Re: Random sexism

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Zippers are inherently risky compared to buttons. Just ask the Amish .


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:30 AM
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They just want to be tugged.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:43 AM
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Tugged on buggies by horses.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:45 AM
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That must be a big zipper.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:52 AM
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Wait. Are we talking about constellations again?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:52 AM
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Amish sex life.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:53 AM
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Anyway, I'm sure there's no problem to be caused by reminding girls that middle-aged people are thinking about what is under their outer clothes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 7:59 AM
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Under where?

(I think a fun game as a parent is to take a joke that the kids bring home from school, and then relentlessly abuse it for years and years and years.

"Hey, look at that thing under there!")


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:11 AM
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"Which numbers are scared that 7 will eat them?"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:12 AM
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Not new at all, but this reaffirms that schools sure can police appearance and clothing if they want to - which has come up lately with respect to mask-wearing.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:19 AM
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It really has heightened the contradictions there. "You don't understand! We ask them to put their masks on, but they don't do it!"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:37 AM
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My favorite part of anti-masking advocates is how they have decided, for sound policy reasons, that they should display their faces when committing crimes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:54 AM
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I'd guess the dress code isn't clear on this point. In my experience, school administrators, faced with such ambiguity, will just make shit up and be extremely self-righteous about it.

That said, wearing a zip-up hoodie as your only non-underwear layer seems... inadvisable.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 8:58 AM
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It is such a synergistic match for a certain type of adolescent male. Wait, I can combine laziness, slovenliness, and fuck you to authority all in one single gesture that couldn't be easier, and I have cover to morph into being more or less antagonistic on a whim without having to commit to any one stance? Sign me the goddamn up!

This is based on the sizing-me-up side-eye exchanges I have with droopy-masked male college students in public indoor spaces.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 9:00 AM
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I'd guess the dress code isn't clear on this point.

It's hard to anticipate that you need to explicitly list all the different ways you're not supposed to undress your students.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 9:03 AM
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(which is in Florida and I have no connection with anyone there.)

When something stupid happens in Florida, I always assume that heebie is implicated somehow.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:31 AM
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I have my areas of intersection.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:39 AM
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Hidden by a very long hoodie.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:45 AM
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Unfortunately apparently when I was a clueless teacher unable to manage a classroom, there was a rash of kids daring each other to flash while the teacher's back was turned. My classroom was originally favored because I did not have the proverbial eyes in the back of my head. It started off with two guys competing with mooning shots, and one of them was in my class. But some of the girls in their social circle in someone else's classroom upped the ante by flash unzipping a hoody with a lace bra underneath. I gather that part of the art had morphed and became doing it enough to register but fast enough not to get photographed, and any photographs had to be bought off the lucky photographer with alcohol or favors. A different girl, in my original class, owas upset by the whole scene broke down and told her parents and they told me and it set off a whole Title IX investigation. The kid who started it in my class apologized and stopped, and her parents said they were satisfied with my response but not the larger issue and took her out of the school after the semester ended. Since everything was on a need to know basis I never found out how the admin finally squelched it but it was very disruptive, and I think profoundly upsetting to this girl.

This in no way justifies any of the interactions described in the OP. But it gave me a new appreciated for the downside of zippers on the primary shirt.


Posted by: Ms. Ineffectual Former Teacher | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:46 AM
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Montana kindly requests that you hold its beer: https://www.mtpr.org/post/montana-house-advances-dress-code-requiring-suits-and-ties

They're not undressing women senators yet, but that's right around the corner.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:49 AM
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19: Holy moly, that is a crazy mess.

The only solution is to also have teachers unzip the boys' pants and verify that there's no moon down there.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:52 AM
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20: That seems so.... un-Montana! Like, they should require everyone have two days of scruffy stubble, Wranglers, and a length of rope and an unpretentious yet practical pocketknife on them.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:54 AM
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In junior high, there was a kid in my class who would go back to the pencil sharpener and take out his penis/balls. He's dead now, only one of us so far.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 10:57 AM
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AIMHBALO, my dad set up a dress code for lawyers before his court entirely to stop them from playing cowboy for the jury.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:02 AM
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23: Ashes to ashes, shavings to shavings. In the end, we're all ground down.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:03 AM
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24: WERE THEY CATS??


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:03 AM
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No. Middle-aged white dudes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:07 AM
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Would they at least allow bolo ties?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:07 AM
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That was forbidden explicitly.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:08 AM
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I remember so much because he made me retype it so he had a copy in Apple Works.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:09 AM
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Does Montana also have the thing of people moving from Maryland or whatever, and from then on wearing a cowboy hat and affecting an accent, like Texas does?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:10 AM
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That seems a little harsh. They could just unzip the bolo tie and check what's underneath.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:10 AM
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Now I'm down a rabbit hole of reading articles about bolo ties in Montana government...

"To have some high school say that a bolo tie is not a tie is an outrage," said Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D), who called The Washington Post yesterday after reading an article about 17-year-old Thomas Benya.

Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:20 AM
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Who is the Beau Brummell of the Montanians?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:22 AM
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CharleyCarp.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 11:48 AM
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31: entire oil & gas industry in us - heavy drawl, turns out dude actually from connecticut, etc. now running into the same guys who've moved over to wind/solar & shedding the accent (even if still based in or frequently working in tx).


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 12:06 PM
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They still probably get sexually aroused by pollution.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 12:10 PM
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My office has reached out to the administrators in question to offer assistance in future investigations.


Posted by: Opinionated Matt Gaetz | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 12:12 PM
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also, serious endorsement of 15, & to 13.2 - ???


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 12:19 PM
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Arizona, New Mexico and Texas all have the bolo tie codified as "official state neckwear" and you can definitely wear them to court. I'm not sure how the gradient works going north.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 12:22 PM
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I've been out skiing all afternoon, sorry. It was glorious.

I have a couple of bolo ties. I've never worn them at a jury trial, or in court at all, but in depositions in the East or in Europe. One has a silver clasp, with Gov Schweitzer's logo, and the other has a big turquoise clasp and was given to me by a Navajo band I was working with. I don't take insults of the latter one lightly.

Our congressman is from Maryland, and mispronounces the name of the state. And is a real jerk. And yes, he bought some little land way out east and acts like he's some kind of rancher (without any livestock). It's all pretty pathetic, but Trump has defined inauthenticity so far down that there just aren't any standards at all. Will the census mean I am not longer represented by him? Looks quite possible.

One of my favorite east-side politicians is Barbara Bessette, a nationally competitive barrel racer -- that is, a real cowgirl (and also Indigenous) -- who's been saying that when she wins her seat back next election, she's going to show up wearing only a tie.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 3:54 PM
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How on Earth does anyone from any part of the US mispronounce Montana?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 3:56 PM
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The wind/solar accent is probably going to be the California climber accent. Chalk hobos? I forget.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 3:57 PM
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Maryland Matt, as he's known in Dem circles, pulls it off.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 4:03 PM
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He calls it Mattana.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-21 4:12 PM
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How is "Jolyon Maugham" the name of a prominent activist barrister rather than a manager at a mutual society in a Dickens novel?

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 1-21 2:18 PM
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45: wait, are you serious? Or was that an early April fools?


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 04- 1-21 3:07 PM
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47: I was not serious! It was just me being silly. But it's true that the guy from 46 calls it "Maughamana".


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 04- 1-21 3:24 PM
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@46 the answer is that it is both.

On the OP, I had a school uniform where a particular shirt had to be of a certain material, and not of the material of the similar (mostly indistinguishable, in colour and form) shirt that we wore on other occasions.


Posted by: chris s | Link to this comment | 04- 3-21 4:40 PM
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