Indian students sometimes go to the bar. I rarely see anyone who looks East Asian and under thirty at the bar.

The fall is partly also the Chinese economy suffering. I know someone who runs a company helping Chinese students settling in to the UK and she's seeing a lot less business this year, which she blames on the slowing economy. It's counterbalanced a bit by Chinese students changing their plans and going to the UK (or Australia) rather than the US.

The rise in Indian students is impressive - 23% in the last year. The article says that's growing prosperity and demographics, both of which make sense.

In 2022 we kept the same number of international students, but basically completely swapped in Indian students for all the lost Chinese students. Hurt math, because we were getting majors who were Chinese students whose English wasn't good enough for Business or Econ, but of course the Indian students have better English.

I've been pretty impressed with the Indian students on the whole, with the Chinese students there was a bit of a weird effect where a lot of them were rich kids who weren't good enough to get into good Chinese universities (a very very different demo from the Chinese *grad students* who kinda hated the undergrads) but whose parents could buy them into US universities.

Part of it is that China is just a lot more innovative these days (beating us on drone technology, solar, electric vehicles, cheap AI...) and no longer needs to rely on America as much for educational services.

They're certainly producing much more imaginative trolls.

Yeah, the gap between the top Chinese universities and the west is still there, but it's rapidly shrinking. They're hiring, we're not, so they get good people.

People are people so why should it be,
You and I do math intercontinentally.

India has a larger population than China

And the diabetes to prove it.

We have some students ready to do their residency in the US, some of them delayed getting visas ( one had an appointment cancelled by the embassy) and now the website is down. I was urging them not to rely on it coming back up anytime soon but call, email, and go there in person

Through some odd circumstances and coincidences, my university now draws a number of Nepali students. Are they ready for it? Sort of. Are we? No. Is it kind of working out? Seems to!

International students are a hot-button topic in Canadian politics right now. Their numbers have exploded in the past decade, largely as a way for underfunded universities to make up budget shortfalls; domestic tuition is regulated and capped, international tuition is not, and so international students pay around 6 times as much as domestic students. So there are now a lot of international students, and they are being blamed (mostly unfairly and in a pretty racist way) for the housing crisis in some cities. This led the federal government to cap the number of study visas. It has not led provincial governments to increase funding to universities, and so most institutions are now facing an enormous budget crisis with no sign that any government is going to do anything about it.

3.2: Also, I imagine the PRC demographic collapse is manifesting even more quickly among that demographic than it is in the country as a whole.