Since I wrote this it's been a top item everywhere, even on Colbert last night. Pretty compelling I guess.
I am curious how they kept the Feb. 8 action so quiet given how vauntedly strong Florida's sunshine laws are supposed to be - it was approved in a public, noticed meeting, after all. I guess they somehow made it appear extremely boring.
Simply saying "rule against perpetuities" will make all non-lawyers avoid it. I assume DeSantis has shitty lawyers.
DeSantis is the type of "clever" attorney who asserts that the law means whatever damn thing I say it means. Also, really poor staff prep work if they'd didn't figure out that Disney could on its own completely mitigate whatever DeSantis pushed through the Florida Chamber of Sycophants.
As an aspiring tyrant, Bootsie should know that you have to at least minimally follow the laws until you actually have been installed as tyrant, at which point you change or ignore them as you wish. It suggests again that he is not ready for prime time as he is neither able to build a sufficiently competent staff to do the dirt right (hardly surprising giving that he's choosing from among Florida Men and Florida women) nor deft enough to respond effectively when he gets outflanked. Sort of like him saying "No more questions about Ukraine" to the press when he stuck his foot in his mouth on that issue. Yeah, that'll really work on the campaign trail. Frankly, I think Trump should be beating the hell out of DeSantis on this issue -- "I was treated the most unfairly of any president in history, horribky biased and unfair press, but DeSantanctimonious can't even answer a simple question. He's really very weak ..."
Why is Charles listed as the king of England? Does Disney know something we don't about Scotland, Wales, and/or Northern Ireland?
Good choice of a family that's got longevity genes but also would be hard to knock off by some kind of foul play. Normally wouldn't it be the life of someone closer to the deal, like one of the trustees? But harder to feed Lilibet to an alligator and make it look like an accident.
That's how a Nebraskan died in Florida, except it was an accident. That poor family.
OK, I found the Feb. 8 Board packet hosted on what appears to be a Disney-related blog; the RCID website was no help, even adding in the Wayback Machine.
It shows minutes for the first reading on Jan. 25 where it was presented as "a favored tool by Florida's local governments and developers". No public comment, no discussion, approved unanimously. And then other minutes for Feb. 8 show the same picture on second and final reading.
I only found the agenda in the archived site, no packet. The agenda just has one line of description. Maybe that's part of how they did it; the packet available to the public only upon request or something.
4: King of England is probably the one of his titles most likely to survive for his lifetime.
I would be a good King of Wales, if that opens up.
Dumb question, is he King of England? Does that title still exist after the acts of union? I don't see it in his list of titles.
Occasioned by looking up who and how many the King's grandchildren were: why are all three of William's kids also a Prince or Princess of Wales? I thought that was reserved for the heir apparent - analogously, William himself wasn't Prince of Wales until Charles acceded, so what changed?
10: King of Poland was electoral, I'm just saying.
12: "Hinterland" made Wales trendy.
13: I only want it if it's hereditary. That way I don't need to pay for college.
That Wikipedia has "issue" instead of "children" in the sidebar for royals never ceases to make me chuckle.
11: Huh, I never thought of that. I have to assume it's incorporated by reference when they say "Great Britain".
13: And it was a pretty good deal, too. Problems arose when (a) people started taking advantage of long-standing but traditionally unused veto points; and (b) Russia started manipulating elections.
Application of this obscure historical knowledge is left as an exercise for the electorate.
Also until well into the 20th century "England" was routinely used as a synonym/synecdoche for all Britain. (Cambridge History of England, etc.)
12: I'm not totally sure, but I think what's happening is that kids who don't have their own title get called by their parents title. That is, prior to Elizabeth's death William's eldest was "His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge" because he was a prince and because his father was Duke of Cambridge, not because "Prince of Cambridge" is a title on its own. Said otherwise he is "Prince George" and "of Wales" separately and not "the Prince of Wales."
15: The Jagiellonians managed to do that for about 300 years. Surely college won't last that long?
Right, but legal stuff was usually more precise, right?
22: Usually, but I can't think of any scenario in which imprecision about the precise scope of rule of the British monarch could harm this contract.
And presumably in Scotland he would be HRH Prince George of Rothesay?
Since I wrote this it's been a top item everywhere, even on Colbert last night. Pretty compelling I guess.
The curse of Afroman. If I hadn't sat on that post too long, I would have posted this when you sent it, and we'd have been out in front of all the best news stories this week.
It shows minutes for the first reading on Jan. 25 where it was presented as "a favored tool by Florida's local governments and developers". No public comment, no discussion, approved unanimously. And then other minutes for Feb. 8 show the same picture on second and final reading.
Yes, it appears they quietly followed all the official public notice rules and banked on the fact that no one pays attention to local government board meetings. (Even state governments, or at least this one.)
Normally wouldn't it be the life of someone closer to the deal, like one of the trustees?
Apparently using the royal family is a common thing, because they're likely to be long-lived and it's relatively easy to trace the genealogy.
It looks like Florida's Sunshine Act does, like California's equivalent, prevent officials from having de facto meetings by a series of one-on-one conversations. But with all the then-RCID board members being Disney employees that's probably exceedingly hard to enforce - they could even all have received the same memo from higher-ups instructing them to approve with a minimum of discussion.
Also they apparently got rolling on this almost a year ago, when DeSantis signed the original bill.
I'm not about to start paying attention to local government meetings and I don't encourage any one else to do so. But, it would seem to me that if you created a law specifically designed to fuck over a small group of people but that doesn't come into effect for a long time, you'd watch what that group of people does before they are fucked over. That's like "tying the hero to await his dead and the leaving, assuming he dies."
This is the problem with a party that has run off everyone who is competent and good at doing things.
30: Especially if that small group controls one of the richest and most powerful companies in the world.
I mean obviously RDS doesn't actually care what Disney does and on some level it's all kayfabe. But he needs to pay some attention or headlines like this come out and he looks like an incompetent idiot.
From time to time, if you aspire to being evil, you need to review the Evil Overlord List. You can be Disney attorneys do.
This is the problem with a party that has run off everyone who is competent and good at doing things.
This is the saving grace of a party that has run all those people off.
It's like the guy at the start of every Columbo episode who confronts someone who's been taking advantage of him late at night with no one else around and says "I'm going to expose and ruin you... tomorrow morning."
Speaking of obscure local government things, I have an interview for that supervisory job this afternoon!
That's like "tying the hero to await his dead and the leaving, assuming he dies."
I'm sure everyone here knows this but I feel obligated to point out that the next time Disney is the hero of a story will be the first time. This is more like the scene from Game of Thrones where Daenerys is burning down the Lannister's castle or the scene where one of the Freys gets baked into a pie and fed to their patriarch.
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Kind of an amazingly dated item. Perfectly salient and clever, then utterly irrelevant and indecipherable just a few years later.
Yeah. Last century had its quirks.
The sunshine laws in Florida most recently came to my attention when they were weaponized to put opponents of The Villages' real estate developer in jail.
16: My great grandfather's will said "issue". It us to exclude adopted children, but I think that's been changed with the adoption of our new probate code.
If Tom Hagen teaches us anything, it's that adopted children can be more loyal to the family that your own.
47: I think the Supreme Court had something to say about that. (Also illegitimate children.)
I think Trump paid for abortions to avoid that.
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Dumb question, is he King of England? Does that title still exist after the acts of union"
No, and no. He is king of England in the sense that Joe Biden is president of Ohio.
Rather embarrassing for Canada that every other country sharing the monarch puts their own name first in his local style, but in Canada it's "by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Canada and his other Realms and Territories King...".
I guess technically Canada shares that status with Northern Ireland.
Why do some of them say "king of" and others just say "of" in a way whose grammar I can't follow?
11 et seq. Charles is not King of England or King of Scotland. Both those offices were abolished in 1707 and replaced by the Queen (at the time) of Great Britain, the name chosen for the union of Scotland and England, including Wales. On 1st January 1801,Ireland was strong-armed into the union, and George III, who had been King of Great Britain and also King of Ireland, became King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, presumably because they couldn't think of a catchier name. In December 1921 a treaty was signed ending the Irish War of Independence and making Ireland a Commonwealth Dominion like Canada or Australia. The Treaty allowed for any county to opt out of the Free State by majority vote, and in 1922,with the help of some gerrymandering, the counties Fermanagh, Tyrone, Derry, Antrim, Down and Armagh took advantage of this provision and demanded readmission to the Union. Thus George V became King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So it goes. There is at present no King of England or of Scotland or of any part of Ireland, which abandoned any residual links with the monarchy in 1937, with the adoption of a new constitution, apart from the aforementioned six counties.
TMI. I can do Royal Dukes as well if you're gluttons for punishment. Or the England/Wales situation, if you really want it.
58: Could you have a go at Schleswig-Holstein? Asking for a Chancellor-friend. Or possibly for a Prime Minister.
Can DeSantis argue that since there is no "King of England" the whole thing is void?
What if there's a ballot initiative to declare Mickey Mouse, the Emperor of Florida? What's the polling on that?
I suspect that so long as the description clearly describes a person, even if it does so in a technically incorrect way, there's no concern here? Not that this wouldn't stop DeSantis from trying, see 3.1.
Confusing though that he's Charles III, despite being the first King Charles of the United Kingdom...
I can add to 58 that they ceased to be King of France sometime not too long after the French revolution when the republican government because very insistent that there was no King of France anywhere, even one who hadn't actually ruled France in centuries.
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I started the prologue to the new season of You Must Remember This, ("Erotic 90s"). I just got to a part where KW says "For Erotic 80s, we did one episode per year, but that won't work for Erotic 90s. Here, it will take twelve years just to get to 1993."
This is converging with Sarah Marshall in several levels - the fractal like pace which SM can descend to, obsession with revisiting the maligned women of the 90s - and I'm definitely, definitely here for it.
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when the republican government because very insistent that there was no King of France anywhere, even one who hadn't actually ruled France in centuries.
Just no sense of romance at all with these people.
For Erotic 80s
Why, if her bangs weren't sticking at least 6 inches above her hairline, you wouldn't even give her a second glance. But I don't remember why.
65: it was 12 episodes not 12 years, right? I'm not that invested.
Interview went well! They're interviewing a couple other candidates and should have a decision in about a week. I think I have a very good shot at the job.
63: The republican government was basically dead by 1801 when they made the change. It seems to have been a combination of (a) a small way to please Napoleon's government in the run-up to the half-hearted peace of Amiens and (b) they were changing the style anyway to add Ireland and it was easy to take out the assertion of rule over France which had been pretty archaic for a long time.
Britain was at war with the republican government of France for essentially its entire existence so it was not particularly their will that changed anything.
To be fair to Britain, lots of other people were too.
they ceased to be King of France
That's King of the French to you!
Now I want onion soup, but it's way too late to go to the store and make some.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHNj3xJS89o&t=20s
"Mind if I smoke?"
I think 71 is off. IIRC it was not a gesture of conciliation to a government that Britain was at war with and regarded as illegitimate. It was to clear up the oddity that Britain was trying to put Louis XVIII, the heir to the former king of France Louis XVI, on the throne, where in Britain's view he belonged, and it looked a bit odd to be simultaneously doing that and claiming that the true king of France was George III.
72. This is true, but they realised it was a bit daft to claim that George III was King of France while they were actively spending vast amounts of blood and treasure trying to put Louis XVIII on the French throne. So they quietly dropped it.
Is the British monarch still the head of the Anglican Church?
81: The British monarch is the supreme governor of the Church of England. The Archbishop of Canterbury is Primate of England and spiritual head of the Anglican Communion.
Why do things the easy way?
In Scotland, the British monarch is Presbyterian. And in Moline, Illinois, attends Cornerstone Religionairium and Bait Shop.
78: Ah, I mixed up the timeline. I thought 1801 meant it was in the run-up to the Treaty of Amiens, the tiny portion of the 1793-1815 period when Britain was not actively at war with France. But now I see the Acts of Union were passed and got royal assent in mid-1800 to take effect January 1801, while the preliminary peace negotiations didn't start until mid-1801 (and couldn't start until Pitt left which was in February of that year). So whoever I saw on Quora drawing a connection was talking out of their ass, as I should have expected by default.
89: " everyone's equal round the pressure stove"
Heh.
Because I have a problem, I just bought another stove for backpacking. But it was cheap, because it's just an alcohol burner.
We're off camping next weekend- first trip of the year!
Be careful. 1 out of 555 babies born in Texas has congenital syphilis.
It was in the Washington Post. You need to avoid babies, anyone pregnant, and the obviously crumbling health system in general.
New Mexico is worse, but the article didn't focus there.
But it was cheap, because it's just an alcohol burner.
Sounds like my old man.
This is almost as funny as Four Seasons Landscaping
This is almost as funny as Four Seasons Landscaping
93; yep. Went last year and it got down to minus six but I'm almost certain that won't happen again...
"1 out of 555 babies born in Texas has congenital syphilis"
You can presumably get car stickers for the others that say "I MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BORN WITH SYPHILIS BUT I GOT IT AS SOON AS I COULD"
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NMM to Ryuichi Sakamoto. Such an incredible career.
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My guidance counselor didn't even mention it as an option.
105: Oh, wow, that's a real one. If I had more energy I would go out and see if any clubs here in Osaka are marking the occasion.
re: 105
As you say, what a an amazing career, and an absurdly dapper guy to boot.
108.last Indeed. I met him briefly in 2015, there was an big Tsai Ming-liang retro at the Museum of the Moving Image and he went to a lot of the films, he'd just be hanging out in the lobby before and between screenings, looking extraordinarily cool.
re: 109
That's great. I didn't listen regularly to a huge amount of his non-film-score music but always admired him.
Great RS anecdote https://twitter.com/theoscargoff/status/1642569804396605441?s=46&t=nbIfRG4OrIZbaPkDOwkgxQ