Re: Admissions

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Going through it now, ED is actually pretty unatttactive and seems to be going out of favor. A lot of places do nonbinding early which I think is helpful for applicants to stage things in a less stressful way- get one in the bag to narrow your regular applications.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 6:25 AM
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If your application lasts more than four months, consult your physician.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 6:25 AM
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MA state schools have no such preview. We submitted an early app to the state flagship but it's the same as any other competitive app, nothing is guaranteed.
There's a decent chance our first two kids will end up at each of our schools. Only one considers legacy though and that's ending next year.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 6:30 AM
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Don't you have one already at college?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 6:46 AM
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Yes this is the next one applying and his top choice is where I went. Oldest is a sophomore at school where mom went.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 7:15 AM
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This is also a ridiculous admissions-related story that's been going around. Dumbass went and got like six graduate degrees which are really just marketing for his admissions consulting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/the-guru-who-says-he-can-get-your-11-year-old-into-harvard/ar-AA1skRFw


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:01 AM
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Where did you get the audiobook?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:02 AM
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I could only find it on Apple Books. But it's read by a person, not a bot.


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:03 AM
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5: Extraordinary:

He attended Harvard and won a Rhodes scholarship, which he used to earn a Ph.D. in public policy from the University of Oxford. He followed that with two masters from Stanford, one in business and the other in education technology. He also earned a masters in education entrepreneurship from the University of Pennsylvania, a masters in finance from Princeton, a law degree from Yale and a masters in global affairs from Tsinghua University in China.

So he got two real degrees (PhD and law), and bought five others ("professional" masters' degrees that are mostly university profit centers; probably at most one year each).


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:14 AM
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9 to 6.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:14 AM
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A UK humanities PhD is only like 2-3 years though, right?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:16 AM
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I'd assume it's still a more legitimate, traditional degree despite being shorter. Though I suppose money could smooth the way there too: after all Naomi Wolf got a PhD from Oxford.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:18 AM
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6: I saw that. I think it's probably not a coincidence that venture capital has found college admissions and that there are now stories about incoming students who can't read books.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:19 AM
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He attended Harvard and won a Rhodes scholarship, which he used to earn a Ph.D. in public policy from the University of Oxford.

Plainly false. Oxford does not award PhDs.

A UK humanities PhD is only like 2-3 years though, right?

Normally four.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:23 AM
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Science doctorates are three to four years - I think humanities ones tend to run a little longer, but I could be wrong.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 8:25 AM
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"professional" masters' degrees that are mostly university profit centers; probably at most one year each

Hey now. My degree still says "Master" on it and that was good enough for the gatekeepers in HR.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 9:23 AM
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One of my friends recently started working for the company in 9!


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 9:25 AM
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The Unaccountability Machine: very good book and well written, I agree. Makes one of the best cases I've seen that a lot of our biggest problems are organizational rather than "Capitalism." Though the accountabiity sink idea seemed like it could explain everything and thus nothing.

A capable journalist would have made the Stafford Beers was a weirdo parts even more fun. But would have lacked the inclination and almost religious zeal to use his system to explain the problems of the modern organizational world.


Posted by: simulated annealing | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 9:26 AM
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There's an appeal to running a business where a large percentage of your clients were likely to be successful without your help, but where it's also difficult to say that your help didn't make a difference.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 10:49 AM
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Incidentally, I too have a professional terminal master's. It was a profit center for the university; it worked out well for me but I think mostly because it was a top-tier university. Any further down and it would have been worth very little.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 11:03 AM
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(I also think there were other people in my same program and year that were not as helped by the program.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 11:04 AM
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If the program is a profit center for the university, a terminal masters is much better than an interminable masters.


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 11:19 AM
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The masters will continue until revenue improves.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 11:27 AM
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14.1. Americans and other overseas students may call their Oxford DPhils PhDs to avoid endless pointless arguments with HR departments vel sim, and who can blame them.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-18-24 12:46 PM
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Vaguely related: after 7 years, I finally got my B.Ed. degree! Of course, if it's waited till they changed the laws a few years ago, I could have skipped it and just gotten the MEd directly, since they loosened the rules for career-changing. Sigh.


Posted by: X. Trapnel | Link to this comment | 10-19-24 9:29 AM
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Congrats Trapnel!!


Posted by: Mossy Character | Link to this comment | 10-19-24 9:33 AM
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Congratulations. Maybe try Data Science next?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-24 10:29 AM
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Yes Trapnel!


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10-19-24 5:25 PM
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Yay, Trapnel!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 10-21-24 7:37 AM
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Congratulations Trapnel!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-21-24 8:00 AM
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