That might be tomorrow's addendum; I can't flip ahead on someone else's calendar.
I thought it was the opposite of a dented can, rather, a swollen one. Convex vs. Concave. I thought that was a sign of botulism and always imagined unsavory things growing inside.
the dents are caused by ephemera: malevolent ephemera. The ephemera insert excessive yellow bile into the can. The can then contains a bile imbalance. The bile imbalance causes the ancestors of the can to anger, and in response, the ancestors release ogg into the can. Ogg tastes bad.
The dent can cause an air leak that starts the botulism growing. A swollen can means that it's had more time to develop.
botulism is just another word for the ogg of angry ancestors.
Joe O, those people are really persnickety though. Further down, they say that it's risky to eat left-overs from a restaurant.
"Q: My favourite restaurant is always happy to send the leftovers home in a doggy bag — can I eat it?
A: Food in a doggy bag has likely had a tough time. It's been sitting around on your plate cooling down, it's been contaminated by you while you were eating it, and then it's been carried home before finally being put in the fridge, so it is a risk. Experts advise that if you are going to risk it, make sure it spends no more than four hours between the time it first landed on your plate and when you get it home into the fridge, which could be tricky — and it should always be reheated really well."
I understand why we worry about botulism in relation to canned goods, but why, it seems to me, only botulism? I'm sure there are other microbial buggaboos out there. Do they not like soup?
SB, my understanding is that botulin doesn't give you much warning in the way of off odors or colors.
How did ogged not know this?
Probably because I grew up eating almost no canned food. Cultural differences, Ben; try to be sensitive.
Beware of swollen cans.
I thought maybe because your mother had it in for you.
Botulism also isn't an infection, but a condition caused by a poison (bacteria poop, basically), and it's harder to treat (since antibiotics won't work.) since the toxin just paralyzes muscles.
and bacteria are our ancestors. Hence . . .
Of course. It is the ogg of our ancestor, C. botulinum.
Here's a story that is only a little bit relevant, but I want to tell it anyway.
So my family follows the classic Jewish immigrant pattern:
1) The generation that immigrates makes money doing something legal, but not particularly high prestige (e.g. buying apartment buildings in a ghetto).
2) Their children then make money doing something professional (e.g. medicine or the law).
3) Their children forego money-making in order to do something altruistic or intellectually or artistically ambitious (e.g. legal aid attorney or writing).
4) Their children start out pursuing the third path and then veer off into the second. (That's me, a failed academic now in law school).
So, anyway, here's the relevant part. My grandmother's youngest uncle made his money rescuing sunken cans from the botton of the city harbor and reselling them without the labels during the depression.
"What's for dinner?"
"Harbor Surprise!"
Why were so many cans at the bottom of the harbor?
Botulism's obtained from certain mid-areas of bulging cans.
Bogomilism obtains in certain medieval Bulgarian kings.
I second Saiselgy's question in 21.
Bulging cans are few and far between ATM.
I'm still getting used to this new meaning for the initialism "ATM". My mind still tends to read in a different meaning, and I don't mean the one having to do with cash dispensers.
I don't mean the one having to do with cash dispensers
Yes, but everybody in the industry knows that ATM pays better. ATM.
21, 24, I would guess that's where the trash went.
Yes, but everybody in the industry knows that ATM pays better. ATM.
Yes, but ATM puts you at risk of some seriously malevolent ephemera, especially if you perform ATM ATM.
What's a little hepatitis between friends?
Nothing that an Altoid won't rectify.
That's exactly what I was warning you about.
rectifying altoids is usually performed before ATM ATM, not after.
That gives "curiously strong" a whole new meaning.
I mean, I've never tried "rectifying" them.
and I don't mean the one having to do with cash dispensers.
Does somebody want to give me a clue? I'm missing all the jokes.
It took me a while, too.
It took me a while, too.
Yeah, you have to be pretty hard up for the money.
36: it's especially inadvisable with the new "sour" altoids.
I think rectified altoids are called asteroids.
Wow, it sure didn't take long for this thread to degenerate into degeneracy.
Nowhere is the slippery slope into degeneracy steeper than it is ATM.
Zounds. Thanks, I think. It's like "tossing salad" +1. Ugh.
I got it at 30, but was terribly puzzled up to that point.
(I'm reminded of a 9th grade English class, where a somewhat flaky teacher was attempting to convince the class that some incident in (I think) Great Expectations had a sexual double meaning. No one in the class could figure it out, and the teacher refused to explain explicitly, leaving the matter at "Cheese! Come on, it's cheese! God, you guys are so naive.")
Oh, wow. I thought it was just garden-variety analingus, but then I clicked the link. What an educational site you have here, ogged.
garden-variety analingus
There's a construction you don't see used very often.
You would prefer "good old fashioned rimming"?
Let's bear in mind the use-mention distinction.
that's when you use fresh greens instead of iceberg, and lose the croutons.
You would prefer "good old fashioned rimming"?
Who wouldn't? You're missing an indefinite article between prefer and good, by the way.
This is the most outstanding unfogged thread in the anals of unfogged history.
This is the most outstanding unfogged thread in the anals of unfogged history.
Indeed, with a moustache no less.
Seriously, this is a slow day here at the Mineshaft or perhaps it's just a busy one for ogged.
I'm just sad that the innocence of ATM has been corrupted.
By the way, is 53 re 47, 50, or 52?
There are many paths to the waterfall.
The degenerate meaning was here first.
I propose we use A2M for the porn meaning, so that we can continue using ATM with light hearts.
If you'll pardon the non sequitur, you all might be amused to read the Free Republic folks coming to the conclusion (and stating it!) that Bush is an idiot after all.
Why is everyone all het up about "at the moment"?
We might be able to salvage ATM, but I think the Altoid's chalky whiteness has been forever sullied.
Why is everyone all het up about "at the moment"?
Ask your aching, tumescent mastodon.
This is just an awful thread. Just awful.
I propose we use A2M for the porn meaning, so that we can continue using ATM with light hearts.
I propose that "ATM" carry as many meanings as possible, so pretty soon Unfogged threads will consist of nothing but repeated instances of "ATM" separated occasionally by pronouns, proper nouns, prepositions, and conjunctions. It'll be kind of like the use of the word "smurf." Only different.
That's the smurfest idea I've ever heard.
it's also a network protocol. if, uh, that helps.
According to acronymfinder.com, "ATM" can stand for "Abstinence 'Till Marriage." ATM's innocence is saved!
but the fact that ATM is so many things to so many people indicates promiscuity.
I'm a bit worried by ogged's relative silence in this thread. Is it possible he caught botulism from a bit of bad meat in the can ATM*.
*at the mineshaft
mark me deeply unsatisfied, and not a little bored, joe.
Not to mention, it's only civilized to put it in a bowl or on a plate first, especially if the can's dented.
mark me deeply unsatisfied, and not a little bored, joe.
Seems there's a lot of that going around.
Botulism is an anaerobic microrganism. It will not grow in an oxygen rich environment. A dented can letting air in will not lead to botulism. Botulism is introduced to cans before they are sealed, then produces a swelling of a sealed can as it grows. It produces a very dangerous toxin.
A dented can is fine, unless it is breached, in which case the air entering the can will of course spoil the food it contains, as hundreds of aerobic microrganisms begin to grow. You sould not eat spoiled food.
Technically, I think the anaerobic microorganism is B. Botulinus, and botulism is the toxin it produces?
Botulism is the toxin it produces. But Weiner, oughtn't you to have written "B. botulinus"?
Also: don't feed honey to babies, you might kill them.
But why not B. botulinus? Does Botulism run Botulinux?
Yeah yeah. Good night.
In other ingestion-related health hazard news, no matter how much you want a buzz, don't lick camel toads.
I concur. That made my day, apo.
It's actually C. botulinum; it's in the same genus as the tetanus microbe, which produces a toxin that has a structure very similar to botulinum toxin's.
Re 83: Botulism is the disease caused by the toxin released by C. botulinum, which is called botulinum toxin (the active ingredient in Botox)-- in other words, it's botulinum toxin poisoning.
Thanks. A limerick from the book Murder Ink which rhymed "B. botulinus" with "looks like accident. How's that for slyness?" is based on a lie.
