It's probably part of a fundamental human need to say, "I told you so." I think that's in Freud.
Also, a desire to be right even at the risk of your life even when you must know you're fucknuts. Like the guy who tested his homemade proto-parachute using the Eiffel Tower and gravity.
And then after reading this post I saw this one of a singer-songwriter whose new antivaxxism made most of his business partners disassociate. But of course I had just been primed to click on that.
I think these stories became more frequent when it became clear that people were really serious about not getting vaccinated.
The real treasure is the friends whose lives you risked along the way.
Someone else read the bit of Bob Cialdini's "Influence" about "surprising validators"?
Not only are those refusing to be vaxxed selfishly risking the lives of those around them. They are also selfishly and stupidly providing a pool in which more mutations can form.
Am I just being partisan?
8.2: Depends. If this is one, isolated view, you are still plausibly nonpartisan. But if you also believe in evolution and favor action against climate change, you're a zealot with no regard for other people's opinions.
"Marky got with Sharon, Sharon got Sherice.
She was sharin' Sharon's outlook on the topic of disease.
Mikey had a facial scar, and Bobby was a racist.
They were all in love with dyin', they were doin' it in Texas..."
I also think it's interesting to note who most of them are. For example, Tucker Carlson is vocal "vaccine skeptic", but I'm pretty sure he got it, because he weasels out of answering the question. Also, Fox has an internal COVID clearance/vaccination verification app. So, Laura Ingraham is probably vaccinated.
On the other hand, these local Conservative Radio hosts are getting really sick and dying. I wonder if some of it is about letting people know that the perplex who are really like them are getting sick and dying.
12 is a really interesting point. The conservative media ecosystem is complex and while the rhetoric is mostly the same you can see the different effects of it in different sectors.
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Are we throwing some kind Bash Andrew Cuomo Bash for Lizard Breath ?
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Fox News has a vaccine passport requirement for their own employees. I'm sure Tucker Carlson is vaccinated.
Yeah, the line between who is running the scam and who is being scammed is complicated. This is the weird thing about say MTG where you have someone who is like the local radio hosts and not like Tucker but is actually in congress. I don't know if Fox is stricter about making sure their hosts are in on the scam or not. In particular, I feel like Glenn Beck was different in this way from the other big Fox personalities. Beck says he hasn't been vaccinated because he already had covid, and I he might well be telling the truth.
10: I tried to find it for the OP, but couldn't figure out the right keywords. My memory is that they were a "gang of six" or somesuch title, and I thought it was in the Texas legislature.
I think 8.1 is not a serious concern, if that's your worry then we should just forget about vaccinating more Americans and send the vaccines to countries that will use them. Unvaccinated Americans are a rounding error on the worldwide unvaccinated.
12: saiselgy recently said that his assumption is that when an athlete is being a coy about the vaccine, they haven't been jabbed, but if a politician is being coy, they have.
8: Right, so now you need to tweet about this as a 45-follower account so the Times can quote you as proof that liberals hate the unvaxxed.
20: In the case case of Chris Paul (who missed a playoffs game because of COVID protocols), he apparently had been vaccinated but didn't want to talk about it because of his position with the player's union.
(https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1424385016595943432)
I think 19 is quite correct. The pool of unvaccinated people is really big, and Ravalli County Montana has some of them, but probably not enough to be where you'd expect variants. (Which, obviously, can occur anywhere, but are more likely where the pool is bigger.)
It's still a decent bit of rhetoric, and I think a whole lot less 'well, actually' nitpicking would have been, and still would be, helpful. People are grabbing hold of any excuse they can think of to justify the choice they want to make.
11: Teddy sniffing glue he was twelve years old
Fell from the roof on East Two-nine
Cathy was eleven when she pulled the plug
On twenty six reds and a bottle of wine
Bobby got leukemia, fourteen years old
He looked like sixty five when he died
He was a friend of mine
I want people everywhere, in India, Africa, Latin America, wherever, to be vaccinated. I accept the conclusion. Every bit helps.
Anyway, death comes us all but when it comes for me, if the Washington Post is going to make note of it, I'd prefer people didn't feel smugly superior while reading about it.
The point is to avoid being a cautionary tale.
If you get it in the end, you're a cautionary tail.
Apparently the chancellor of the local land grant university and his epidemiologist are convinced that this current surge is just the residual end-of-June/July 4th holiday weekend spike, and it's on its way out. Nothing to see here, folks.
If I do have to be a cautionary tale, I'd prefer something in the Felix Faure line.
It's kind of hard to believe 4th of July is going to produce a spike but something like the start of school isn't. Unless fireworks are a confined indoor space thing in Texas.
Boy the rules around covid testing for flying into the US are confusing. So much technical lingo describing test option that don't seem to be used by the people actually offering the tests. But mostly it just seems insane that I'll need a test to fly back from Germany but wouldn't need one to fly from Florida.
I think they just want to discourage you from driving out of Florida because you can bring so much more meth to the rest of the country that way.
32: It would not totally surprise me if they were.
The U.S. is still below the U.K. in deaths per capita. I didn't expect that would continue.
The UK and many European countries had a tendency toward higher peaks and lower troughs in death rates. I can't really figure out why that would be.
Probably something to do with having more bidets.
The U.S. is still below the U.K. in deaths per capita. I didn't expect that would continue.
Where are you getting that? Statista says 7-day deaths per million for US is 10.03, for UK 7.38.
Or checking that against the respective national websites, US reports 3,048 deaths in the past 7 days, UK 488, which works out to 9.2 and 7.32 per million.
Is it too soon to go looking for a Moderna booster shot if I got the Pfizer?
To answer my own question, almost certainly yes. But I'm going to keep my eye on this.
Ah so the cool kids feel the need to slum when things get the least bit wobbly in their own neighborhood...
At first glance, it seems like a very well done study.
Got tested today. PCR so will be a bit to find out. Did it via Allegheny County and was an interesting scene as a plastic and rubber-armored dude stood next to a van in a parking lot walking small groups through the self-swab process as a massive storm loomed in the background.
Both. early this afternoon, in Homewood.
Tomorrow I have to say "Bulgogi" in public. I'm about 50-50 on that.
suspect i fought off an infection with our modern plague contracted during 2nd or 3rd trip to l.a., there was a fierce battle in my left sinus a sore throat, cycled through & disposed of in 3 days. with the normal run of respiratory virus i'm down for the count for 10 days, lingering opportunistic bacterial lung infection, antibiotics once pneumonia develops, then several months of asthma. this was a vicious, short, sharp experience. all fucking hail vaccines. didn't get a test so will never know for sure.
Supposedly, I had asthma as a kid. Personally, I think it was just because my dad smoked two packs a day until I was in high school.
A kid in high school calls for three packs a day.
I keep adding extra syllables unless I stare at the word.
I want it to sound Italian, like Boli-go-gi.
50: Take care of yourself, DQ.
no worries, bostonienne - this was a trip several weeks ago. am getting v tired of bh hotel living, tho! sept should involve less travel, yay. need to swim a lot bc mid sept will be my first club triathlon wooohoooo! (am swimming & volunteering only, not rowing or running.)
This post should have been titled "Anti-vaxxer in the streets, intubated between the sheets."
Pittsburgh did not drop below 300,000 people. Hooray.
And Allegheny County grew. I was a bit surprised how many rust belt cities grew -- Buffalo for instance. And the NYC growth was pretty astounding to me.
OMG. School board meeting right now on whether to mandate masks in defiance of Abbott. The citizen comments were so terrifying and nutty. Our pediatrician spoke on behalf of mask-wearing and now I'm worried she's going to get threats and targeted.
this is so stressful. Now they're in executive session so they can talk to their lawyer privately.
That's probably a good idea. You guys aren't Houston-big.
The district for the town where I work just shot down mask mandates. "Parental choice," they said. Would not have expected better from a group of people that moved to this area to escape taxes associated with living in town and wanting to make sure their kids attend the "best" schools . . .
I think the "good schools" suburban districts near the city will mask. Too many doctors.
Presumably, your district will be sued by tomorrow.
OT-ish: This article really says a lot of things I have been thinking but not seen in print from a major source before now. Key quote for those who don't open links: "When people keep saying they're fantasizing about how great it would be, and feel, to kill you, believe them."
Back on the census, apparently growth in Hispanic Texans outnumbered growth in white Texans 11-1. That's a whole lot.
Heebie: I just hope and pray that they aren't the kind of Hispanics who say "We're Spanish, not {Mexican,Nicaraguan,Guatemalan,etc}". Sigh.
74:
These politicians and pundits are playing the familiar political game of outbidding, always taking rhetoric to the next level in order to gain attention and become the champion of a passionate group.
That's nice and pithy. I hadn't seen that term used before, but I've wondered at the phenomenon for years: it's especially pronounced around abortion, an area where I long ago lost track of the leading edge of insanity. However, the piece seems like it's missing the half where he talks about Middle East parallels in detail.
79: They're mostly Mexican/Nicaraguan/Guatemalan or just plain being born here, I think. But I don't really know what anyone says about themselves.
Salt Lake County struck down the health order that would have mandated masks for K-6 for 30 days. Protesters waving insurrectionist flags and kids being coached to say wearing a maks is just like the Holocaust. I never want to hear again how much Utahns value family and children.
Be honest. Did you really want to hear it before?
I'm so angry. We're not allowed to mandate masks at the university level either so I guess this is the fall where my family gets sick and hopefully it's not serious.
82: I saw that the Mormon church just endorsed vaccines and masking. Will that make any difference?
86: One would think! They endorsed it a while ago. But Trump is the new religion, and being a fascist lickspittle is more important to being Mormon than listening to their faith leaders, I guess. Not my circus, not my monkeys. I'm bewildered. I figured we'd be in decent shape early on the in pandemic. The LDS line was pretty sensible, the state bought masks for everyone before it became politically impossible (our arrived in the mail last April or something), and I figured the Mormons would listen to their religious leaders and us out-of-state liberal interlopers ruining things with our craft beer and educational attainment could follow the science. We have a very stubborn 20% of crazies and they gerrymandered the state, so, here we are. School starts next Friday. We have more cases now than we did last summer, and we can't take the simplest of precautions.
To be fair, #notallMormons. Plenty of my friends and colleagues are mystified, but everything south of SLC has lost its damned mind.
89: here in liberal MA, we have some ID experts who are a bit out of touch w/ reality saying it's ok to have unvaccinated kids unmasked, because of community vaccination if we test regularly. Cases here are going up - particularly among kids. Brookline, MA is a pretty vaccinated community, but even though I support regular testing, I think they are deluding themselves. Also, if testing and quarantine requires parents stay home from work, a lot of them won't test.
Cases here are low compared to the mountain west, but they've gone up a lot in the past month.
How self referential. 89:to 86. Maybe I'm dyslexic.