Re: Friday links

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Can next year's camp be alternative rock themed so you can call it "Deaf Camp for Cutie"?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:44 AM
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1: How long have you been waiting for an appropriate opportunity to spring this punstrosity?

I love it.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 8:31 AM
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Mostly I just wonder how puns work in ASL.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 8:33 AM
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I imagine some signs resemble other signs and so you can swap them in to make everyone sign the sign for groaning.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 8:54 AM
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Coda & Soda are kind of weird terms- CODA came first, meaning the (hearing) children of deaf people, and then SODA followed from that. Both of them are meant to denote hearing people who are immediate family members of deaf people and thus more deeply connected to the deaf community than your average run of the mill hearing person.

But "soda kids" are not actually the siblings of deaf adults- they are the siblings of deaf kids. I guess they are SODAs to be. Anyway the acronym has taken on its own life.

Thanks for posting!


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 9:32 AM
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3: Pasteurized milk is the ASL pun I always hear about.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 9:42 AM
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Hahaha. That one is so bad.

There are normal puns, where you just use signs that look like other signs. But there's also a whole category of puns that are based on English words.

For example, if you make the sign for "milk" but you move it past your eyes while you make it, you have now produced "past-your-eyes milk"


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 9:45 AM
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That's great. It's actually painful to experience.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 9:47 AM
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Be the pain you want to cause in the world.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 10:05 AM
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I'm not familiar with SODA, did I just somehow miss it or was it coined more recently than 1998?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 2:42 PM
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In the midwest, it's usually "POP" (Partners of People with deafness).


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 2:51 PM
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I suppose it's probably gotten a lot more common for siblings to learn ASL than it was in the era where most Deaf kids went to Deaf Schools? Are there a lot of SODAs who are native ASL speakers?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 2:58 PM
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It varies somewhat but it's been (obviously, one hopes) known best practice for quite a long time that you want everyone in your family to be able to communicate with your deaf kid which requires the whole family to learn the language. Younger siblings are more likely to sign than older siblings overall but there are plenty of older siblings who are highly motivated- not "native" but fluent.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 4:40 PM
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My mom's cousin that I don't talk to hardly even tried to get his son to lip read instead of the family learning ASL. I don't think it worked, but I haven't seen him in a while. His sister is either a "quiverful" supporter or really bad at birth control. She can hear, but I don't know if she knows ASL. Anyway, the 70s were fucked up.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 4:45 PM
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Maybe I should email him and see what he's up to? He's my age, but I have never seen him as an adult.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 4:50 PM
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Many families try to get their deaf kids to lipread so that the rest of the family doesn't have to learn ASL. It usually results in the deaf member not being particularly invested/interested in family interactions, as soon as they're old enough to make their own decisions about how to spend their time.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 4:56 PM
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My uncle hears perfectly fine and doesn't want anything to do with them either.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:21 PM
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Right that 16 is common makes SODA seem extremely different than CODA. But I suppose the people in 16-like families probably don't end up learning terms like SODA.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:28 PM
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There's probably not a good way to email someone you have not spoken to in 35 years and ask if he's never at family functions with his parents just because he has better things to do or because he has issues with them personally and/or politically.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:30 PM
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There are codas who don't really sign, too. I think both terms generally imply "from a signing family", and the reason for a sibling-specific term is that if you're from a family that signs and has since you were a child, you will have a much stronger command of the language than people who learn it as an adult.

I would be pretty irritated if an adult who had a deaf sibling but did not sign at all referred to themself as a soda.

On the other hand children who have deaf siblings are invited to this camp even if they don't sign, because we'd like to encourage them to.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:36 PM
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I would be pretty irritated if an adult who had a deaf sibling but did not sign at all referred to themself as a soda.

If you punch them, it will be soda pop.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:38 PM
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Also, probably assault, so it's not a good idea.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:39 PM
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A salty soda pop?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:47 PM
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Like Jones Soda when they make the Thanksgiving flavors.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 5:50 PM
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We don't keep soda in the house because nobody drinks it. I guess, Go Health!


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-16-21 6:59 PM
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It's that special time again: time for the Siberian fire update, now right up in my face in the New York Times. Back to my hermit's life again. (Belated congratulations on the job, Barry!)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 07-17-21 8:12 PM
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Alaska's fire season has been pretty quiet so far, but we are getting smoke from the Siberian fires.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-18-21 2:01 AM
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Sometimes smoke travels slow, but other times it's Russian.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-18-21 3:24 AM
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We've been smoked in for days, and this is apparently going to last until fall. There's a sort of dawning realism that this is really happening, earlier than usual, and it's not just going to go away. I'm not saying that by mid-August some local is going to snap and kill a tourist, but I don't think anyone, other than the tourist, would be surprised.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-18-21 7:04 AM
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That's one way to prevent forest fires.


Posted by: Opinionated Smokey the Bear | Link to this comment | 07-18-21 7:11 AM
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