (or mosque or whatever). Can't take the kids to a playground. Can't go to the pub. Can't go very far across town anyway, not if you aren't bike-mobile.

So of course people are going to the parks. And I don't think it'll lead to a huge spike - they're still all keeping to themselves, as far as I can see, and outdoor transmission is pretty rare in any case. It's spending sustained periods indoors in proximity to other people that you need to worry about; on the Tube, in buses, in offices and workplaces, with air conditioning hauling that nicely chilled ditch-liquor

(We met some friends for an appropriately distanced outside meetup at the weekend. Surprising how emotional everyone got at seeing people who didn't share a house with them.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 5:59 AM
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61.1: well, yes, because the problem is that there is nowhere else to go except parks.
What else might people do on a summer weekend in London, under normal circumstances?
Can't go out of town to the countryside. Can't invite your friends round for a barbecue. Can't go to a museum. Can't go shopping. Can't go to a football match. Can't go to church (or mosque or whatever). Can't take the kids to a playground. Can't go to the pub. Can't go very far across town anyway, not if you aren't bike-mobile.

So of course people are going to the parks. And I don't think it'll lead to a huge spike - they're still all keeping to themselves, as far as I can see, and outdoor transmission is pretty rare in any case. It's spending sustained periods indoors in proximity to other people that you need to worry about; on the Tube, in buses, in offices and workplaces, with air conditioning hauling that nicely chilled ditch-liquor exhaled air around to make sure everyone gets a bit. Not sitting on the grass in a park ten feet away from another person sitting on the grass.

(We met some friends for an appropriately distanced outside meetup at the weekend. Surprising how emotional everyone got at seeing people who didn't share a house with them.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 5:59 AM
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55: the well-tempered clavier - same

63: "anti-fever medication is banned at drugstores to prevent people from hiding their symptoms" - disturbing.

I wonder if some states, especially those in the south and midwest, have figured they are not going to be able to prevent summer get-togethers unless they have a big second wave of infections first so they might as well get it over with now. And even then people are still going to congregate for a bbq on the 4th of July.

I just don't get how this is a winning political strategy, though.


Posted by: esnetroh | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 6:04 AM
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re: 65

The big deer park, yeah, I'm fairly sure it's mostly fine. Most people were trying to maintain reasonable distance with a few exceptions, and apart from a few bottlenecks. We were one of their number, so I'm not pointing fingers. As I said, we are planning an outdoor meet-up with a friend of my son's later in the week.

The local pub, not so much, I don't think. Lots of people, in a very small space. Tube train/rock festival levels of crowding, albeit, outdoors. Definitely not people sitting 10 feet apart. I'd be very very surprised if that wasn't a risk.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:09 AM
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Reports here in Arrakis that the latest spike is driven by people visiting family for iftar. Mainly locals. There's apprehension about an even bigger spike for the upcoming Eid.
This morning I went shopping at a Carrefour and one local Fremen (Frewoman actually) wasn't wearing a mask. Everyone else was. And you needed gloves to enter to. Penalties for not wearing a mask are steep and I wonder if they're going to have to enforce them on some locals to drive the point home the same way they arrested 14 locals who violated the ban on public gatherings and, to the shock and surprise of everyone, published their names in the newspapers.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:10 AM
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I wonder if Byrd would be fun to sight read through or if I just like it because I am a horrible pianist and most of it is in A minor. It's lovely music, though. My Harpsichord Goal is to one far-off day be able to play through the long My Ladye Nevells Grownde.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:13 AM
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We went for burgers and beers out on the patio at a restaurant we go to up by the Ninepipe Wildlife Refuge. There was a couple at one other table on the patio -- maybe 15 feet away. Masked (mostly) staff.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:25 AM
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re: 70

That whole period is so good. I play (not especially well) some of the lute music from that period on guitar, but ideally, I'd get hold of a proper lute (or set of lutes) and learn a load of Dowland and Byrd.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:28 AM
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Ninepipe Wildlife Refuge.

When I drive past this, twice per year, I always have a Dr. Spaceman/spa-chim-en mental tic and think "It's pronounced Ninnay pippay".


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 7:46 AM
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The local pub, not so much, I don't think

Agreed.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:06 AM
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73 Now that the new signs are up, you can try is in Salish.



Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:22 AM
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Can't go out of town to the countryside.

Is basic roaming contrary to orders? It seems like that would be pretty safe, and has a lot more legal protection in Britain than the US.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:23 AM
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Sign


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:23 AM
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Or is the issue getting to the countryside, if you don't have a car like a lot of Londoners (though a bare majority of households apparently have a car, to my surprise).


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:26 AM
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Which is practice for the sign sign up the road in Pablo.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:28 AM
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The Saint Petersburg Vredena Institute has been described as "Russia's Diamond Princess," after an outbreak within the hospital led officials to shut it down on April 9, sealing off health professionals within the building. Two weeks later, between 500 and 700 patients and medical personnel were still quarantined in the hospital, with one doctor reporting that about 80 percent of his colleagues were sick.
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He is now the third Russian doctor critical of the government's response to the pandemic to fall out of a window in the past two weeks.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:35 AM
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MA announces ramp up / ramp down criteria
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/reopening-four-phase-approach


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:35 AM
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79: My in-laws pronounce that "Pab-blo" as in the first part of "Pabst Blue Ribbon" and I cringe slightly, but on the other hand there "Guadalupe" in Austin is pronounced "Guadaloop" so what can you do.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 9:01 AM
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re: 76

Travel for outdoor exercise is now permitted. Some friends of ours drove to the coast at the weekend.* Although, you could not, I believe, travel from England into Wales or Scotland for the purpose, as both Scotland and Wales are sticking with the less relaxed lockdown measures for the time being.

* and reported back that while the pinch points getting up and down the cliffside path to the beach were pretty busy, on the beach itself, people were keeping themselves spaced out.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 9:26 AM
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Well pinching people is hardly practical at 2m distance.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 9:55 AM
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Michel Pablo led an interesting life: the thinking seems to be that his father, who died when Pablo was a baby (in the 1840s) was Spanish or Mexican. Pablo's mother was Blackfeet. He was adopted by the Salish as a young adult -- there was a lawsuit in the early 19th century over whether he had to pay county taxes, which depended on his exact status. US v. Heyfron, 138 F. 964 (CC Mont. 1905).

I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me at all if locals rhymed the first syllable with cab. Rather than cob. The answer is to start using the Salish name, of course.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 11:01 AM
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Supreme Court justices invoked fears of bribery and chaos Wednesday to suggest they think states can require presidential electors to back their states' popular vote winner in the Electoral College.
Lawyers! Elucidate! Please.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 11:23 AM
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The governor just announced a ton of new things can open up, starting today - child care facilities, youth sports, and some other stuff.

Then on Friday: bars, bowling alleys, Bingo, other things that start with B.

May 31: all summer camps.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 12:44 PM
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I am finding this very stressful.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 12:44 PM
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No beastiality until Friday.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 12:51 PM
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Bocce courts? Basketball courts? Barbecues? Boating? Bear baiting?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 12:56 PM
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Like, if it is true that the entire focus ought to be on nursing homes, prisons, and meat packing plants, then I ought to change my thinking to that mindset and away from panic-shutdown mode.

Is that really the truth, though?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 12:59 PM
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That probably depends on whether or not you attach any value to human life independent of economic productivity.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:07 PM
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This is a bad slasher movie and we've all just escaped the killer after losing our black friend to a stabbing. The killer is in a car that's on fire and we're saying, "Nobody could have survived those flames."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:13 PM
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Reopeners are taking a victory lap because it's been 14 days since some places started reopening and there's no big surge. But just like exponential growth is hard to stop once it's going, it also takes a few cycles of 14 days to take off again. Say that lockdowns eliminated 75% of transmission; it would take 2 cycles (28 days) before things looked really bad again. So I'm concerned things are going to keep reopening and then a month from now we'll say Oh Shit and it will be too late to close things to stop a big resurgence.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:21 PM
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Two new cases today on 1200 tests. One is in the county just to the south. I was thinking It's start going to the office this week. Like a real job. Maybe tomorrow.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:25 PM
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Holy shit. We need to take up a collection to have the Pittsburgh crew move into this house for future UnfoggedCons.
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Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:41 PM
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That's just way too far on the wrong side of the tunnel.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:44 PM
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It's really annoying how they say "Pittsburgh" for the address for so many suburbs.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:46 PM
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That's like fifteen miles from my office, if I ever have to go to my office again. Nobody can commute that far.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 1:48 PM
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94, it's not going to be a few cycles of 14 days each. 14 days is the absolute maximum time between when you can be infected and show symptoms. Usually people being infected will be showing symptoms earlier than that, and be infectious before they start to show symptoms.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:32 PM
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Satie's piano works are pretty accessible -- I'd rate myself intermediate, and I can decently sight-read a decent chunk of it.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 2:49 PM
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So the news that Trump claims to be taking hydroxychloroquine was enough to make Fox's Neil Cavuto, of all people, go berserk.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 3:16 PM
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101: Adam!


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 3:17 PM
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Kotsko!


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 3:31 PM
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62- Jazak Allah kheran Barry. Ramadan Mubarak


Posted by: Roger the cabin boy | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 5:04 PM
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jms: I was being threatened by Joplin-Indecision, so I am printing out Maple Leaf Rag since I know the tune already, so it seems less intimidating.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 5:20 PM
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87 Jesus, isn't Texas currently experiencing a spike in active cases?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:32 PM
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106 Solace is nice.


Posted by: chill | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 8:44 PM
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Oh wait, you know what you should totally do on the piano speaking of Satie is play Vexations. It's a very brief score notated as annoyingly as humanly possible, sharps and flats and double sharps all over every measure, and then you're supposed to play it 840 times. The score is in the Wikipedia entry. Go play it! I'll wait!


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 9:12 PM
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Austria opened up restaurants (subject to some new rules; staff wearing masks etc) on Friday. The Infanta had been back at daycare (although one of only, like, 3 kids there) and seemingly readjusted to it all last week -- and then had a fever over the weekend, hit 38.9C/102F on Sunday. No other symptoms aside from being REALLY ANGRY all the time, which is not so fun. The doctor tested for bacteria (none), but I guess Corona cases are low enough now that she didn't talk about testing for it, which I found odd (and the daycare person is kind of freaking out about).

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Posted by: X. Trapnel | Link to this comment | 05-18-20 9:47 PM
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Sympathies, X.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 12:33 AM
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107: They're increasing, yes. I don't know if they're increasing in a terrifying-out-of-control way, or a gradual-creep-from-zero way. And don't worry, our testing rates have gone from being 47th worst in the nation to 41st worst in the nation, so progress. Also I'm pretty sure we're not implementing contact tracing.

I was reading the sleepaway camp guidelines. If they just required a Covid test within a day or so before arrival, the rest of it would actually be pretty sane. Keep kids in small cohorts, avoid cohort mixing, etc. But they do not.

I was a nervous wreck yesterday as we tried to game out where we stand on various kinds of activities. Like, swimming outdoors in a pool with friends - safe?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 5:05 AM
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106: Yay! Ok!
108: Solace is indeed nice. I was thinking maybe that one or Euphonic Sounds for next.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 9:46 AM
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I went to an all-night performance of Vexations once in Berkeley, but I had to leave because I couldn't stop sneezing.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 9:50 AM
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So, what should it take for you to feel comfortable getting a haircut?

My stylist is in Boston, and I think they are in a state of emergency longer than the rest of the state. Tim sees an older guy (50's but probably not super healthy) who is a barber and never had appointments. He can just walk there. I would have to take public transit to mine.

I'm also wondering about getting a pedicure, though I worry about my/client breathing on the technician. They autoclave or use disposable tools after every client, so I trust them to be germ conscious.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:16 AM
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So, what should it take for you to feel comfortable getting a haircut?

My stylist is in Boston, and I think they are in a state of emergency longer than the rest of the state. Tim sees an older guy (50's but probably not super healthy) who is a barber and never had appointments. He can just walk there. I would have to take public transit to mine.

I'm also wondering about getting a pedicure, though I worry about my/client breathing on the technician. They autoclave or use disposable tools after every client, so I trust them to be germ conscious.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:16 AM
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I'm going to either have to buy a flowbee or get a haircut soon. But I can fix my feet with the power of socks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:21 AM
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we hired a friend to cut the kids' hair on the back deck.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:26 AM
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That's the opposite of a mullet.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:29 AM
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It will be a long while before I'm comfortable getting a haircut, or doing any activity that requires substantial time at close quarters indoors with someone not in my household.

Meanwhile, M's hair grows apace. I've been watching so many videos. By the time the barbering kit arrives I should be ready to get my cosmetology license. (Does anyone here know how to cut hair? Everyone says that clippers are easier, but having never held clippers in my life, they seem really intimidating. Scissors are much more familiar. I mean, I've never given a haircut with scissors, but, like, I know how to cut paper.)


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:32 AM
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They're increasing, yes. I don't know if they're increasing in a terrifying-out-of-control way, or a gradual-creep-from-zero way. And don't worry, our testing rates have gone from being 47th worst in the nation to 41st worst in the nation, so progress.

And do worry, those testing rates apparently include antibody tests as well as tests to look for the presence of the virus. So far it's been confirmed that Texas and Virginia at least are combining the numbers in this nonsensical way.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:32 AM
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Really? jesus.

I talked to a muckety-muck at Heebie U, about relying on the state measures as an indicator for when we should drastically change our course. They said that the governor refers to two indicators for cues that we're not on the brink of a sharp outbreak:

- Infection rates
- hospitalization rates

I'm inferring that infection rate is supposed to indicate if you're testing enough people. Apparently we want it to stay below 6%, and we're usually hovering around there?

I'm trying to decide if pooling antibody tests and virus tests compromises that 6% number. I suppose it depends which one is higher and which is lower. Antibody tests cover exposure over a longer period of time, but we've had a very low case count here.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:55 AM
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120: Me too probably, but if a vaccine is a year or 2 away, should Tim wait that long. So what are the criteria on which we base our decision? In some ways the proximity in getting a pedicure feels less stressful than going to the supermarket where people get too close to my face.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 10:57 AM
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121: Michael Mina on twitter said that nursing home residents, if they are to be tested when asymptomatic for active COVID infections should also receive antibody testing. Does this make sense? If so, why?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 11:00 AM
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70, 72: I used to play the harpsichord and loved both Lady Neville's Booke and ragtime. No longer have the instrument, though. Too annoying to move with, college & post.

But in January a friend gave me a nice ukelele that she had decided she was never going to learn to play, and I have a copy of From Lute to Uke. And no skill for the ukulele, it turns out, none.

Heebie, would you like to play songs to sing along to? Tin Pan Alley collections, or there must be collections of Songs The Kids Like to Sing, or old parlor music even.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 4:47 PM
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120: Odile cut my hair with scissors and a shaver and the shaving was definitely more comfortable for both of us, but only because we'd agreed she would go to the skin there so there wasn't a skill piece. I have a feathering razor that I use on my own hair and it hurt a lot when she tried that, so maybe not that. I've cut her hair with scissors twice and it seems pretty easy, but I've cut other hair before and we're both pretty easy-going.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-19-20 5:53 PM
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My hair salon just sent out an e-mail saying they were hoping to reopen on the 26th. I'm not sure they're right about that. In any case, their new policy is that to make an appt you have to reserve with a credit card and they won't be accepting any cash to make it touch less. They are requiring clients to download Venmo to tip the stylist individually.

I realized that I'm connected to my stylist on LinkedIn from when he switched salons for a while. I was thinking about reaching out to ask him for his Venmo info and then sending him $20 or something. How would you phrase that? "It's gonna be a while before I'm ready to come in, but I realize that you've just gone 2 months without income and wanted to let you know that I was thinking about you and hoping you were ok..". Thoughts?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 3:53 AM
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127.last That sounds perfect.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 3:56 AM
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I think that sounds patronizing. Say it's a down payment [wink] or something.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 5:15 AM
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129: Could the author of 129 write out explicitly what they would say?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 9:10 AM
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Don't take the author of 129 seriously, they didn't even sign their comment!
I really think what you wrote hits the right note.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 9:14 AM
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130: You know the guy I don't. And the model in my head is straight man-straight man, so. I'd try to make a joke, like "Hey man, down payment for the re-opening rush." And on actually seeing him make no mention of it, just pay as normal.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 9:17 AM
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I just got a no words, smiley face with little hearts emoji text from my haircut person. I'm figuring it was misdirected.

Boy would I like a haircut, though.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 9:49 AM
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You think you aren't worthy of spontaneous smiley hearts?


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 9:54 AM
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I'm fond of Lubasha, but we don't have that kind of texting relationship. Mostly she just yells at me for not doing enough to take care of my eyebrows.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 10:18 AM
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If you have a cigarette lighter and a mirror, there's no reason you can't shape your brows at home.


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132: Well, once I forgot to tip him when I was his last appointment of the day, and I couldn't go back because the place was closed, so I mailed him a check. The next time I got my haircut, he thanked me for that.

He is pretty meticulous. He has electronic records about which shampoo caused me to itch like crazy after they used it.

I don't entirely understand the organizational structure of hair salons. Is he an employee or a 1099 contractor? I never buy products there, and since they get commissions on selling those things, I always tip extra so that he won't try to sell me anything. He probably makes more money than I do usually, but I've been collecting a paycheck this whole time.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 10:22 AM
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So, they open Yellowstone, and three days in a tourist gets injured for not maintaining proper social distancing from a buffalo.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05-20-20 6:07 PM
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You got to give them much more than six feet.


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