Re: Dinner time

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Pilaf technique! It's a good and reasonably common thing with grains. I admit it hadn't occurred to me to try it with pasta before I saw this or something similar a year ago, but I totally believe that it works. Brown is flavor!


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:17 PM
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Haven't done it with noodles except in specific cases, but for a lot of dishes I'll fry the rice a little first. I've always just called it frying.

Don't think it is a placebo, but then I would think that.


Posted by: grumbles | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:19 PM
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Isn't that how Rice-a-Roni works?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:25 PM
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The rice is in the pan when you are browning the little pasta sticks, but the rice doesn't brown, only the pasta.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:38 PM
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You mean the San Francisco treat? never made it.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:40 PM
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It was my go to dinner when I was living alone in college and graduate school.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:43 PM
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5 was me.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:56 PM
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My go-to dinner was to buy a jar of marinara and a loaf of bakery bread, and to spoon the marinara onto pieces that I tore off.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 4:57 PM
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My fancy dinner for myself was to make my own sauce (starting with tomato paste), cook some kind of meat in it (sausage, roast - I never learned meatballs then), and it it with bread like that instead of cooking pasta. I don't really like pasta so much as the stuff that is served with it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:01 PM
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Or White Castle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:04 PM
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I've used this technique with paella, pilaf, pad Thai, fideuá (the latter a Spanish version I assume is related to the Mexican.)


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:05 PM
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You guys have fancier White Castles.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:07 PM
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I had a meal kit which was a Mexican style soup in a tomato base with spaghetti broken up into 1 inch pieces and beans. You browned the spaghetti first. It was better than I thought it would be.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:32 PM
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That's not a very strong endorsement.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:38 PM
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Risotto too. But I've never done it with pasta.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 5:48 PM
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I regularly fry up leftover cooked pasta with eggs and chilis for brwakdast. Uncle Nigeĺs explanatory video about fried rice i Also liked.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 6:51 PM
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I regularly fry up leftover cooked pasta with eggs and chilis for brwakdast. Uncle Nigeĺs explanatory video about fried rice i Also liked.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 6:51 PM
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I kinda love brwakdast. Kind of like the Chicken Lady was overcome while speaking.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 8-21 7:07 PM
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This is also the technique (with rice) in Saint Elizabeth David's kedgeree, a truly wonderful dish.


Posted by: NW | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 12:01 AM
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5: It's pretty astonishing how sticky that refrain is. The other Brits may correct me, but as far as I'm aware Rice-a-Roni was never sold in the UK, so I could only have picked up the jingle as a young kid in the 80s when I was spending a few weeks a year with family in the US and watching US TV. Yet I still remember the jingle.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 2:31 AM
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I do this all the time with rice or with other grains like freekeh or barley. It's my basic go-to "can't think of anything else" to just do a kind of pilaf/pilau with whatever ingredients* and type of rice or grain I have to hand. To the extent that when cooking for myself, I would happily do this multiple days a week and with basmati, the whole thing takes about 15 - 20 minutes, start to finish. I have done it with pasta, too, but only with small pasta like orzo, where I'll do a quasi-risotto thing. Fry the orzo in some olive oil and/or bacon fat and garlic, top up with some stock, cook until tender and stir through some peas or broccoli or whatever, add parmesan or pecorino. Easy.

* this could be anything. Chorizo, prawns, bacon, beef or lamb mince (in which case I'll add spices and make something like a keema biryani/pilau).


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 3:20 AM
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I feel like someone should teach the Mexicans how to make an easy dinner with just cream of mushroom soup, a can of tuna, and a distain for any kind of edible texture.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 6:13 AM
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And someone should go to France and expound on how to make anything better with Miracle Whip.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 7:20 AM
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You know how there's American-Chinese restaurants which are different from Authentic Chinese restaurants? (Or sub in any cuisine.)

That'd be great to go somewhere else, and alongside the American-Themed restaurant, you could have an Actual-Midwest Dining restaurant, with all the grotesqueries that grandma used to make in the 70s in the heartland.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 7:50 AM
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It could be called "Karen's Place".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 8:15 AM
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24: I feel like the closest cultural equivalent that's actually restaurants is buffets rather than diners.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 8:29 AM
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Buffets are automatically Swedish.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 9:29 AM
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It's cultural appropriation to Americanize the smorgasbord.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 9:33 AM
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Like how I have a real Trangia burner and a fake one from China.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 9:36 AM
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28: Truly inexcusable cultural appropriation -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNuo_T406w


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 9:40 AM
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That'd be great to go somewhere else, and alongside the American-Themed restaurant

Don't Greek diners offer a reasonable version of that?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 10:12 AM
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https://www.thekitchn.com/why-so-many-classic-all-night-diners-are-greek-243252


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 10:13 AM
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30: The 70s were a horror all around.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 10:21 AM
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31: They don't serve, say, tuna fish casserole or chicken spaghetti. I bet they wouldn't even know a pimento cheese sandwich if it sat down and ordered a gyro. Or at least I've never had one.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 10:33 AM
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30. Mason Reese went on to become a restaurateur.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 11:01 AM
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A good one?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 11:03 AM
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5: It's pretty astonishing how sticky that refrain is.

I once lived in an apartment facing one of the streetcar routes, and when the streetcar hove into view on the hillcrest we could usually hear the ding! ding!

And even after a year of this I was humming the jingle to myself.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 07- 9-21 1:44 PM
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Perkins is authentic Midwestern fare. Don't see it outside the Midwest. Bland and filling.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 11:17 AM
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Perkins is authentic Midwestern fare. Don't see it outside the Midwest. Bland and filling.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 11:17 AM
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The one my parents used to go to after church was replaced by a Chick-fil-A.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 11:44 AM
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We had one in Gainesville when I was growing up.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 1:52 PM
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Chick-Fil-A?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 2:39 PM
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Both. There was a song, "I'm at the Chik-Fil-A. I'm at the Perkins. I'm at the combination..."


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 3:35 PM
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I am learning now that at Red Sox games, they play "llorar y llorar" when a Spanish player gets out. I'm kind of gobsmacked by a joke resting solely on someone's race or ethnicity in a setting like that in 2021. Call me a sheltered darling, but.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 3:40 PM
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Boston is committed to racism in sports.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-10-21 3:48 PM
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