Re: Brownie

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One word, Ogged: overqualified.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 9:23 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure you couldn't do worse. I was thinking that I could do a better job, because I would know to look for good subordinates and know to ask for help when I needed it.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 9:27 AM
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I think having seen X-Files: The Movie, positing a massive conspiracy involving FEMA, would make one more qualified to run FEMA than its current director.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 9:47 AM
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Hell, just having attended a properly accredited law school would make you more qualified than the current guy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:14 AM
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And I'd be able to leave work at 5 to spend time with my kids! Where do I send my resume?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:18 AM
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Apostropher--I was going to chime in on that, but I think it may not be operative. This Josh Marshall post, which originally said that his law school wasn't accredited, no longer does.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:19 AM
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I saw the unaccredited claim originally from Paul Campos in TNR.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:21 AM
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Surely cleaning up comments has served as good training to clean up New Orleans.

(It worked for horses.)


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:21 AM
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From the TNR article:

"Brown's biography on fema's website reports that he's a graduate of the Oklahoma City University School of Law. This is not, to put it charitably, a well-known institution. For example, I've been a law professor for the past 15 years and have never heard of it. Of more relevance is the fact that, until 2003, the school was not even a member of the Association of American Law Schools (aals)--the organization that, along with the American Bar Association, accredits the nation's law schools. Most prospective law students won't even consider applying to a non-aals law school unless they have no other option, because many employers have a policy of not considering graduates of non-aals institutions. So it's fair to say that Brown embarked on his prospective legal career from the bottom of the profession's hierarchy."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:23 AM
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Well, California has CBA schools, but the point is taken.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:25 AM
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I think Marshall was referencing TNR--which I don't subscribe to, so don't read. Don't remember what the original post said exactly, so I don't know why Marshall edited it. Thanks for the quote, anyhoo.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:26 AM
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which I don't subscribe to, so don't read

Well, unless you're not reading on ethical grounds (in which case you are far more ethical than I am), there's always the lovely, lovely bugmenot plugin.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:30 AM
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"I think I've come to that point in my life where it's time for me to become head of FEMA."

I'm afraid that you haven't been sued enough. You'll have to work on that first.

"I think Marshall was referencing TNR--which I don't subscribe to, so don't read."

Hello, Bugmenot.


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:30 AM
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I don't know why Marshall edited it

Threat of legal action from the school, maybe?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:31 AM
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The idea (sometimes) is sort of, I waste enough damn time on the Intarweb, I don't need to get myself some passwords so I can waste even more time. But for some reason Bugmenot hadn't even occurred to me for this one.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:33 AM
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People really use bugmenot for pay sites? Isn't that, like, wrong? (Also, doesn't it make it more likely that the wonderful bugmenot will be shut down?)


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:33 AM
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The link in 9 isn't a pay link.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:36 AM
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I was asking generally.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:38 AM
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Where do I send my resume?

Hell, send someone else's.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:41 AM
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Fark. Someone else's.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:44 AM
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I think that bugmenot will give you a link to TNR for their non-subscriber content. You have to register with them even for the freebies. The Spectator is the same way. Bugmenot logins don't work for the stuff you have to subscribe to.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:45 AM
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Bugmenot logins don't work for the stuff you have to subscribe to

I don't think that's true, given that I just tried it and it let me in.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:47 AM
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I was trying to use the firefox bugmenot plugin to read a New York Sun article yesterday, rather than register for a 30 day free trial, but I've never tried for an actual pay site.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:49 AM
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Well, maybe nobody had supplied it with logins for the paid sites that I wanted to visit, e.g., the Spectator and WSJ.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:53 AM
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Josh Marshall probably removed the accreditation claim because OK City Law School is ABA certified. TNR was specific to say that the school was not accredited by the AALS, but Marshall originally wrote that it was not accredited.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 10:58 AM
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It's not BugMeNot that's at fault; it's the people who give up paid passwords to BugMeNot. This contributory liability crap has got to stop. Why are you people trying to kill the Internet? Why do you hate America?


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:03 AM
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Time Magazine reported this morning that Mike Brown lied about his professional qualifications and he may be vulnerable to being disbarred as a result.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:13 AM
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It's worse than that, right? He could be looking at time?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:15 AM
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I'll just note that the worse it gets for Mike Brown, the better it gets for George Bush.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:17 AM
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I'm not so sure about that, Ogged. Bush selected him for the position.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:18 AM
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Under 18 USC 1001 (what they got Martha Stewart for) you can get up to five years for lying to any agent of the Federal government in a matter within their jurisdiction. Submitting a false resume would qualify, certainly.

(This is a terrible, terrible, oppressive law which I strongly disapprove of. Nonetheless, it is on the books.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:19 AM
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Bush selected him for the position.

Poor George was duped. Allbaugh hired him. etc. It oughtta hurt him, don't think it will.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:21 AM
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I'm with Ogged. Prepare for the about-face in the conservative blogosphere. Brownie will go down, conservatives will congratulate Michelle Malkin for being right, and liberals will be attacked for not moving on from the blame game.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:21 AM
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OK City Law School is ABA certified.

Yeah but when was it certified?


Posted by: ogmb | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:23 AM
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1960. Sorry, I thought I linked to a Google search cache of that page. OKCU Law apparently didn't get AALS accredited until 2003. I don't know what the comparative standards are, but it's feasible that it was a fairly minor oversight that prevented them from getting the nod from AALS.

I think that's a dead-end, but it doesn't really promote Brown.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:39 AM
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If Brown lied, it can only help Bush. It's not his fault that he was so carefully misled, the poor man. The guy is Teflon.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:43 AM
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The guy is Teflon.

With a 39% approval rating, I think the Teflon has dissolved. I doubt this will get Bush off the hook. Even if Brown's legal qualifications were on the up and up, he still doesn't have any emergency management experience. He's manifestly unqualified for the position.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:48 AM
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I think the Teflon thing needs to be reformulated: people might not like Bush, but they like him better than any Democrat.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:52 AM
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I bet those numbers will come back up, though, apostropher. The base is already pointing towards local & state response, and I think that will be the myth that lives.

But maybe a better analogy is a Weeble; things that should knock him over just make him wobble a bit (and not fall down!)


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 11:58 AM
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Brown is being sent back to Washington. Some Coast guard guy is taking over.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:01 PM
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The base is already pointing towards local & state response, and I think that will be the myth that lives.

That will be the myth that lives with the base, who would blame the Democrats if GWB ate a baby on live TV. I think the rest of the country was quite taken aback and remains so. I'm perfectly willing to assign blame to the local and state authorities. there is plenty to go around. But the federal response was still embarrassing after they took control.

bush's numbers may rebound a little, but I'll bet not more than a few points over the remainder of his presidency, because gas isn't going back below $3/gallon.

Or maybe I just have my liberal hat on too tight.



Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:19 PM
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ogged, are you sure you're qualified? having a horse c*ck doesn't quite measure up with being a horse c*ck judge, or even being a horse c*ck judge supervisor, as far as that goes. think about it: would you rather be the tugger or the tuggee?


Posted by: diddy | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:29 PM
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You know, I don't mind that a Coastie is taking over. They've been the only force actually doing a damn good job since day 1. At least, I remember seeing them trying to help people from their roofs while the city was still flooding.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:29 PM
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td--I don't mind that this Vice-Admiral is taking over. I think it's interesting though that Brown has not yet lost his job as head of FEMA. He's just not supervising relief in the region. Brown will, of course, be forced to resign, but they're not firing him and replacing him just yet.


Posted by: bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:32 PM
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"People really use bugmenot for pay sites?"

Only where it works. Most places it doesn't. TNR it almost always does. Is it wrong? A good case can be made. On the other hand, it's not as if I'm soiling a copy and putting it back on the stands, nor as if they're losing money because I'd otherwise be paying them.


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:33 PM
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Or maybe I just have my liberal hat on too tight

I think mine got lost in the mail, where'd you get yours?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:33 PM
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bg,

I didn't take what you were saying to be a condemnation of the coasties. I think they've really been underappreciated in this whole thing, and wanted to point it out.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 12:39 PM
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Whatever Bush's numbers are, I'm more concerned that his numbers rub off on the Republican Congress and the 2008 Republican presidential candidates. Which will only happen if we stop personalizing this to the President and point out that it is a result of the Republican governing "philosophy".


Posted by: Sue Dawn | Link to this comment | 09- 9-05 9:47 PM
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