Re: Fright

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McConnell and McCarthy have both said no to this directly, fortunately. Not that it rules out more ratfucking, but they could easily have said "I didn't see the tweet," so addressing it says something.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 12:51 PM
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He's like Custer, with worse hair.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 12:52 PM
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It takes the Guardian awhile to get around to it, but they do eventually explain Trump's real purpose here. Here's Trump's tweet:

"With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history," Mr. Trump wrote. "It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"

Anybody reading this who thinks about it for five seconds understands that his primary aim is to discredit mail-in voting in particular and US elections more broadly. The election-delay bit is, at most, a trial balloon. (I like how Lindsay Graham typified Republican outrage by describing a delay as not ""a particularly good idea.")


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 1:04 PM
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(HG is probably past Little Bighorn by now, but one more in that vein)

All the bluster and delegitimization in the world didn't help Custer at LBH.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 1:18 PM
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He's out with a tweet reinforcing his real game here. Put "vote by mail" into question. Sn question anything counted late.

Must know Election results on the night of the Election, not days, months, or even years later!

Very plausible scenario where Arizona is the "tipping point" state and Trump is ahead after Election night. Past few elections have had big swings to D in late counted votes. (I think the last Senate contest played out that way.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 1:40 PM
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Trump's goal now isn't to win the election, and isn't to stay in office without winning the election. It's to convince himself (and secondarily, his fans) that he would have won if the election had been "fair." This goal is achievable. He's looking forward to his next career as a bitter old man with his own tv network.


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 2:34 PM
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1: They understand that if there's no election, they lose their paychecks and their power on January 3. This is true of everyone who's up for reelection this year (including at the state level), and most of them have a much better chance than Trump does. One more reason why the election will happen.


Posted by: unimaginative | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 2:39 PM
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People often forget that even in 2016 most statewide races Rs outperformed Trump by margins from a little (PA,... sigh) to a lot (Wisconsin).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:12 PM
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If Arizona is close, Biden should win Florida handily.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:34 PM
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Robert Kraft is the expert on Florida handies.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:35 PM
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So, if Trump gets his own TV network, which I'm sure he would like very much, who is going to advertise on it? The MyPillow guy? Duluth Pack? I have a hard time seeing him making enough money at that to stay even marginally solvent when anyone who advertises with him immediately gets 50% of the country boycotting them.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:50 PM
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Also, any way you slice it, I think a lot of people are going to get shot on Election Night.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:52 PM
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Probably not as many as get Covid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 3:57 PM
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6: This sounds a lot like what people said in 2016 when Trump was suggesting he wouldn't concede defeat if the election went against him.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 4:16 PM
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I think you guys are being too sanguine. Sure, his tweet has a bigger current purpose about discrediting mail in voters. But he's also testing the waters. If Republicans were to fall in line on this, things could disintegrate into chaos.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 5:19 PM
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I'm not sanguine. I'm attempting to maintain my level of concern high enough that I am alert to problem but not so high that I can't function because of stress.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 5:30 PM
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That's reasonable. Have you tried making jokes?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 6:17 PM
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Not yet.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 6:19 PM
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Do you know what the secret to elections is?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 6:24 PM
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The "let 'em die in the blue states" strategy did not work so we're left with this.

Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner's team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. "The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy," said the expert. That logic may have swayed Kushner. "It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out," the expert said.

(From this VF article on the multiply-fucked Kushner national testing strategy. Everyone should read it.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 6:34 PM
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Some people were saying he's trying to distract from the economic numbers that just came out. I'm not convinced, but they are pretty extreme.

https://i.redd.it/bki3bhjnu0e51.png


Posted by: Roger the Cabin Boy | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 7:18 PM
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Yes, he's continuing to cast doubt on the validity of the election. FUD. Fear, uncertainty , and doubt. Hell, he still sells the line that an election that he *won* had massive fraud. He says he won the popular vote and that millions of votes did Clinton were fraudulent. FUD. Donald Fud.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 7:25 PM
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20. Kushner and Miller! Fuck those fucking fuckers. I bet Bannon, who was tagged as the future evil vizier, is jealous.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 7:29 PM
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20 That's outright criminal


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-30-20 10:35 PM
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18 is perfect, btw.


Posted by: Doug | Link to this comment | 07-31-20 5:46 AM
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