Re: Changebad

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I'm not sure it's demonstrated we can cope with change even at a linear level.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:11 AM
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Falling is an exponential process which explains why the Greeks were so afraid when the bird dropped a turtle and killed the bald guy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:12 AM
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1. is a fair point.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:20 AM
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Maybe our guts are logs.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:21 AM
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It seems to me that at the micro level, you're always going to have a lot of individual variation. Which grandkids survive to adulthood, which get caught up in a plague or war, which marry into another village, which emigrate to a distant location. You're a Celt and some asshole Jutes show up to marry all your granddaughters and your great grandkids all speak some strange gibberish. The wife you picked for your second son dies in childbirth with her fourth kid, and the step-mother works to favor her kids over the first batch, deflecting the lives of grandkids not yet realized.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:27 AM
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The last is what people mean when they ask for a fairy tale romance.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 7:44 AM
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Interestingly, though, a whole lot of human perception is logarithmic.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 8:18 AM
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Does the history have to be recorded in that specific time and place? Because if not surely Australia or more specifically Tasmania about six thousand years after the ice age has to be in with a shout.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 8:39 AM
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I've been toying with moderating my stance to "all nostalgia is potentially bad." Final position being hashed out in committee.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 9:14 AM
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8 was my thought as well.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 9:16 AM
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4 to 7.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 10:00 AM
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|| NMM 2 Edward de Bono. So, linear thinking it is. |>


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 10:36 AM
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"This Gut Makes Logs"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 10:42 AM
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The olds have been complaining about the youths at least since the invention of writing, and by historical standards, not much changed. Competing evolutionary hypothesis: by age 30 our brains calcify the world into 'the way things are' which soon becomes 'the way things outta be' and then anything different is an aberration.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 11:45 AM
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Which explains why I rejected "totes".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 11:50 AM
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15: Totes.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 12:16 PM
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I was working in agricultural extension 20 years ago when I was given an extension bulletin from the 1920's. I could have changed the date at the top and sent it out and no one would have known the difference. I decided it was hopeless and moved on to a different job.


Posted by: Out West | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 1:19 PM
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My friend's sister was on Backyard Farmer, the extention's tv show.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 1:42 PM
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|| Mostly unmasked, 50,000-person Bitcoin conference goes about like you would expect. |>


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 5:13 PM
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The whole thing is a pump and dump anyway.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 5:21 PM
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Heebie, from what I've read over at Delong's blog, basically any time before the Industrial Revolution, had the attribute you're looking for. True, life changed slowly over centuries, but still, look at any 2-3 century stretch, and things were remarkably the same for almost all people.


Posted by: Chetan Murthy | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 10:29 PM
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I have a different take on olds complaining about the young, that we were all callow shitheads when we were young. I would apologize to my parents, but they are conveniently dead, so I'm off the hook.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 11:27 PM
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A surprising amount changed in the European Middle Ages, but slowly -- except for the Black Death or, if you were a French peasant in hitherto peaceful Gascony, the English.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 11:30 PM
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But basically, any agricultural society is going to involve a shitload of back-breaking monotonous labour with no chance of change at least until fossil fuels are exploited on a large scale. Rice paddies, wheat fields, and so on. A lot of stoop labour even before cash crops like sugar and cotton. One third of the population of Anglo-Saxon England were slaves in 1065. After the conquest they were maybe called "villeins" instead, but it didn't really improve their status.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 06-10-21 11:36 PM
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Some period between anatomically modern humans and the Neolithic, GY's 8 being a contender. I was going to say simply halfway through, but I doubt there was that much continuity. What NW says for the Middle Ages is AFAIK true in every society we can see, even where evidence is limited to stone tools. The 19C view of pre-modern stasis is utterly wrong.


Posted by: MC | Link to this comment | 06-11-21 12:20 AM
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That's a compelling idea about Buddhism. Heebie, was this the uncle that you've mentioned to me in the past?


Posted by: Trivers | Link to this comment | 06-11-21 2:45 PM
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Trivers!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-11-21 2:49 PM
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