Re: More Lessons In Charm

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"Something smells good."

The standard answer to this when I was in high school was: "It's my erection. I can't believe you can smell it all the way over there."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:03 PM
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Would have been great if she'd said that.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:04 PM
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That's awesome, apostropher.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:05 PM
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Any woman who thinks she smells better than baked goods is delusional.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:57 PM
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Which is why we use all of those vanilla-scented creams and lotions.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:01 PM
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"vanilla-scented creams and lotions"


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:04 PM
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4: Maybe not if she works in a bakery.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:05 PM
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Man, the first time I ever had sex (in the Clintonian sense), I though I should smell really good, so I finally cracked open the scented products I'm always getting for Xmas and never using, which that year included a bunch of Victoria's Secret vanilla stuff. I thought it would be mild, so I went a little crazy with lotion and power and spray, and I realized when I was done that my own odor was making me a little ill. The boy in question told me it wasn't a problem, but I didn't believe him.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:38 PM
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I don't much care for vanilla-scented perfumes. I don't want to smell like cookies. I want to eat the cookies.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:40 PM
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I hope she didn't have a yeast problem or she would have been really mad at you.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:42 PM
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I agree, Tia. Too much vanilla is definitely a bad thing. Back before the smoking ban, I came home from a concert late one night reeking of cigarette (and other) smoke. It was about 2 AM, I was drunk, and I knew I had to be up in four hours for work, so I didn't want to take a shower because I was afraid that would just wake me up and I wouldn't be able to get any sleep that night to sober up. I had the "great idea at the time" to spray myself all over with a heavy dose of a vanilla-ish perfume to cover up the smoke smell so I could get to sleep (planning to shower in the morning). Yeah, that worked out great. I almost lost my dinner from the intermingled odors. I finally gave up and took a shower.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:49 PM
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I don't think smell particularly tasty, but I can bake.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:51 PM
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12 s/b I don't think I smell...


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:52 PM
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I think it's pretty charming how Mr. B brags about his domestic abilities. On the subway home from the meetup, he practically demanded to sew my pockets.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:55 PM
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Oh, reading this thread is making me ill. I have a very sensitive sense of smell, and can't stand sweet perfumy smells -- being in the same room as a scented candle makes me terribly unhappy. That and flavored coffee. Actual perfume is usually okay, but the sweet ones sometimes set off the same need to lose my lunch. (I think it's something in the perfumes, rather than just the smell -- i.e., the actual smell of flowers or vanilla don't bother me at all, but a scented candle trying to smell like flowers or vanilla revolts me.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:56 PM
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he practically demanded to sew my pockets

That one probably was a euphemism.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:56 PM
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so I went a little crazy with...power

A characteristic I've learned to watch out for.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:58 PM
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And baking is vitally important. I do far less than my fair share of housework, and cover for myself with the occasional batch of cookies or loaf of bread. Making the house smell good on weekends is key for appear to fulfill one's domestic responsibilities.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:58 PM
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ing


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:59 PM
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I threw up once in church because of all the incense & the cloying perfume of the lady in front of me at some important Mass.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:59 PM
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ogged--woman--unfortunate new perfume--sex act--trooper--never again.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:01 PM
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You had to perform a sex act on a trooper because of her perfu--

Ogged, that story doesn't make any sense at all.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:02 PM
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Ogged is Bill Clinton! Of course!


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:05 PM
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Bill Clinton is Mexican?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:06 PM
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He's light skinned.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:07 PM
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12. A missed opportunity - we should have discussed baking at the meetup. Somehow, I think it would have gone well with the harry potter argument.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:15 PM
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In 21 was ogged just listing recent search terms which have shown up in the referrer logs?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:15 PM
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I think Ogged's date was wearing a new, very nice, prefume, which was unfortunate, because when he was pulled over, the trooper smelled it, which resulted in a sex act between the trooper and Ogged's date.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:21 PM
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woman--unfortunate new perfume--sex act--trooper--never again.

My best friend was in a similar situation with a woman while parked in a car in a parking lot. Police officer knocked on the window, had them get out in their partially undressed state, and asked for their licenses and registration (it was her car).

He looked over all the documents, and then started laughing uncontrollably. Turns out he noticed that the names on my friend's license and on the registration didn't match up, since the car was registered to the woman's husband, and figured out that my friend was not her husband. He let them go without giving them a ticket, so the husband remained unaware of the whole situation.

My friend is a bit of a bastard, btw.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:26 PM
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Don't say you weren't warned, ogged.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:28 PM
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Shit.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:30 PM
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31: That was the unfortunate new perfume?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:31 PM
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It's French.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:32 PM
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#12: You're baking? Yay!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:38 PM
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Hmmph. I wanted to respond to 13 by linking to BPhD's post about Mr. B's claimed ability to tell, by a woman's smell, whether her period was imminent -- but I couldn't find the damned thing.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:50 PM
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35: Wasn't that in comments?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:58 PM
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36: I dunno. Maybe, but I couldn't find it with numerous strange Google searches (with keywords like bitchphd, Mr. B, period, menstrual, premenstrual, cooch, copper, metallic, etc.).


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:00 PM
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Thanks, guys. I'm not at all creeped out now.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:05 PM
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Sorry, B. My apologies (for that, among other things). I don't know why that's creepier than all the incredibly obscure things from comments here that people remember (which amaze me, even though I pride myself on having a great memory).


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:08 PM
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I'm not at all creeped out now.

Oh, but you are. We can smell it on you.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:12 PM
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A friend of mine wrote a great story called, "Cats Smell Fear".


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:16 PM
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Oh, but you are. We can smell it on you.

Tit for tat, Clarice. Tit for tat.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:17 PM
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Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:21 PM
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You link to your blog every time you leave a comment, you know.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:23 PM
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Hey, maybe I should eat my placenta with some fava beans and a nice chianti.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:24 PM
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(Trying to change the subject, if that wasn't obvious before.) The somewhat surreal story involved, as I recall, a young woman who threw dinner parties in which the other female guests had spit cups for their food, as in wine tastings.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:25 PM
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#44. Yes, but I don't expect anyone to actually click over to the damn thing!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:26 PM
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Tia, if you eat your placenta, would you tell me if it tastes like liver?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:27 PM
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Anyway, despite that link, I think boundaries are good.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:27 PM
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Apostropher, stop oppressing b.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:28 PM
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I don't think I remember what liver tastes like, B. I remember it being nasty when I was a kid, but my mom is a terrible cook and besides, I hated lots of things when I was a kid that are teh yum, so no, I'm sorry, I won't be able to.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:30 PM
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Boundaries are good, unless you put 'em in the wrong place


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
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I didn't mention anybody's vagina.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
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Foie gras is pretty awesome, aside from the cruelty.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
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53: Au contraire.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:34 PM
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Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.

B, again, I'm sorry. If you don't want me to ever link to anything on your blog, I won't. And I wasn't talking about your vagina, although you do so fairly frequently. "Cooch," as best I recall regarding your post in question, was a word you used in reference to Mr. B's olfactory abilities, i.e. to detect odors emanating from other women's premenstrual "cooches." I am happy to respect your boundaries, and Ogged's, if I can figure them out.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:35 PM
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55: You have a filthy mind, Tia.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:37 PM
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Oh, Apostropher. You're my Unfogged blog boyfriend, you silly thing, you. Don't take everything so personally.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
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54: But that's what makes it so delicious.


Posted by: tom | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
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Reviewing this thread (8,11,15), spit cups seem more relevant than I had thought.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
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Don't take everything so personally.

Who, me? I just wanted to say vagina.

Vagina vagina vagina.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:39 PM
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You know what's hilarious? Vagenda.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:40 PM
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You made me laugh, O., and for that I hate you.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:41 PM
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Hate me, in a show-me-your-tits kind of way?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:43 PM
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wtf?


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:48 PM
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You're my Unfogged blog boyfriend

Wait, does this mean you have one at every blog?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:49 PM
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Stay out of this, mister.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:49 PM
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wtf?

This may become your new handle.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:50 PM
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"That's Mister wtf? to you, smartass."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:51 PM
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jhtc why don't you fellas stop objectifying my bitch. It's too cold.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:53 PM
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Some of us want her for her mind and her body, Mr. B.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:57 PM
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I disclaim and disavow any purported attempt to objectify Dr. B or any part of her. I was trying to objectify your nose, Mr. B, but I have desisted in that endeavor as well.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:00 PM
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"jhtc"?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:01 PM
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just here to cay?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:02 PM
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Jesus hates the commies?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:04 PM
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72- You can go curl up and die. I'll joke with the rest, but not with you. And you know why.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:06 PM
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Jewish High-Tech Community.

Which would make sense, except that w'ere all Mexican.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:06 PM
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JHTC, per acronymfinder.com: Jewish High Tech Community. Mr. B is saying that we're all part of the Zionist conspiracy to objectify his wife. Why did you have to go there, Mr. B?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:09 PM
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Uh oh. I'm coming home now, dear. And I expect cookies.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:09 PM
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Dammit apo!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:10 PM
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Sorry, clarification: Jesus H (holy) Tap-dancing Christ, as said by Jake Blues in a moment of revelation.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:10 PM
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You can't expect a bunch of Jews to get a Jesus acronym, sweetie.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:11 PM
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Dammit apo!

Can't touch this.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:13 PM
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Madre de Dios!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:13 PM
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Wait, he's standing in front of a black hole, he's wearing gold lame pants, and they pose him with a folding chair?


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:17 PM
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Plus they forgot to move the Coke can under the chair.

Someone tell me to go home, please.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:18 PM
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82 - I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red. 'Sides, I've not read enough here to know that anyone here is Jewish, least not that I recall.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:18 PM
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Jews and Arabs, the lot of 'em. Except for the Mexicans.

Thanks for defending my honor. Cookies?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
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Go home, bitch!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
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I can think of three off the top of my head. But I won't sabotage their attempts to pass as Mexican by outing them.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
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Thanks, Ben.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:22 PM
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On the internet, no one knows you're not Mexican.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:22 PM
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Except the Jews.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:23 PM
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And the Gayatollah.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:24 PM
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Gracias, apo.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:39 PM
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Is it just me, or does 87 read like a Kerouac letter?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:05 PM
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Kerouac couldn't recall being friends with any Jews either?


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:09 PM
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No, he was friends with Ginsberg. Fine, I'm crazy.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:13 PM
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One can often also tell by taste, in addition to smell. That's to be expected, since the two senses are closely related.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:24 PM
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99: Whether someone's Jewish?

Kobe!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:26 PM
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Jews taste funny?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:26 PM
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It's like we share a brain, B.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:27 PM
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You, me and LB. Kind of like the Trinity.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:32 PM
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The Trinity is Jewish. I can smell it.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:52 PM
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Shouldn't 100 be "Wilt!" rather than "Kobe!"?


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:52 PM
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Thanks for classing up the joint, 99.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:00 PM
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There's always one that goes too far.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:25 PM
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Adam Kotsko: Unfogged's Infamous Bad Boy


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:30 PM
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That's what a theology degree will do for you.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:30 PM
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It's always the Catholic girls who go bad.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:47 PM
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I really hope this Mexican thing continues for years to come.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:57 PM
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Boy, I'm half-Jewish, I have a slight moustache--I'm constantly in this indeterminate state between smells and polarities.

(You know, I like The Chalice and the Blade. It just goes to show one should not procrastinate.)


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:04 PM
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Of course it will. The Mexicans can't be stopped, you know that.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:04 PM
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Mexican is the new gay! No, wait. That doesn't really solve the problem.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:05 PM
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Does "Brokeback" not work?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:06 PM
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The Mexicans are a problem?

Racist.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:06 PM
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Uh, don't you mean "rascist"?


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:07 PM
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Right, Raggy.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:08 PM
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4, 20: Looking back at the beginning of this thread, I am reminded of the guy who claimed that my private bits smelled so much like incense that he had started getting erections in church.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:10 PM
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72- You can go curl up and die. I'll joke with the rest, but not with you. And you know why.

I could respond in equally obnoxious fashion, but I'll forbear -- unless you really want me to.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:16 PM
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On the one hand, an acrimonious flameout could be amusing. On the other, it could be unpleasant.

Hmm…


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:18 PM
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Hey what's going on in here? I don't read the comments threads for a day and everybody gets all personal!


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:20 PM
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A flameout in a thread called "More Lessons In Charm" would be a little too cute, I think. Maybe forbearance?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:22 PM
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Without your irenic counsel, Jeremy, all hell breaks loose.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:22 PM
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How you guys can talk about a flame war after Tia's last comment, I'll never understand.

Anyway, I'm not in the mood for acrimony.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:23 PM
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Tia's comment was indeed hilarious. I'm not particularly in the mood for acrimony, either, but being told to "curl up and die" rubbed me the wrong way. Go figure.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:24 PM
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F., It'd probably be best for all involved if you quietly went away.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:26 PM
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Stop distracting ogged fro his thoughts of pretty green leaves, and the nice smell of colorful flowers.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:26 PM
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Don't forget the rassling, laughing squirrels.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:27 PM
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#119: Good thing he didn't throw up on your pew.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:28 PM
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O, there's a difference between a flameout and a flamewar. The former are often amusing, the latter rarely.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:31 PM
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This is kind of off-topic, but I was just reflecting how nice it was that none of my stalkers have ever followed me to Unfogged.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:32 PM
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You have stalkers?


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:33 PM
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Maybe not, Adam, but I followed you to The Weblog.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:33 PM
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Next up: Ben sues Adam for calling him a stalker.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:36 PM
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Same here. Ever since I demolished the analytic-synthetic distinction it's been "Fuck you, Willard" everywhere I go.


Posted by: W.V.O. Quine | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:36 PM
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Hey Willard, I gotcher desert landscape right here! *moons Quine*


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:38 PM
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96- I do believe that that is the most flattering comparison ever lavished upon any thing I ever wrote. Thanks


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:39 PM
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"Two Dogmas of Empiricism" is so not dispositive. Fricking Quine.


Posted by: baa | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
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Yes, I at least used to have a stalker whom we affectionately labelled "The Troll of Sorrow." For a long time, he would show up in almost every thread I would participate in (except here) -- accusing me of being a pseudo-intellectual, of being too religious, of being a blasphemer, of reading atheist philosophers even though I was a Christian, of not knowing enough about the halting problem, of being a pedophile (because I'm going to a seminary, you know), of knowing nothing about reason or argument, of ignoring the trascendent genius of Quine.

It was weird. Sometimes he would go through these periods where it was like he was trying to reason with me, then he'd just get really really mad at me. Or he'd claim that he was going to leave me alone (having tired of me), but then comment again 30 seconds later.

So Ogged was actually pretty smart never to blogroll me, meaning that I never blogrolled him, meaning that the Troll never visited this page and discovered that I comment here regularly. Good job, Ogged.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
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Now this is a flamewar I'm up for.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
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You are a pseudo-intellectual blasphemer, Adam.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:42 PM
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136: Maybe they just really hated the movie, and your presence reminded them of it. Admittedly, the chronology of events cuts against this interpretation.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:43 PM
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It was you this whole time! You bitch!


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
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We are legion.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
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For a long time, he would show up in almost every thread I would participate in (except here) . . .

meaning that the Troll never visited this page and discovered that I comment here regularly

The dude didn't have the smarts to Google "Adam Kotsko"? They don't make stalkers like they used to.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
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Yeah, now they're all just whiny passive-aggressive little shits.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:47 PM
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Ah, ok, I had seen references to this "Troll of Sorrow", but had not understood the whole thing. That sounds incredibly annoying.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:54 PM
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More here.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:56 PM
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Adam Kotsko concealed the fact that the Troll of Sorry also called him a hich from Kalamazoo or Ypsilanti or whichever godforsaken town he's from. The Troll is a California sophisticate.

Has the Troll disappeared since it became illegal to annoy people anonymously (or pseudonymously) on the internet? Maybe. One guy has the Troll's ID nailed down, and maybe the fear of God have been put into him.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:02 PM
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Wow, I had heard of disemvowelment from Wampum, but never knew about those other troll treatments until I read Holbo's post. Only the hardiest of trolls persists after being disemvoweled a few times.

For the uninitiated, disemvowelment would reduce the above paragraph to:

Ww, hd hrd f dsmvwlmnt frm Wmpm, bt nvr knw bt thse thr trll trtmnts ntl rd Hlb's pst. nly th hrdst f trlls prssts ftr bng dsmvwld fw tms.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:10 PM
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138--I was serious:

"I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red."

Seemed like something out of one of his letters to, dammit, I can't remember her name, but they published a collection of their correspondence. Or in Big Sur, when he talks about going to the reading at City Lights.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:48 PM
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He is also an anti-Semite, so he accused me of being a "Skokie hick," because apparently Skokie (a Chicago suburb) has a big Jewish population. I didn't know that people still used "Jew" as an insult. And the weird thing is, I'm not even Jewish.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:59 PM
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Subtle, Adam.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:03 PM
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Because my brain is just one twisty maze of random hyperlinks, the word "charm" somehow retrieves this excerpt from my memory from a Television Without Pity recap of American Idol:

Next up to audition is a guy with the unlikely name of Charm, who says he has a "love of music". Nobody who loves music would treat it so badly. He wails and shrieks "The Greatest Love of All." Music runs away and seeks refuge at a shelter for domestic violence victims. Music gets counseling for a couple of weeks and a part-time job as a secretary at a dentist's office. Charm comes crawling back, promising that he's changed and swears that he won't abuse Music anymore, but Music knows better. Randy and Simon tell him he's awful. In the confessional, Charm whines that Simon and Randy were mean. He's going to blame the rejection all on Music later and use it as an excuse to abuse it some more: "Bitch! What did I tell you about making me look bad?" When is Music going to listen to its friends and get that restraining order?

Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:13 PM
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So when we call your drunk posting charming, you take it as a reflection on your karaoke skills?


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:16 PM
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Ben,

I was just clarifying, because Emerson seems (shockingly) to have a part of the Troll of Sorrow mythos wrong -- the town he mentioned was not motivated by where I grew up (I've never even been to Skokie), but by his desire to accuse me of being a Jew.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:41 PM
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Kotsko the atheistic Jew seminarian. Makes sense.

He's going to blame the rejection all on Music later and use it as an excuse to abuse it some more: "Bitch! What did I tell you about making me look bad?"

Let's not drag her into this.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:45 PM
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Frederick, DO NOT DO THIS.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:46 PM
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I've been to Skokie many times, most recently to buy "The Year of Yes" at the Barnes & Noble there. Skokie used to be very heavily Jewish. Frank Collin and his band of neo-Nazi idiots (met by a much larger group of counter-demonstrators) marched there 20 years ago to upset the residents, a fair number of whom are WWII concentration camp survivors. I think Skokie's a lot more mixed these days.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:49 PM
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159: it was an attempt at humor. I frankly don't see how it can interpreted in a malevolent way.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:52 PM
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If not malevolent, can you not see how it might not have played well? Sounded "off"? Have you got a tin ear, sir? At long last, have you got a tin ear?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:54 PM
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note to self: when we reach Emerald city, ask for replacement for tin ear.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:58 PM
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Ok, not only are you guys going to stop, but I'm going to delete comments 163 and 165.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:03 PM
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Great, I'm glad this worked out then. Best wishes!


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:03 PM
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But now other comments are 163 and 165! Someone write me a Borges story.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:05 PM
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apologies.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:06 PM
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Wait, what was deleted?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:07 PM
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Oh, Kotsko's comment and one I didn't get to read.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:08 PM
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If I told you, ogged would have to delete it again. Have some pity on the dude.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:08 PM
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What can I say? I'm an obsessive stalker following Bitch PhD around the Internet to defend her honor.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:13 PM
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That's not a stalker... seems a bit more like a sidekick, no?


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:24 PM
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Shhh. Adam's and my relationship is a seekrit. I don't want Apostropher to get jealous.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:26 PM
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oh, it wasn't my 163 that was so offensive? Whew. I'll cop to dumb, but I didn't think there was a proscription on Oz references.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:27 PM
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No, Michael, nothing you said.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:28 PM
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Ogged is really sensitive about his tin ear.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:29 PM
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Someone should create The Blog of Sand where no two comments ever have the same number and the numbers appear in no discernible sequence.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:30 PM
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Thank you.


Posted by: Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:31 PM
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I once proposed labeling comments with random dictionary words.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:39 PM
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I still haven't gotten the keys to the Bitchcave.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:40 PM
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DIMPLE to HUGUENOT, obviously.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:42 PM
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180-

I was going to suggest we make an acronym for "and that's not a euphemism" (atnae), but what we really need is a euphemism for "and that's not a euphemism".


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:45 PM
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XIXc euphemisms include donkey, rooster, white meat, dark meat, and limb for ass, cock, breast, thigh, and leg respectively. Of these, white meat probably would be the best substitute for euphemism. Dark meat would sound like a racial reference, whereas white meat sounds like white bread, and white bread people do use euphemism.

On the other hand, visit Mrs. Murphy is a euphemism for go to the toilet. So Mrs. Murphy could be used to mean euphemism, until an actual Mrs. Murphy shows up here.

This wouldn't be a euphemism though, it would be more like a kenning. Also, it would be strictly Gongoristic, though I would call it euphuistic.

Insert as needed to clarify sense and reference: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Why should I do all the work around here?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 4:38 AM
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"Also, it would be strictly Gongoristic, though I wouldn't call it euphuistic. "


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 4:42 AM
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We already have a perfectly good euphemism for going to the bathroom (shittings only): "legislate from the bench".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 6:57 AM
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What about "vacate the premises"?


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:39 AM
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I'm afraid I have to insist on "legislate from the bench". Sorry.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:42 AM
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I agree with Ben w-lfs-n 110%. That's more than it's technically possible to agree with someone, so you can tell it's serious.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:47 AM
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You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight. I am happy to see the conversation turn to shitting euphemisms (void the contract?).

Also, Fine. I'll do it.

I suppose this is just fear of death getting in the back door

Oh, is *that* what you're afraid is getting in the back door?

You people disgust me.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:51 AM
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Wow, you're 26? That's pretty old. Maybe that's what "your private parts smell like incense" is a euphemism for.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:55 AM
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Unfortunately for Cleveland, I've taken the browns to the superbowl many more times than they will ever go themselves.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:58 AM
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Whatever, Kotsko. Aren't you 25?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:59 AM
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I got that comment when I was 22, much closer to my prime. Aren't you 25? Just wait till next year when your penis falls off. What, no one told you?


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:59 AM
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Once your penis falls off, that's when you start getting into some really freaky shit. At least that's what I've heard.

Yes, I'm 25.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:01 AM
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It's like losing your baby teeth, though. A bigger one grows in.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:05 AM
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keep telling yourself that ben.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:06 AM
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It's the only thought that gets me through the day.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:07 AM
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189: Why do you call yourself Shit girl? That doesn't seem to square with your foldy bits smelling like incense.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
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You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight.

You and Ogged are wise. Sorry I didn't heed the counsel. Cool neologism -- gylanic. Never heard it before.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
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You know, reading old threads about comment bloat and such makes me feel guilty, because I never properly gleaned that one's Unfogged comments should be carefully cut jewels, and I've never particularly edited mine or concerned myself with whether they were really *that* funny; I'm usually satisfied to make a good-natured attempt at humor, and I guess I lucked out by sidling in just when the comment volume got so great that w-lfs-n just couldn't keep up with the deviations from standard grammar and usage anymore. It makes me feel like I've been trolling, in a very mild way, all this time.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
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Transgressive!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:11 AM
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It is of the nature of neologisms that one has "never heard it before".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:11 AM
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cut jewels... *shiver*

also, wha? there was never any quality control on Unfogged threads. if you read the old 100-comment threads, about half the comments are about how we might get 100 comments if we all keep commenting.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:13 AM
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Chopper is the sexiest!


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:13 AM
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When preparing to heed the call of nature, I like to simply announce "Beeeep, beeeeep, beeep..." much like a dump truck.

We're all class at my house.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
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True. But surely there are neologisms ("truthiness," say), that I have managed to hear before.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
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Anyway, Frederick, "wb" as we say here on the webbage! Good to see you and whatnot. Can I interest you in a hot brandy flip, perchance?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
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206 to 202.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:15 AM
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204: Apostropher may be the hero, but Chopper is the sexiest! Schweeeet.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:15 AM
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Thanks, ben. I could certainly use a drink, inter alia because I've slept in the office the last two nights.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:17 AM
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"np" as we say! I wonder, though, if "truthiness" is really a neologism. After all, you've heard it before. Now, we don't want neologismity to be simply a matter of relative ignorance on the part of the listener, for many a person has not heard words with old and even impressive lineages. And yet, is there not some truth the the expression, "if I haven't heard it, it's new to me"? Neologisticalness is, I maintain strenuously, not simply a temporal affair!

This is a difficult question.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:20 AM
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Also, technically, you used "inter alia" incorrectly there. There's no referent for "alia".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:22 AM
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Is it neologismity or neologisticalness? Make up your mind. (How about neologismicity?)


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
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Should your penis fall off, the logical thing would be to put it under your pillow at night as you go to sleep. No?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
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Said, in passing to a commentator this morning:

"Something smells like, bad."

Said commentator looked at me like "Duh, we're all talking about shit."

"No, I think its actually you."


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
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"neologismity" and "neologisticalness" are both correct, highlighting as they do different aspects of neuwortlichkeit.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:24 AM
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This reminds me of the song, Detachable Penis, by King Missle.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
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too, many commas.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
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215 its s/b it's red again...


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
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203: Thanks, I feel much better now. I guess I'm just fantasizing that a halcyon age existed just before I stepped into the scene.

So, like, Scarlett Johansson is teh hott!1!


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:26 AM
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We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis." Although the song is obviously absurd, perhaps one must take the risk of taking the song at its word. Are we not all constitutively those with a detachable penis? Do we not always wake up every morning to "find that it's missing again"? Is not the "detachable penis" the best example of Lacan's objet petit a, the object-cause of desire?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:27 AM
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I always think of "inter alia" as synonymous with "among other things." I see Black's Law Dictionary defines it that way. So the first thing, if you will, is "because I've slept in the office the last two nights." Why is that wrong? Usually I see people write the thing(s) and then put "inter alia" after it/them, but is it wrong the way I did it? (I trust that you'll tell me that the short answer is "yes.")


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:30 AM
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Hey, "constitutively". I & others were recently advised that if we wanted a career or paper, we should look at some word or phrase that pops up a lot without ever really being explained; examples given were "in virtue of", "qua", and "constitutive".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:31 AM
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Ben's too nice. Red. Red. Red. 's all red.


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:32 AM
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Should your penis fall off, the logical thing would be to put it under your pillow at night as you go to sleep. No?

That depends whether you want it sewn it back on, in which case you should put it in ice and get to a surgeon ASAP (see "Bobbitt, John Wayne"), or whether you want the Penis Fairy to leave a dollar under your pillow. btw, Felicity Huffman used a detachable penis in "Transamerica."


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:35 AM
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Tia, I was raised not to make comments about odors in the personal area. The younger folk will have to make up their own excuses.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:36 AM
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"alia" is properly just "others"; it's the neuter plural so I suppose it could be read substantively as just "other things". But you could say: "I had many reasons; inter alia, I'm utterly nonresponsive to social signals"; here, "alia" would refer to "reasons".


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:36 AM
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We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis."


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:38 AM
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Missile. Really, Ben. I expected better of you.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:40 AM
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Follow the link, apostropher. I merely report—you decide.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:41 AM
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Like so many other things, it's Kotsko's fault.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:41 AM
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Ah. You did live up to my expectations. I apologize and will don this hairshirt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:43 AM
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We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis."


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:45 AM
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...this hairshirt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:45 AM
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damn you apo! damn you!


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:46 AM
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I know my spelling of the word "missle" is controversial. And I invite debate. That's one of the things that's great about this country. But the American people can tell honest debate from defeatism and undermining.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:46 AM
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235: Not very neighborly, TD.

236: The terrorists have won.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:48 AM
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237 to 236: this is true.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:52 AM
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kay wait. I have a rules of jinx question. Is it still possible to jinx the little bitch who shall not be named for 192-193. If so, jinx personal jinx 1-2-3 no takebacks!


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:01 AM
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To those who would jinx, I say: tempus fugit! Carpe diem!


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:03 AM
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I can't even remember what being jinxed means. I owe you a coke, right?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:05 AM
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No, you're not supposed to comment until I say your name. But now that you have, I get to punch you, that is, if it was a legitimate jinx in the first place. We need a panel to adjudicate.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:06 AM
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Given the nature of the case, I don't think I should be held accountable for comments made while the legitimacy of the jinx is in doubt. After all, that would provide a way to silence people with grossly illegitimate jinxes, until a panel convenes and issues its decision.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:10 AM
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Alright, you have a good point; I can't deprive you of liberty without due process. But who should do the adjudicating?


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:13 AM
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My ass, which is authoritative in these matters, says that this jinxing fad is one of the dumbest things ever to hit Unfogged. Who the hell started this? What are we, twelve?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:16 AM
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Jinxing is stupid.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:17 AM
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You don't think that Tia has an inherent right to jinx, without all of the hassles of oversight? Do you want the terrorists to win, or something?

At the very least, Tia should be able to jinx so long as she applies to the adjudicating panel with 72 hours.


Posted by: Matt #3 | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:17 AM
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The jinxing fad arose naturally from the rejection of Weiner-pwning. Restore Weiner-pwning and all will be well.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
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Seven, ogged. We are seven, and we are legion.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
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jinx personal jinx 1-2-3 no takebacks!


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
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Wwning is an abortion and ogged is right about jinxing.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:20 AM
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What are we, twelve?

No, Mexican.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:20 AM
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See, I totally just jinxed ogged. Teh relative simultaneity of comments is insufficient for jinxing purposes.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:21 AM
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I'm not sure what Weiner-pwning is, but I know I pwn Weiner.

I think jinxing should only be allowed if we've all had our cootie shots.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:22 AM
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I got that comment when I was 22, much closer to my prime.

Tia's prime was 23. Her next prime will be 29.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:23 AM
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I pwn Weiner

This should be a t-shirt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:23 AM
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Weiner-pwning is the custom of calling 'pwned' when a comment has been anticipated. It originated because I like to say 'pwned'. In the mature phase of the trend, it was customary for the pwnee to say 'pwned!' in chagrin; the end of this trend toward humility led to the 'jinx' trend, which is far more pernicious and has real-world consequences.

We wouldn't need cootie shots if all you girls hadn't started commenting.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:24 AM
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I thought that's what it meant. It just didn't make any sense.

I'm building a fort! 1-2-3 no boys allowed!! You're in my air!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:27 AM
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I hate you all.

Hey, that's like, every comment Ogged ever makes. Jinx!

I am seven, and I like it that way. It is a prime, and I have many more years of John Derbyshire's attention to look forward to.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:28 AM
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Cootie shots, or … shots at cooter?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:29 AM
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It wasn't always this way, Tia; not when people took care with their comments.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:30 AM
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What are we, twelve?

We're merely trying to recapture the feeling of those summer afternoons of youth. The clink of melting ice in lemonade; the satisfying thud of a well-lobbed tennis ball on the lawn; the yells of small children pulling one another's hair. You know.


Posted by: ac | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:31 AM
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[sticks tongue out at Cala, runs away]


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:32 AM
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o o . . now I've got the cootie shot.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:34 AM
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the cootie shot

This usage ATM parallels the more traditional "the money shot" in mainstream porn.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:37 AM
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You know, I wanted to do this the democratic way, freely offering the judiciary a check on my executive power, but you radicals are asserting your right not to be governed at all. Some people only understand force, it seems.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:38 AM
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[punches w-lfs-n]


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:38 AM
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267 -- a picture would be worth a thousand words if only it could be provided.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:40 AM
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Tia, you're a girl. Girls don't punch in Unfoddedistan. They pull hair.


Posted by: tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:40 AM
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#215: I wish to make clear that I was not part of this conversation, and have no idea what it was about. Thank you.

#242: If called upon to adjuciate, I agree that Tia has the right to hit Ben.

#245: I thought you liked 'em young, Ogged. Make up your damn mind.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:41 AM
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It is a joy and an honour to receive one of Tia's punches.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:41 AM
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I always suspected you were a bottom, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:44 AM
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271: Please rank: a) joy and honor of receiving one of my punches, b) joy and honour of receiving a photo of Bphd's breasts.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:48 AM
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I always suspected you were a bottom, w-lfs-n.

w-lfs-n meets Tia at last.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:48 AM
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A-and, I think I've finally figured out what "Tia" is short for!


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:50 AM
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274 and 275 -- Nice!


Posted by: Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:51 AM
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How could I, Tia? I only have experience of one of them.

I know it is a joy and honour to receive one of your punches, but have never experienced that joy and honour myself.

I suspect they're incommensurable anyway.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:52 AM
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#271: I feel sure it's no contest, as a punch involves actual physical contact, plus it's personal--whereas photos of breasts on teh internets are as common as, well, a very common thing.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:52 AM
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Perhaps Ben getting punched is a similarly common affair.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:56 AM
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I might prefer photos of Tia punching Ben. No offense, B.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:00 AM
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None taken. I'd rather see Tia punch Ben, too.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:02 AM
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I fully accept the right of other commenters to jinx me, so long as the jinx itself is not construed in such a way that it applies to me.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:03 AM
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Why not a photo of Tia punching Ben, with Bitch's tits in the background?


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:04 AM
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photos of breasts on teh internets are as common as, well, a very common thing.

Photos of Bitch, Ph. D.'s breasts on the internet are however scarcer than hen's teeth.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:12 AM
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Sadly, not as scarce as all that. Because I am cheap and tawdry.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:24 AM
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285 is pointless without a link.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:26 AM
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Now that I have consulted the urbandictionary, I see that bitchtits are indeed very common on the internet.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:32 AM
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Sorry, by "on the internets" I mean "available in digital form," rather than "posted on a web page."

That I know of.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:37 AM
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See, that conflicts with the definition I had in mind when I wrote 284.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:39 AM
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B is old school. She prefers Usenet.

alt.binaries.pictures.bitchtits


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:41 AM
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Sorry, by "on the internets" I mean "available in digital form," rather than "posted on a web page."

She lies!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:46 AM
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We should demand authentication if any photos show up. There are people out there who make their livings forging famous tits.

I don't think that the Tia-w-lfs-n picture was real either.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:55 AM
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292 -- hey are you accusing me of fraud?


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 10:57 AM
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By the power of Ogged which has been vested in me, I declare Osner to be guilty of fraud. He is now an outlaw and can be abused freely, as though he were Ogged himself.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:01 AM
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I get no respect.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:04 AM
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Well, you're now sort of an auxiliary Ogged. Is that not a wonderful achievement?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:09 AM
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an auxiliary Ogged

Oggedziliary.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:18 AM
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Oggedzilla!


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:36 AM
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Let it be proclaimed, then, that when Ogged is not in the house, we should all cast aspersions on Oggedzilla's sexuality.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:40 AM
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Chamberlain x3


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:43 AM
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Actually it's Chamberlain / 666.666.....


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:46 AM
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Not that alleged Chamberlain statistic; I was referring to his 100-point game.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:53 AM
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You're off by an order of magnitude, btw. Wilt "only" claimed 20,000 in his book, not 200,000.


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 11:57 AM
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((Chamberlain X 8) - ( Kobe X 5) - 1)


Posted by: Joe O | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:14 PM
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304 would make sense if it had an exclamation point at the end.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:29 PM
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That would be, like, a huge number.


Posted by: Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:30 PM
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In high school, my friends and I had a running joke about how to pronounce expressions using the ! (factorial) operation -- it was really funny. We'd say, like, "5!," you know, emphatically.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:33 PM
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dude, we're going to have to wait till comment 720 for the next integer factorial.


Posted by: Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:36 PM
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#291: So I do. However, there's not a lot you can tell from that tit picture other than that apparently they function.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:36 PM
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Same here, Adam. Only it was just me. Me and the laffs.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:39 PM
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the next integer factorial

Is factorial defined on non-integer inputs?


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:43 PM
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Can we not have another math-geek thread?

I'm trying to put off paperwork here, and I have no way to participate, other than to hand out purple nurples.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:46 PM
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My graphing calculator would return a result on non-integer inputs. I assume it knows what it's doing.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:48 PM
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to hand out purple nurples

First one goes to Urple, obviously.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:54 PM
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Actually, it looks like Kotsko signed up for the first one.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:55 PM
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Hey ogged--wtf is up with comments lately/today? I've been getting 404s after everytime I post. When I hit back and then refresh, my comment is there, but still...


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 12:58 PM
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307: We did a similar thing, only it was in college, and it was for pronouncing predicates in Scheme, which end with a question mark, to wit: list?

I don't know why I just admitted that.


Posted by: Matt #3 | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:10 PM
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Are decimal points important in math? I thought they were like commas, just to help you remember numbers.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:22 PM
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316: I always get the 404 error, too, but the comment shows up, so it's only a minor annoyance (to me, anyway).


Posted by: Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:29 PM
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Decimal points are critical in math. If you didn't have them, you wouldn't have a symbol that identified the surrounding numbers as decimals.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:35 PM
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(pointedly ignoring chopper) -- John, "decimal points are important" when you are talking about series, because series only have discrete members unlike functions which are defined along continuous ranges. Factorials are a series of numbers -- there is a factorial of 1, a factorial of 2, etc. but no factorial of 1.5. What Adam's calculator is doing, according to this Wikipaedia page, is Gamma function -- this is a function which coincides with the factorial series for integer inputs. Gamma is defined as, Gamma(z + 1) = integral from 0 to infinity of t^z * e^-t dt. For any integer n, Gamma(n) == n!. Trickier to calculate than factorials tho.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:35 PM
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Note, 321 was written before reading 320 -- the Chopper whom I was "pointedly ignoring" was the one who asked for no math-geekiness because he would have nothing to contribute. But in 320 he has clearly rebutted his own 312.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:37 PM
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Wikipaedia

Would that be the Wikipaedia Brittanica?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:40 PM
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Also: Osner, you just ordered yourself up a nice pinkbelly.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:41 PM
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And a million is quite a bit less than a billion? Like half as much?

I usually just throw out the zeros, because face it, they're nothing. Did I mention that I'm an English major?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:55 PM
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Hey, my link din't work proper! Here is the link to Wiki's discussion of the Gamma function.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 1:56 PM
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Cool, I thought I was alone in using purple nurple.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:10 PM
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The guy I work with gave the UPS guy a purple nurple this morning. This is not at all out of the ordinary.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:13 PM
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I think one could fairly say that UPS guy was earning his pay today.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:21 PM
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Matt #3: according to the jargon file, there's a similar custom for pronouncing predicates in Lisp, which end with a p or -p. Thus, one might say: "hungry-p?" (pron "hungry-pee").


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:22 PM
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Let us sing the praises of the Purple Nurple.

(SFW. Really.)


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:22 PM
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What do they call decimal points in Base 12?


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:28 PM
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Duodecimal points?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:29 PM
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So you're telling me there's some simpler method to calculate gamma functions for integers? All this time I've been doing them with pencil and paper.


Posted by: Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:34 PM
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332 and 333 got me wondering: How do you represent fractional numbers in binary? Is 1.1 equal to 10.0?


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:37 PM
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335 -- Here is how you represent fractional numbers in binary.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:38 PM
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Binary fractional numbers are written out exactly the same way as in decimal notation. Eg: 1.01 (binary) is 1*2**0 + 0*2**-1 +1*2**-2; that is, 1.25 (decimal)---1.25d being 1*10**0 + 2*10**-1 + 5*10**-2.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:39 PM
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The way finite computer hardware represents fractional numbers is not necessarily the way fractional numbers "are" represented in binary, no? After all, they'd have to resort to similar tricks for decimal.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:41 PM
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Yeah true. Your 337 is nice and concise too.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:43 PM
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330: Indeed Ben, we followed that convention, too. My sophomore roommate would ask each other if we wanted to go eat by saying, "food-p?"


Posted by: Matt #3 | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:48 PM
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From the jargon file: "One of the best of these [examples of the -p convention] is a {Gosperism}. Once, when we were at a Chinese restaurant, Bill Gosper wanted to know whether someone would like to share with him a two-person-sized bowl of soup. His inquiry was: "Split-p soup?""


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:53 PM
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My sophomore roommate would ask each other

And that sophomore roommate was—Walt Whitman!


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 2:54 PM
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Chopper -- as I walked to work this morning, I passed a dump truck backing up to the loading dock underneath the Empire State building, making its characteristic beeping noise; I thought of your family's cacaphemism. And I laughed.


Posted by: Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-27-06 7:44 AM
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[blush] The correct neologism is, "cacophemism". Teach me to try and sound all clever and literate! (Also on the walk this morning, I thought about this comments thread and that maybe we could arrange a screening at Banana Lofts of "Pointless Flame War II: This Time it's Personal". But Frederick and Adam seem to be getting along well enough in their tensely non-communicative way, so maybe not.)


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