Re: <3 Shrkeli <3 so so cute do u think he likes me?

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Let me be the first to suggest that the heart wants what the heart wants.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 8:50 AM
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They lost me at the dress with giant, puffy shoulders.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:03 AM
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By humanizing him, she's making it less likely that Trump will give him a last minute pardon.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:20 AM
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From what my ex colleagues tell me, I find it hard to believe there was a shortage of adrenaline working at Bloomberg.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:27 AM
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Although maybe stealing another man's wife will appeal to the President's sensibilities.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:34 AM
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Is this even a fit subject of journalism? This person seems in a lot of personal chaos.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:44 AM
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The last two paragraphs of that article are something else


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:50 AM
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6: Isn't personal chaos the primary topic of journalism?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:53 AM
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6: Isn't personal chaos the primary topic of journalism?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:53 AM
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9: Even stupider the 2nd time.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:54 AM
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An NYT editor's ex-boyfriend is dating Lady Gaga. She wrote an article about this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/sunday/lady-gaga-boyfriend.html

I want to set her up with Shkreli gf's ex-husband.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:57 AM
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I've seen it mentioned but the only thing I've read is the followup interview.

Is it possible that her marriage was pretty bad before she Shkreli'd things ? If so, then IMO not much to see-- journalistic ethics dilemma I guess, but nobody's meaningfully busting on Bob Woodward or the complete knobs who empowered Judith Miller or kept running "but her emails" articles. I mean many agree that they're horrible, but we're not earnestly discussing mental illness or the inevityable colossal mounds of partcular human failures that led to such appalling meaningful public actions. Anyway.

If her marriage was not bad, that's a bad decision there. But if the story and the attention are about a journalist's private mistake which didn't have bad public consequences, I question why to pay attention. She's photogenic, so there's that, reinforces the rapid erosion of literacy since it's a set of interactions that can be communicated with images.

Better to mercilessly skewer real villains, don't any of the Murdochs have personal lives to mock and discuss?
No seriously, did Rupert have a normal relationship with his dad, whose destruction by the British class hierarchy left a man every bit as twisted and contemptible as Hearst was.

Not really feeling the holiday this year and am procrastinating, why?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:23 AM
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Oh good, I'm glad someone posted this. I'm dying to know whether the two crazy dresses they pictured her in are fashionable or whether somebody was being mean to her by putting her in unflattering clothes. To me they look hideous, but I have that reaction so often to things that turn out to be considered Very Fashionable (e.g. "cold shoulders" sweaters) that I can't trust myself.

Is it supposed to be flattering, or no?

(Otherwise, I pretty much agree with the take in the OP.)


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:32 AM
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Oh good, I'm glad someone posted this. I'm dying to know whether the two crazy dresses they pictured her in are fashionable or whether somebody was being mean to her by putting her in unflattering clothes. To me they look hideous, but I have that reaction so often to things that turn out to be considered Very Fashionable (e.g. "cold shoulders" sweaters) that I can't trust myself.

Is it supposed to be flattering, or no?

(Otherwise, I pretty much agree with the take in the OP.)


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:32 AM
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She discusses them in the follow up! Basically she was like, "Everything sucks, might as well enjoy a fashion shoot in a beautiful dress! But no, I didn't get to keep it."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:42 AM
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Who in Brooklyn would have a closet big enough to put it away without ruining the poof.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:46 AM
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The people at Elle clearly hated her, or wanted her to look crazy. The fancy dresses paired with DIY hair and makeup (unsmiling, pursed lips), shot in daylight, make her look nuts. (Compare to the personal snaps in the followup article, where she looks normal, pretty, and like a completely different person.)

It's not hard to think what the Elle wardrobe people were thinking -- the exaggerated shoulders, bright chaotic floral prints, high neckline and full skirts = sexually demure/romantically aggressive/mentally unstable. The fact that they did this to her is the only thing about this article that makes me sympathetic to her.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 10:54 AM
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The meme wall is both kind of poignant and confusing. I guess when your SO is in prison and you can't forward him cat gifs, the next best thing is to print them out and send them in hard copy, and then also retain copies (on glossy photo paper tho?) which you post on your wall to remind yourself of your ongoing conversation with him. And I guess everyone's private cat-forwarding text conversations are tedious and unfunny when stripped of context -- their saving grace is their privacy and ephemerality, and the charm of your exchange becomes invisible when printed out and made public? But really, those memes are not funny.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 11:09 AM
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They should have teased her bangs so they got "eighties yearbook photo."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 11:10 AM
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There is no way the dress wasn't picked for its name (in the caption).


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 11:50 AM
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20 I was thinking that when they started out, what they were going for was mainly 'Christ what an asshole' about him, which is kind of newsworthy, but found that she's not ready to play victim, and still committed to defending him. 'The Vampire's Wife' indeed.

It's admirable that her friends and family are all declining the opportunity to slag on her. One can imagine their relief when she comes around to realizing she's been had. (He'll probably have a spreadsheet showing that she had a net gain from her association with him.)


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:03 PM
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I feel like I should be able to say what a "literary pub crawl" is, but the particulars are defeating me. Is it something very specific to the perfect little Brooklyn life?


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:06 PM
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Something, something, James Joyce.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:11 PM
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I really have not been impressed with the literary pub crawls. There's so much more imagination and energy in the genre pub crawls.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:20 PM
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Hitting three neighborhoods in Brooklyn, this tour covers some of the last sections of historically protected Brooklyn. Through the stunning and varying architecture, the winding streets, and the three pubs we hit, you will wander back in time to the founding of this great city and the nation, while learning of the great literary and artistic tradition that the neighborhood fostered. We'll visit Brooklyn's oldest bar, see the effects of gentrification and of the modifications of Robert Moses, follow some of the routes of the Underground Railroad, and learn how Brooklyn became the most famous borough in the world.

Ok, but do I get drunk?

Is Brooklyn the most famous borough in the world? More famous than Manhattan?

Anyway, as far as I know there are only 5 boroughs in the world.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:32 PM
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Even with ample warning from this thread, I still wasn't quite prepared for the dresses.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:42 PM
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Oh man, remember when Jonathan Safran Foer left his wife for Natalie Portman, but forgot to ask Natalie Portman about that plan?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:47 PM
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We've all been there.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 12:51 PM
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He'll probably have a spreadsheet showing that she had a net gain from her association with him.

If this article leads a publisher to pick up her book it might even be right.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 1:14 PM
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"Pounded by a Profiteer"?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:10 PM
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My wife got a misdirected party invite at one of her email addresses that is old and very short ([4 letters]@yahoo.com) and that attracts a lot of accidental email, probably from people who left off some digits at the end. We were appalled/amused at this extremely non-COVID-safe party invite for a weird gated community location near Palm Beach, Florida, and did a bunch of e-stalking to amuse ourselves. Turns out the host knew Shkreli and his father had given him money and later sued to get it back.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:12 PM
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Anyway, as far as I know there are only 5 boroughs in the world.

32 in London alone.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:19 PM
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Pennsylvania has 939 boroughs and townships. I'm not sure what the difference is or how many of each, but around here there are more of the former than the latter.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:23 PM
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32, 33: Who knew there were so many boroughs in the world?


What are the 7 boroughs of New York City?
Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, and The Bronx.Mar 28, 2019

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=borough&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&tbs=

At least I can tell 5 from 7.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:43 PM
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Exciting update! Not sure if there are any single guys left on Unfogged, but if there are - someone special is available!

Asked by The Post if she is ready to start dating other guys, Smythe -- dressed in jeans and black boots while walking her dog amid the snow -- replied, "I'm definitely open to it.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/21/martin-shkreli-gal-pal-christie-smythe-is-ready-to-date/


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:55 PM
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You guys should try it. Upper Arlington is about perfectly borough-sized.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:55 PM
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The Vampire's Wife is by Susie Cave. So the Vampire is Nick Cave?


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 2:56 PM
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I've been advocating for Bay Area areas to become consolidated metropolitan boroughs for years now. (San Francisco is mostly there.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:11 PM
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The only reference I hear to boroughs outside of the NY ones is when they're rotten.
The funniest Shkreli thing I've heard lately was someone on Twitter saying that he's the only guy in the world who knows all the pharmaceuticals and which ones could save us from Covid and thousands are dying because he's locked up.
I've never gotten a sense of what levels of intelligence and shamelessness led to him making so much money. He's not dumb but I'm sure I've worked with many smarter people. I guess he made his money first at a hedge fund and then got into pharma?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:25 PM
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finally clicked on the link to look at the pictures and that's actually a pretty good looking v's w dress, as v w's dresses go! modest-"sexy"-prairie-wife dresses has been a trend for a couple of years now, meh not my thing. if you're going to go all covered up i think erdem does it better, although deep skirt flounces on grown women, really just no. but obvs putting her in a v's w dress was deliberate.

all people involved in this saga seem perfectly horrific from the chatter about them/the article, but tbh not going to read the article given life's fleeting nature etc.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:26 PM
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I guess he's only worth tens of millions which for a hedge fund manager is pretty mediocre. I assumed he was similar to early Elon.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:26 PM
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I don't know what erdem is and at first though it was code for something written backwards.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:28 PM
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The funniest Shkreli thing I've heard lately was someone on Twitter saying that he's the only guy in the world who knows all the pharmaceuticals and which ones could save us from Covid and thousands are dying because he's locked up.

I think this was the subject woman tweeting.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:29 PM
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Anyway, as far as I know there are only 5 boroughs in the world.

Derby, Leicester, Lincoln, Nottingham and Stamford.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:35 PM
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I spent a fair amount of time on the prairie, thought not this year, and I've not seen a dress like that since 1989.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 3:38 PM
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for the curious but strangely helpless:

https://tomandlorenzo.com/tag/the-vampires-wife/

https://tomandlorenzo.com/tag/erdem/


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 4:14 PM
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On the thing about the elevated pulse, I've never used a Fitbit, but I also get a higher pulse rate for several days after a crisis or even brief bout of deep worry about someone I'm close to.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:13 PM
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I guess the 80s are back.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:20 PM
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Alaska famously has boroughs covering vast, mostly uninhabited rural areas.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:27 PM
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For certain values of "famously."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:29 PM
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Well, we've discussed it here several times. The Unorganized Borough is a particular fan favorite.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:34 PM
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Hells yeah, Unorganized Borough! To put it in Moby units, it's 3.25 Squirrel Hills worth of people on 4.2 Nebraskas worth of oddly-shaped land.

But the Unorganized Borough isn't a borough.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:42 PM
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Also, my memory isn't the best, I guess.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:46 PM
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The North Slope Borough is of similar scale and an actual organized local government.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:57 PM
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Not really on topic, but coming to mind briar


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:59 PM
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This phone sucks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 5:59 PM
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I was trying to say somebody's pseud reminds me that my son has been playing a son about CĂș Chuliann on repeat for most of the week. Honestly, it's a bit much.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 6:01 PM
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The Pogues' Sick Bed of Cuchuliann?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FZIISfOm3dI


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 7:37 PM
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No. I think it's this one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 7:55 PM
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To me they look hideous, but I have that reaction so often to things that turn out to be considered Very Fashionable (e.g. "cold shoulders" sweaters) that I can't trust myself.

They look hideous to me, as well. And my sisters and I have a joke (which amounts to a judgement call) about that "cold shoulders" fashion trend: 'Give the cold shoulders the cold shoulder.'


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 8:01 PM
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31: I'd be very interested in knowing which gated community.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 8:07 PM
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I only skimmed the article but it seems like she's made out well from the whole thing, will probably get a book deal etc.


Posted by: torque | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 9:01 PM
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17 was exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks, jms!


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 12-23-20 11:56 PM
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57/59: Ha, that's fun but it must be intolerable after ten minutes. You'll have to take him to Irish fest when he's drinking age (well, or before, but it really improves then). Not any metal, though.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 12-24-20 3:03 AM
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