Re: that'll show us

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The official didn't do that. She sent a memo clarifying state law,which allows teens to seek some medical treatment without parental consent.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:05 AM
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This is all about wanting won women to get cervical cancer, isn't it?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:24 AM
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Realistically, isn't a noticeable death toll among the unvaccinated over the next few months pretty much baked into the estimates even for "best case" scenarios?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:40 AM
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HPV vaccine isn't mandated here; I think RI did mandate it. We had a legislator seek to narrow the exemptions to medical with no philosophical/ religious option. (The only religion I know that is actually against vaccines is Christian Science. Their world headquarters is here, but there aren't that many of them.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:40 AM
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Technically, you can only have one world headquarters.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:43 AM
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It's just striking how we keep drifting apart.

A friend of mine lives in Memphis, and she said the local health departments in the cities still have a lot of power to promote stuff, so that mitigates some of the damage.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:45 AM
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5: One headquarters for not that many Christian Scientists.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:46 AM
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3: Kids too, you mean? Everybody's saying they don't need to wear masks anymore.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:46 AM
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Anyway, I acknowledge that lots of the unvaccinated won't be people avoiding vaccination for Trump-related reasons and that outreach is important, but it does not follow from that that you can fix this by more pressure. The Trump-related reasons have made the problem unfixable in the short-term and a certain amount of death is going to make a longer-term solution more likely.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:50 AM
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7: I may have known that and made the joke regardless.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:51 AM
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8: Death among kids is still only a remote possibility, though significant and potentially lingering illness is not.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:54 AM
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I think groundwork is being laid, at least persuasively, for mandates, maybe at concerts and other big events, maybe also as condition for employment of various types. But I doubt California will take it up a day before the recall votes are counted.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:56 AM
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The ability to enforce a mandate is close to non-existent here because the only proof of vaccination is an easily copied piece of paper. California may be different. I mostly just look at people and make my own decision about risk. Which is going to lead to 6.1.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:02 AM
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Let me be the first to recommend developing a set of stereotypes about the white petit bourgeois, but keeping it to yourself for political reasons.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:12 AM
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13: Canada is about to open the borders. Right now, [Tim] as a Canadian citizen has less onerous requirements to enter the country than I do. My understanding is that they are moving to a requirement for both vaccination and a PCR test. I'm wondering what kind of vaccine verification system will get used in that setting.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:14 AM
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Me too. I'm very late planning a vacation.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:15 AM
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Also, you forgot your own husband's name.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:18 AM
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8- Pediatrician group recommends masks for all kids in school. Our 8 year old prefers to wear a mask when we go out. We have to explicitly tell her when she doesn't have to or she'll always put one on.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:18 AM
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She has become the night.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:20 AM
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15 and 17: Can an administrator change that to his pseudonym Tim please?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:24 AM
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18: The "everyone" was the people on the right. Emily Oster and folks like that. American Academy of Pediatrics says that. Weirdly Canadian children's hospitals have been saying it's harmful to kids to wear masks.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:26 AM
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20:. I thought you found yourself a new Canadian husband.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:29 AM
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Once you go North, you're there thenceforth.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:31 AM
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I would die for Riley take a vaccine for you.


Posted by: Opinionated Canadian Husband | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:40 AM
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A pseudotim


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 7:59 AM
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Michelle Goldberg and Paul Krugman are both good in the NYT today on vaccine looniness and related phenomena.

I haven't actually read Arendt, but I keep seeing quotes of hers that absolutely nail Trumpism. This one via Goldberg today: "Self-centeredness, therefore, went hand in hand with a decisive weakening of the instinct for self-preservation."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 8:04 AM
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Depravity. The theme visible through the barely translucent cant and shibboleths is always violence: "I have the right to and am willing to shoot you if I don't like you or what you want me to do; I have the right to threaten, endanger and dominate others, especially women and children, and you have no right to limit my power to do so."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 8:18 AM
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And if you endanger back, they have the right to limit you.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 10:19 AM
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I have wondered here before what the long term impact of associating "conservative" with "belligerent asshole" will be. My guess is more belligerent assholes, but I haven't gone further with the analysis.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 11:14 AM
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In the long run there won't be very many conservatives.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 12:57 PM
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I know there are only 30 comments, but can I jump in early to lmao at Jeff Bezos saying shit? "Jeff Bezos thanked every Amazon employee and customer 'because you guys paid for all of this,' prompting swift criticism."
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Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:03 PM
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"Yes, exactly; that's why everyone is mad at you."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:12 PM
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He shaped the rocket like a penis. What more do people want?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:20 PM
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Are we allowed to post good news here? I thought this was encouraging.

Strictly speaking it might not be good news, I guess. But it's funny, and a small piece of evidence that the upcoming generation of fascists might not be any smarter than Trump and his zealots.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:45 PM
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31: From that same article --

"This is a moment of American exceptionalism," Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, said when asked about the flight during a Tuesday news conference.

We are awfully special, aren't we?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:46 PM
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We didn't fuck space, but at least we grinded it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 1:50 PM
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It's a clear as the guys holding a fire hose in the "Cherry Pie" video.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 2:26 PM
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Time to revisit Vonnegut's "The Big Space Fuck".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 3:28 PM
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I could use a new check-in thread

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Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 4:52 PM
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okie-dokie, artichokie. One sec.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 5:52 PM
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To 34: Cheating at College Republican conventions is the norm. The convention is a testing ground for people who hope to become Republican political operatives, and a successful cheater increases his hire ability.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-20-21 6:30 PM
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31: Despite my pseudonym, I'm confused about why people were bothered by Bezos saying this seemingly obviously true thing. Why should a billionaire not acknowledge and thank the sources of his wealth? I mean, sure, it's not as good as raising wages, but it's not harmful, is it?


Posted by: Yeet the Rich | Link to this comment | 07-21-21 6:33 AM
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I took it as having an unspoken "so long suckers."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-21-21 7:12 AM
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42. There is nothing he could have said that wouldn't outrage some significant (or at least vocal) fraction of the luddites.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 07-21-21 10:14 AM
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