Re: Guest Post: Tom Brady is an asshole and crypto is a fraud

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Crypto bros are big believers in deflation.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:12 AM
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Heh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:15 AM
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Taylor Swift refused a bucket of money to endorse FTX, but she was willing to take a bucket of money to let FTX sponsor her tour. But FTX didn't last that long.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:24 AM
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Smart lady.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:25 AM
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Why do they call it a sports "dynasty"? Seemingly it was just Brady and the coach. No offspring, no protegés, no legitimized bastards, nothing.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:27 AM
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Sports writers are hacks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:30 AM
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Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:30 AM
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Why do they call it a sports "dynasty"? Seemingly it was just Brady and the coach. No offspring, no protegés, no legitimized bastards, nothing.

The last sentence fragment is correct, as far as I know, but the second sentence is completely wrong. There are many players on an American football team.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:35 AM
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There's not enough money in wages, so people are becoming easy marks for fraud.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:37 AM
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Oh. I thought it was solo, like baseball.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:37 AM
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There's at least nine people on a baseball team.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:41 AM
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I know that because I remember the joke "What has 18 legs and catches flies?" and because I know the modal number of legs on a baseball player.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:49 AM
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But if there're nine players how can they each stand at a corner of the pentagram?


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:55 AM
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That's basketball.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:01 AM
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14 He's thinking of the New York Satans baseball team. With the DH it's 10, and they double up.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:09 AM
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Designated Hitler?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:10 AM
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Hag. To keep time, or the summoning always goes to shit.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:21 AM
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There was no keeping time in baseball until this season. They're trying to attract Millennials by being less dull.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:27 AM
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3/4: And it wasn't unavailability or something. She directly asked them: "Can you tell me that these are not unregistered securities?"


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:30 AM
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Like Twenty20. So the game can blow up and get swallowed by India Puerto Rico.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:34 AM
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19: Because they were unregistered securities.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:41 AM
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Should I not have spent my all of my son's college fund on digital apes?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:54 AM
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I wonder why they were honest with her? To avoid having a song written about they are liars? Or just realizing that anyone asking that question is probably going to check?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:54 AM
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She could read them like a magazine.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 7:57 AM
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They were probably used to celebrities who worried only about the amount they were being paid and not what they were being paid to say.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:06 AM
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Trump is the embodiment of the "bullshit asymmetry principle." His entire business and political career is based on it. If I were to credit the dumbshit with anything, it would be his intuitive understanding of this and ability to gain from it.


Posted by: No Longer Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:09 AM
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It doesn't say they told her they were unregistered securities. I'd bet it was some kind of bloviation, which she took as a "yes". You generally don't want to baldly lie to someone powerful, or someone you're going to interact with a lot with over time. (This is why legislators are honest with each other to a degree that would surprise the public.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:13 AM
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I think this is Taylor's pr team. The truth is she was perfectly happy to partner with FTX, just like every other celebrity.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:41 AM
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I was just able to click through to the article! Wow, between this story and the Michael Oher lawsuit, Michael Lewis's reputation should be in the toilet.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:45 AM
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My understanding is 28 is right. At any rate Taylor's parents are in finance (her dad founded a Merril Lynch Wealth Management Group) so I'm sure her dad was making the call on this anyway (see also the AMC Theater negotiations).


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:54 AM
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29: He's still got the puppet thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:56 AM
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31: NMM Shari Lewis. This is 25 years late, but I thought Moby needed to know.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:59 AM
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I assumed her heirs inherited the act.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:00 AM
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And that there is only one Lewis family.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:04 AM
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Probably raking it in with Lambchop NFTs.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:06 AM
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30: I assume you mean her father gave her the advice on this, rather than that she doesn't make decisions.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:30 AM
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Yeah. Let's not minimize women just because their dad had a nice job.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:36 AM
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36: She makes loads of decisions, but I think these specific kind business of decisions she's not heavily involved with, again see the AMC negotiations which were between her dad and the CEO of AMC.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:47 AM
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Like I'm sure she was involved in the decision to have a concert movie in the theaters, but all the reporting about the actual negotiations with studios, or the decision to go around the studios to AMC, or the terms of the deal with AMC seem to be done by her dad. She's doing 9+ hours of shows every week and recording at least one album, you gotta delegate.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 9:55 AM
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She's doing 9+ hours of shows every week and recording at least one album, you gotta delegate.

Yes, for example, she put me in charge of finding her a new boyfriend.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:01 AM
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You found the football player for her?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:02 AM
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I can't speak to its accuracy or its truth, but did no one see when this was originally reported?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:02 AM
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42 to 40.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:03 AM
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I mean I could give two shits about TS but the original reporting ascribed that question and decision to her


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:04 AM
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I'm pretty sure Taylor Swift was a key part of keeping the economy out of recession.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:07 AM
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Everyone knows 🌳 finds the boyfriends /s


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:08 AM
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Tree?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:09 AM
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44: but as has been pointed out that was pr spin put out after FTX collapsed.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:09 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_Paine


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:10 AM
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Yes, someone else reported thereafter that she did sign the partnership and it fell through for reasons on the FTX side.

I still look askance, Unfoggetarian, at your framing "her dad is involved as a close advisor / she delegates a number of things to him" as "she doesn't make decisions in this area."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:12 AM
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"Lance Paine" sounds like a euphemism for a social disease.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:13 AM
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The joke is that the gaylors all think Tree arranges all her fake PR relationships with boys which are actually just contracts and not relationships and Tree won't let her come out of the closet.

Also it's funny her given name is actually Tree.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:14 AM
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Yeah. That didn't occur to me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:16 AM
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Anyway, if you write a song like "Lavender Haze", people do tend to speculate.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:17 AM
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I stand by my original claim, the story never really made sense, that's not the part of her business she would be handling.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:17 AM
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TS doesn't write her own music is sexist and wrong. TS doesn't do her own investigation into whether FTX is a scam is just true.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:21 AM
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I don't want to wake up with a Gyllenhaal's severed head in my bed, so I say the story makes exact sense.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:22 AM
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Wise man. I do think she handles at least some of the revenge part of her business. I don't think her financial advisors were behind the decision to do the re-records.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:24 AM
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OMG, my unintentionally delightful student writes:

"Hey so I don't get out of class until 2:15 and I have open gym today and for as tomorrow I have a test in the morning and then practice. Is there a way I can come on Monday that's Loki my free day?"

Low key. He means low key.

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Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:27 AM
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That's amazing.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:28 AM
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It's probably his phone's fault.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:30 AM
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I'm into gratuitous Brady-bashing as much as the next person, but even I have finally been compelled to admit that he was the greatest NFL quarterback of all time. And if somebody offered me $50 million to endorse a seemingly legal product that was beyond my expertise to evaluate, I'd have trouble turning it down.

And Deflategate was likely bullshit.

Plus, Brady boycotted the customary post-Super Bowl visit to the White House in 2017 when Trump was president, but did go see Biden in order to needle Trump about his defeat.

The quarterback said many people did not believe the Buccaneers could win the championship last year.
"I think about 40 percent of the people still don't think we won," Mr. Brady said.
"I understand that," Mr. Biden said.

I'm still onboard with hating Belichick, though.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:31 AM
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61: Probably, but let's not harsh my mellow.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:34 AM
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I think if someone offered me $50 million to endorse something I didn't understand and I already had many millions, I'd hire a lawyer to see if taking the $50 million could expose me to risk.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:39 AM
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I genuinely didn't think FTX was fraudulent. That is, I understood that *crypto* was a scam, but I thought FTX was actually making legitimate money by taking a cut of other people scamming each other with crypto. Not that I looked too much into it, but since SBF and I are facebook friends at some point I did read about how he got his money and thought it was legit.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:44 AM
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Instead, Lewis said he knew next to nothing about cryptocurrency. But he seemed quite confident that it was great. He went on to opine that, con­trary to popular opinion, crypto was not well suited for crime.

Holy shit, Michael Lewis! Did you know that gullible isn't in the dictionary?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:52 AM
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My brother also told me that the bottom of a pool smells like roses.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:53 AM
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67: Like Moses's toeses?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:56 AM
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No, those are erroneous.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 10:57 AM
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What did the bottom of the pool smell like?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 11:55 AM
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John Milton, plausibly on topic:

Let none admire
That riches grow in Hell; that soyle may best
Deserve the pretious bane.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 12:20 PM
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He must have been hooked on phonics to spell that way.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 12:42 PM
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40 makes no sense. This scam is a scam, but this scheme scamming the scammers is totally legit!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:05 PM
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73 to 65


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:06 PM
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73: I'm hurt by your skepticism, Barry. Why wouldn't Taylor choose me to choose her next boyfriend?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:10 PM
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It could happen, peep. I believe in you.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:12 PM
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76: Thanks, Barry! We librarians have to stick together.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:13 PM
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but this scheme scamming the scammers is totally legit!

I assume the idea was that FTX wasn't a "scheme", but rather that it was providing relatively/fairly straightforward financial services to a scammy sector.

I mean, that's still not a morally upright or long term stable investment, but "long term", as we all know, is an uncertain concept in this space. Like, if crypto/NFTs had, despite all of us thinking they were bogus*, survived for a decade before imploding, that's a decent run for FTX.

*BitCoin lasted years past the point where everyone I knew/follow viewed it as a Ponzi scheme. You could've waited a year after its scumminess was apparent to get in, held on for a year, made a 50% or 100% return, and you'd still have gotten out before it peaked.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:13 PM
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Right, 78.1 is what I meant.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: “Pause endlessly, then go in” (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:14 PM
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73: If you had somehow been in a position to levy a 2% fee on every one of the investments in Charles Ponzi, what risk would you have incurred?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:21 PM
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I haven't read the whole article yet, but I wanted to give my first impression: Zeke Faux is a great pseud.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 1:27 PM
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78: "but this scheme scamming the scammers is totally legit!"

It requires an assumption that while the proponents of crypto are knaves and scammers, the proponents of this adjacent "financial services for crypto" are solid, upright citizens. I mean, you read that, and the absurdity just jumps out at you.

It's knaves and fools all the way down. It was when it started, and it never changed.


Posted by: Chetan Murthy | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:02 PM
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ETA: and FTX issued its own token, right? [maybe even several? I forget] so even if we stipulate that the people running the "financial services for crypto" were honest, upright citizens, they were the same people putting out this (a priori scammy) token!


Posted by: Chetan Murthy | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:04 PM
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83 is true, and just shows that I did a bad job understanding what FTX did. The even bigger mistake was not realizing Alameda Research existed!


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:11 PM
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84: Don't feel bad. Bill Clinton and Michael Lewis couldn't figure it out either.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:14 PM
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Oh! I just had another idea for a movie! What if Sam Bankman-Fried and Elizabeth Holmes met and fell in love in prison?

Possible plot hole -- prisons aren't typically co-ed, are they?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:20 PM
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They're paired as penpals as a snafu where it was supposed to be volunteer-to-inmate but they were both mis-listed as volunteers and paired with the other on the recipient list. So they're both being a little circumspect because the volunteer list comes with perks that they don't want to give up.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 2:58 PM
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Elizabeth Holmes was the answer to one of the questions at pub trivia last night. Apparently more than one team went with Elizabeth Warren. Young people get comfused.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 4:22 PM
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Old people do as well. We failed to identify the singer of Because the Night.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 4:27 PM
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Aaron Judge of the Satans hit a grand slam today -- might get them out of last place.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 4:34 PM
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89: I know someone sang it before Natalie Merchant, but they didn't do it as well.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 4:36 PM
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I want to believe that 91 is a joke. Because if it's not, mobes is finally wrong about something.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 5:31 PM
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I'm wrong all the fucking time.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 5:43 PM
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Laydeez.


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no official decision was taken at Cabinet level to address the resentment of fishery scientists
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Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:00 PM
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I drive a product of the Chrysler corporation. And not like a good one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:04 PM
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Chrysler is German now. Or possibly Dutch. In any case, European and therefore sophisticated.


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:07 PM
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My mom's first car was a Corvair, so I think I did better.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:16 PM
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I am right now ignoring patching the siding on the back of the house where the neighbor's groundhog tore it off.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:17 PM
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If you wait long enough in silence, the groundhog will eventually feel so uncomfortable that it will take care of the repairs itself.


Posted by: von wafer | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:23 PM
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I'm opposed to the death penalty but in this case if they gave him the chair the headline could be, "Scam Bank Man Fried"


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:27 PM
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I'm opposed to not killing someone if you can make that good of a pun about it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 6:41 PM
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86-87 are gold, thank you both

Keith Haring Amiga drawings from 1987:
https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/keith-haring-pixel-pioneer/keith-haring-1958-1990-4/190509


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 09-14-23 8:02 PM
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I will die on the hill that the bitcoin protocol itself is a cool and interesting piece of technology.


Posted by: torque | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 9:50 AM
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It's not a real hill. It's a picture of a hill that someone turned into an NTF.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 10:00 AM
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Non-transmissible fungus.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 10:19 AM
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OT: I think I just saw two V-22 Ospreys.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 12:20 PM
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You don't see them, you HEAR them


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 12:22 PM
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It was so loud that I looked out the window.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 12:40 PM
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When The Donald was here, the AF1 entourage parked up at Stansted as usual and they flew in every day to lift him and his party off on whatever trip was planned. As a result of the geography those fuckers flew in from the north-east and HELD CIRCLING IN A RACETRACK PATTERN over my fucking flat in Crouch End waiting for whoever to clear them into whatever landing zone they used near the embassy. Horribly loud, in a terrible grinding way, and unlike a pass by a fast jet or an airliner on approach, it just keeps on roaring and grinding and exuding Trumpness.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 1:13 PM
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I'm not 100% sure of what I saw. Just that it had two rotors and that I thought it was a helicopter and then I thought it was a plane and then I couldn't decide.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 1:21 PM
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Someone on Reddit agrees with me though.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 1:37 PM
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OT: Apparently, at musicals in Colorado they have night vision cameras so you can see who is getting felt up in the mezzanine.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 5:09 PM
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I just learned that the "How often do you think about the Roman Empire?" thing isn't a euphemism. But that "vaping" means "over the clothes fondling in a theater."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 7:10 PM
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Boebert's outfit reminds me of how some of the models are dressed in some of the more annoying web ads.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-15-23 8:00 PM
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They're loud and they lack the comforting WHOP WHOP WHOP of a Chinook, but they are a surprisingly comfortable ride once you put your earplugs in. Would recommend.


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 09-16-23 4:16 AM
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116 to 115, obviously


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 09-16-23 4:17 AM
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Also for reference I remember a single park one day pass was about $30 and the six day multi park pass was an unfathomably expensive $200.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-16-23 11:11 PM
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118 also to 115.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-17-23 4:17 AM
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I don't know how that ended up in the wrong thread. I had the other open.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 09-17-23 4:46 AM
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I asked heebie to move it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-17-23 4:55 AM
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101: applause!


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 09-17-23 3:44 PM
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