Re: All the craziness

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All the firehose of political scandals, and very little of it will leak through to the general public, of whatever politics.

Doesn't mean I'm above it all, I was totally caught up last night.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 7:54 AM
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It's like you're deciding on dinner, and three people vote for trying to drink from a firehose, and two say Kill and Eat You. Nobody gets pizza.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 7:56 AM
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From the thread this is continuing:

Nuzzi, I don't recall many specifics of her writing just a vague sense of her being a minor league sloppy, gossipy reporter with a bit of a young Maureen Dowd vibe.

I'd say more of a Maggie Haberman vibe. A good example of her gullibility (or complicity) is this piece gullibly taking on Mike Cernovich saying he was moderating.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:01 AM
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To OP.2: Where Racism Goes to Become Rhetoric.

Apparently Trump has been telling people at his events about the threat of criminals from the Congo and beyond for months. The Washington Post put it into a fact-check roundup in March ("no such decline in Congo's prison population is shown in the data"); critic at large A.O. Scott of the New York Times, in a "Critic's Notebook" item reviewing Trump's speech after his criminal conviction, wrote about it knowingly, as if it were old news: "A citizen looking for campaign issues might find some boilerplate in a peroration that conjured images of Venezuela and Congo emptying their prisons and asylums onto America's streets."

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:04 AM
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To OP.2: Where Racism Goes to Become Rhetoric.

Apparently Trump has been telling people at his events about the threat of criminals from the Congo and beyond for months. The Washington Post put it into a fact-check roundup in March ("no such decline in Congo's prison population is shown in the data"); critic at large A.O. Scott of the New York Times, in a "Critic's Notebook" item reviewing Trump's speech after his criminal conviction, wrote about it knowingly, as if it were old news: "A citizen looking for campaign issues might find some boilerplate in a peroration that conjured images of Venezuela and Congo emptying their prisons and asylums onto America's streets."

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:04 AM
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Mr Trump has things backwards.


Posted by: Opinionated DR Congo | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:13 AM
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Mistah Kurz--he dead.


Posted by: Opinionated Józef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:21 AM
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I don't see any method at all, sir.


Posted by: Opinionated Capt. Willard | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:22 AM
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To be fair Trump would probably approve of the vaccination bit:

they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure...


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:12 AM
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On Nuzzi, my view is that this was a mostly imaginary relationship with a mostly imaginary candidate.

People are free to make judgments about her character, I suppose, and people close to her can and should be disappointed in her. But acting like things brings her ridiculously thin claim to objectivity in political reporting into serious question cheapens everything.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:14 AM
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Reopening Three Mile Island to run AI?

I think having the immigrants eating cats and dogs in Homer Simpson's home town was a cry for help from the writers, but this is a step beyond.

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Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:19 AM
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critic at large A.O. Scott of the New York Times, in a "Critic's Notebook" item reviewing Trump's speech after his criminal conviction

Wait, what? Isn't A. O. Scott a film critic?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:37 AM
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Reopening Three Mile Island to run AI?

Three Mile Island Unit 1 was operational from 1985 to 2019. (The one that melted down was Unit 2 which never reopened.) But yes, Microsoft is probably going to regret this deal as by 2028 AI will not have nearly the massive systemwide applications that would justify this expenditure for them.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:40 AM
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I feel a bit like gswift when he became a cop and started thinking more like a cop, in that I've been thinking "why don't they spin up nuclear reactors for these tech data centers?" and here we are!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:47 AM
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Are you in the nuclear industry now?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:54 AM
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Trump stock down another 4 percent at this writing, hovering around $14 a share. And today is the day that Trump and his cronies can start selling shares.

Trump's stake is still worth something like $1.7 billion, but it would be impossible for him to liquidate at anything resembling that value. And I don't know who would loan him money with that stock as collateral.

If I were one of his share-holding cronies, though, I'd be getting out at the earliest opportunity.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 9:56 AM
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Are you in the nuclear industry now?

No, but there's a thought!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:05 AM
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And I don't know who would loan him money with that stock as collateral.

Plenty of foreign governments if he looks like he might win.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:06 AM
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12 he retired from that role sometime last year


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:26 AM
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Someone should explain to the NYT that "political coverage as theater criticism" was supposed to be derogatory.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:39 AM
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Not that they'll listen.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:40 AM
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Reopening Three Mile Island to run AI?

For her job, my sister was trying to source substations, switch gear and transformers to install charging stations for heavy duty electric vehicles. The demand from AI and crypto is so high that should you need to build a substation, you'd have a two year wait for the equipment.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 10:50 AM
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I don't appreciate Trump disrespecting Elvis like that.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 12:07 PM
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I vaguely remember an ancient SNL skit -- I think it was supposed to be the Kennedy teens during Spring Break at the beach, and they had a contest - how long could they hit on a girl without telling her that that they are a Kennedy. The point being that as soon as the girl found that he was a Kennedy, she would swoon and fall into his arms.

Does that still work in 2024 for 70-year-old RFK Jr?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 1:09 PM
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More from peep's archive of vaguely remembered tidbits- an article by a woman reporter that was pals with Milo Yiannopoulos -- how she thought he was just a harmless clown and was such a fun guy, and then expressing vague regrets when she realized how genuinely evil he was - was that Olivia Nuzzi? It seems not, although Twitter reveals that 2014 Nuzzi was president of the Ann Coulter fan club.


Olivia Nuzzi
@Olivianuzzi
leave
@AnnCoulter
alone! except don't because then she won't sell books/will fade into obscurity and i will be sad because i love her
3:26 PM · Jun 26, 2014


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 1:20 PM
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People are free to make judgments about her character, I suppose, and people close to her can and should be disappointed in her.

Can't speak for anyone else but I just thought it was hilarious to be associated (allegedly) with someone so ridiculous. It doesn't change my view of her journalism. As I said in the previous thread, I've filed that away as "don't read"* for years.

*Unless it's your job, or you want to engage in a conversation with someone who's read it, etc.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 2:41 PM
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Was she fired?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 3:42 PM
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She was put on leave. No word since, it's been less than 24 hours.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 3:52 PM
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an article by a woman reporter that was pals with Milo Yiannopoulos

That might have been Laurie Penny: https://medium.com/welcome-to-the-scream-room/im-with-the-banned-8d1b6e0b2932

Milo Yiannopoulos is a charming devil and one of the worst people I know. I have seen the death of political discourse reflected in his designer sunglasses. It chills me. We met four years ago, before he was the self-styled "most fabulous supervillain on the internet," when he was just another floppy-haired right-wing pundit and we were guests on opposing sides of a panel show whose topic I don't remember and can't be bothered to look up. Afterwards we got hammered in the green room and ran around the BBC talking about boys. It was fun.

Since that day, there is absolutely nothing I have been able to say to Milo to persuade him that we are not friends. The more famous he gets off the back of extravagantly abusing women and minorities, the more I tell him I hate him and everything he stands for, the more he laughs and asks when we're drinking. I'm a radical queer feminist leftist writer burdened with actual principles. He thinks that's funny and invites me to his parties.

Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 4:24 PM
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NMM to Alberto Fujimori.
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Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 4:43 PM
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29: thanks! That's it.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 5:58 PM
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How much does Teamsters misogyny matter?


Posted by: mc | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 7:14 PM
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32: are you asking if that was a factor in the decision not to endorse Kamala? It doesn't seem that way to me. If we can remember that far back, the head of the Teamsters spoke at the Republican Convention back when the apparent nominee of the Democratic party was some guy named Joe.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 7:58 PM
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33: That specifically, but also the longer pattern of behavior described in the other thread.
In my mind is the very smart idea from someone here (Upetgi? Can't remember) that the core of Trumpism isn't racism but machismo.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:13 PM
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Heh.


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 09-20-24 8:18 PM
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