Re: Do the Hustle

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I feel like the olds went from "don't trust anything on the internet" to "believe whatever some asshat puts on Facebook" in about two seconds while I wasn't paying attention.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:15 AM
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1: It's odd how extreme cynicism and extreme gullibility often go together.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:21 AM
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I'm guessing it has something to do with the subset who wanted to believe that Obama wasn't eligible to be the president.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:22 AM
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Somewhere I read the sentiment in 1 phrased as "Everything that our parents worried about video games doing to our brains turned out to be true, except it was done by Fox News to them."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:27 AM
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That's true, but then the internet outdid Fox.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:30 AM
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5: I would really love to see a study comparing twitter, Facebook, and old people e-mail forwards in terms of the effectiveness at successfully convincing people of garbage.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:36 AM
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I think it's been done and the answer is Zuckerberg killed human decency.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 7:45 AM
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I really thought the studies showed that Fox News was way more damaging than social media. I'm remembering a study where they looked at different towns according to whether Fox News occurred at a low number on the TV dial or a higher, more obscure number on the TV dial, and it ended up having a pretty big impact on the brainwashedness of the boomers? Maybe I'm overhyping it.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:04 AM
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Somehow I wound up on the "America First" email list, run by former acting secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf. Predatory spam targeted as dimwitted conservatives seems like it has its own whole thing.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:06 AM
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Remember when most of Albania fell for a pyramid scheme? I probably shouldn't have laughed.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:10 AM
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8: I remember hearing about that study, although I remember the effect as definitely significant but maybe not that large.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:22 AM
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Fox wasn't in the list in 6.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:28 AM
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10: You shoulda seen the time the ancient Egyptians did.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 8:37 AM
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1. "You can't con an honest person".

2. Most of the "side hustle to make money!" content comes from people who make money from selling "how to side hustle" products.

3. I'm not sure if this is really that much more prominent now. Back in 2009 I thought I had applied to a job; the 'onsite interview' turned out to be a high-pressure sales pitch / seminar for some kind of real estate legal fraud. I stayed for about an hour so I could get a donut. On my way out one of the other people there was like "wow this is so exciting! This is my big break!" And I just couldn't tell him he was getting fleeced.


Posted by: Yoyo | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 9:16 AM
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I'm curious why this isn't starting with series/limits? Is that actually precalc?


Posted by: Yoyo | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 9:19 AM
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Limits would be a natural place to start. I'm just giving a little motivation as to why we might care about limits.

In a typical US course at least, series usually aren't covered until a 2nd semester course, though. You can think of a series as the integral of a step-function, so it is natural to put it after students have been thinking about integration.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 9:22 AM
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We're starting with peep's base knowledge.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 9:22 AM
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There's no limit to the hustle.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 9:27 AM
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Many academics work hard in the sense of put a lot of hours into their work, but in 40 years in university life I can't remember many that I'd describe as hustlers. The [successful] ones almost always wound up running some semi-independent institute or center* where I suspect some wise administrator (now there's a phrase I don't often use) installed them so that they could exercise their unh "entrepreneurial" instincts on outside suckers wanting to "do good" through some type of involvement in university-related activities.

* occasionally a program but less often because (i) these have to be at least somewhat integrated with other academic offerings so limit the hustlers freedom of action , and (ii) are directed at students and the "wise administrator" prefer that the marks come from outside the immediate university community


Posted by: No Longer Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 10:13 AM
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Medical schools were maybe different. Everyone, at least everyone who could hire me, was all about the grants.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 10:19 AM
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There was no tenure. Everyone had to be paid off a grant.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-22 10:21 AM
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The internet is certainly poisonous, but I didn't see anything in the WaPo article that suggested anyone was being taken, much less taken via Fox or Facebook. Did I miss something?


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:38 AM
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Beer is cheaper than popcorn at the movie theater


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 12:46 PM
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I guess I could have gotten a more expensive beer but I think I got the cheapest popcorn in an adult size.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 12:57 PM
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Is Modelo using the "Corona" thing to become the Mexican beer of the North Americans? I first heard of it about seven years ago when my uncle from Texas left a six pack at my parents. I took to drinking it as my warm weather beer. It's common enough in Nebraska but there are enough people from Mexico there that it might have just been for them and my uncle. But now it's at the theater in Pittsburgh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 3:43 PM
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I know of this beer of which you speak.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 3:44 PM
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But you live in Texas. Not a hard test.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 3:45 PM
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Accord to the news, that's like right next to Mexico.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:01 PM
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I'm a fan of the Modelo Negra.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:37 PM
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In four more years, I'll be as old as John Nettles when he started playing Barnaby. I'm hoping I'll be offered the role when I'm the right age because I think I could do better than the current guy if they could write in a good justification for my accent.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:54 PM
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Corona has been the most popular Mexican beer in North America by a huge margin for decades.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:54 PM
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Now, it's quite plausible that Mexican beer as a thing is relatively new in many parts of the US.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:55 PM
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I haven't tried Corona because my theory is if people always put a lime in it, it's because it doesn't taste very good.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 4:58 PM
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The story I've heard about the lime is that it was originally used in Mexico as a topper to keep flies out of the bottle; you weren't supposed to add it to the beer. But then when it came to America Americans, as they do, misunderstood and started squeezing the lime and dropping it in. I have no idea if this is true, but the lime doesn't add much to the taste. The beer itself is okay. It's a pretty nondescript light lager.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:01 PM
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If you do ever want to try Mexican beer, I second UPETGI's recommendation of Negra Modelo.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:03 PM
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I know I've tried it before. I don't recall liking it or not.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:05 PM
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Other good Mexican beers: Dos Equis, Bohemia, Pacifico.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:08 PM
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I guess I do drink gin and tonic, but I know lots of people who are really half-assed at grocery shopping so my first ones were without a lime.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:09 PM
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I'm half-assed at shopping which is why I'm drinking mules made without lime juice and with ginger ale instead of ginger beer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:23 PM
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Any excuse to eat limes is good. In a Corona on a hot day? Yes please.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:39 PM
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Although one thing I did learn when I visited Mexico City a few years back is that Mexicans have ways of cutting limes that we gringos do not understand.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 5:40 PM
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It's because of the cultural heritage of opening up chests with obsidian blades.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 6:04 PM
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Another Negra Modelo fan here. Pale ales in general are my favorite, and I don't know of one that I like better.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 7:43 PM
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No, it not about obsidian blood sacrifices, rather it has to do with cutting the lime across the sections rather than between sections. Here is an example of a gringo almost getting it, however I believe there is an additional embellishment to be added involving the angle of the cut.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 8:06 PM
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Those pieces are way too big to fit in a bottle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 8:07 PM
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Part of the problem is that those are big-ass American limes and not tiny Mexican ones.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-30-22 8:29 PM
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I heard (from my undergrad beer tours) that the lime is to mask the skunkyness that developed because of the clear glass bottles.

Also I'be assumed beer availability is totally tied to distribution contracts that bundle beers. Because you could get Yuengling in Alabama and then not again until like Pennsylvania. And Moosehead was the Canadian beer in Alabama and it is barely available in Ontario.

Anyway, you can get Modelo, Dos Esquis, and Corona here. Of the three, DE is the best. Pacifico is even better but maybe just because it reminds me of a long-ago trip to Mexico.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 3:40 AM
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> The point that jumps out at me is the difference between young hustling and old hustling.

The roots of the difference lie in the different lifestyle debts that needed servicing. Trevor Noah was just trying to get by and onto the next stage of his life, the dude in the article was trying to regain middle class status quickly.


Posted by: white whine deduction | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 3:40 AM
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"Pacifico is even better but maybe just because it reminds me of a long-ago trip to Mexico"
Likewise I have an affection for mass produced Spanish lagers like Mahou and Estrella even though they're probably similar to Budweiser. But when you can stop by a cafe for a €1 caña on a hot afternoon it's enjoyable.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 3:46 AM
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32: All those Mexican beers are available in New England and have been for a long time. We're so cosmopolitan here that we have Indian beer, too!


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 6:03 AM
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The huge conglomerate that bought our winery was responsible for distributing Corona, among other Mexican beers including Modelo and Pacifico, and (then) St. Pauli Girl, and a shit-ton of other beers in the US. Having taken some of my profit in stock, I followed them for quite a while (and did ok on the stock.) Looking at a chart, I see that the stock went up ten-fold from the beginning of 2011 to the beginning of 2017.

Anyway, it's no surprise anywhere in the country that the people stocking shelves with one of the brands will do so with others.

Looking down the rabbit hole a bit more, I see that Anheuser Busch had wanted to acquire those Mexican breweries a decade ago, but the DOJ filed suit to stop it.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:02 AM
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You can buy exotic beers down here like Sam Adams.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:02 AM
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This post has given me the worst ear worm


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:06 AM
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22:. You're absolutely correct. The thread has almost nothing to do with the article. I could blame Moby who famously never reads the article, but I contributed with my 2.

I would try to write something related to the article, but it is genuinely very depressing, and also I need to save all my meager supply of brain power for trying to understand heebie's calculus lessons.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:07 AM
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As explained by Wik, most Mexican beer is made by two conglomerates: FEMSA's brands today include Tecate, Sol, Dos Equis, Carta Blanca, Superior, Indio, and Bohemia. Grupo Modelo's brands include Corona, Corona Light, Negra Modelo, Modelo Especial, Victoria, Estrella, Léon, Montejo, and Pacifico.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:07 AM
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And I guess FEMSA is owned by Heineken The beer business really lends itself to this sort of consolidation.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:18 AM
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54: Actually, I did read that article weeks ago because I read the Post. I just didn't notice that it was an article I'd read until you mentioned it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:22 AM
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Anyway, I maintain that the thread might have nothing to do with article, but it was well within the bounds of the comments in the OP and that's the real standard. Until


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:26 AM
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I'm not sure the original post had much to do with the article. I was just musing on Old Hustling vs Young Hustling, and fwiw, I think our new commenter in 48 is correct.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:28 AM
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In the last year or two I made the leap to micheladas as a standard warm weather drink, no regrets, never going back.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:29 AM
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Crap. I'd assumed 48 was a spam bot. Sorry.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:30 AM
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60: Googling reveals that is beer with tomato juice. I guess I associate that not with Mexican vacations but with old men drinking in a dive bar.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:33 AM
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Why is the US missing out on Clamato juice? Very popular in Mexico and Canada.

Moosehead is actually still Canadian owned so maybe that's why it's weirdly widely available.


Posted by: hydrobatidae | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:53 AM
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62 to 63.1. It was around, but as far as I can tell, it went out of men wearing pants half-way up their chest.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 7:58 AM
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Ew.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:04 AM
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Were the pants intended for containment?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:06 AM
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I bought a four pack of micheladas when in Mexico recently and they were 1) expensive and 2) disgusting.
You can buy clamato juice in supermarkets around here but I don't think people use it very often.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:27 AM
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I found this mildly amusing although since they were actually complying with C&D letter anyway it's not as impressive that they were telling them to fuck off.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:36 AM
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What assholes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:39 AM
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Maybe their lawyer thought he was hustling?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 8:41 AM
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68. Even the most obviously stupid lawsuit is better settled than fought*, especially if the matter of contention is easy to change. Especially if you can make a joke out of it.

* "You know how a lawsuit is litigated? Your lawyer and their lawyer sit in front of a fire and throw hundred dollar bills into it. The one who runs out of bills first is the loser."


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 9:11 AM
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Gotta update that, man. They're throwing token representing the bills into the fire, while stuffing the bills into their pockets.

Or, as explained centuries ago: https://www.jack-the-ripper-tour.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/law-suit.jpg


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 9:40 AM
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OT: I understand that as an institution Chase is committed to being assholes. But I don't get why buying an excise bike from a store one mile from my house should look like fraud.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 10:34 AM
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Are they implying I'm too lazy to buy one?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 10:35 AM
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74:. We only have your best interests at heart. Having studied your purchases for years we were at first pleasantly surprised, but then we grew suspicious. Please accept our sincere apologies for doubting your commitment to a fit lifestyle.


Posted by: Opinionated Chase | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 10:51 AM
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The beer business really lends itself to this sort of consolidation.

Which is the Trollope novel with the beer-brewing hero? He annoys his gentry relatives by running his factory himself and his brewing-money relatives by insisting on a business model of making decent beer.

The two kinds of hustles are the ones that succeed and the ones that fail.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 10:51 AM
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75: I think you just went cheap on the data science.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 11:02 AM
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Hey just be glad they didn't deduct $100 billion from your savings account


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 11:35 AM
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I think that beer brewed in the Caribbean is uniformly bad. The best beer you can generally get there is Heineken.

Of the Caribbean brands, Red Stripe is the best, and its pretty bad. There are some Central American beers that are better. I think part of the problem is that barley and hops aren't really grown on Caribbean islands.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 11:55 AM
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To be fair, the conch fritters in Germany are horrible.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 11:57 AM
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Anyway, Chase has wrongly binged me for fraud when buying jewelry and when buying software, but $200 in the liquor store looks just fine to them even though I nearly always buy booze with cash.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-22 2:42 PM
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Blame it on the tracking cookies.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 05- 2-22 3:21 AM
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