My answer would be, it's okay to make fun of your friends for any or all of those things. By extension, it's okay to mock stereotypical Jews, feminists, and guys who can't get laid, because those groups are all well-represented here and it's merely indirect personal mockery.
Being a Republican is something people can change, so it's totally open season there.
Also, isn't "get some sleep" part of that whole recovery process thing?
Yeah, my sense was Republicans were game. Especially chunky female ones.
But Ann Coulter says that Republican women are all hotties like her. It's the feminazis that are chunky, isn't it?
being really short
I believe one can also make fun of one's friends for being unnaturally tall. I know I do with the ones I have who are.
"being a Republican,"
The red-blooded Americans for whom you presume to speak find "being a Democrat" far funnier.
You can still make fun of criminals with funny names, and their victims.
But do so at your own peril, for the nocaps people come after you.
red-blooded Americans, for whom I believe I speak in this matter
Red blooded Americans beg to differ, Shi'ite.
I believe we are still free to make fun of people for grammatical inelegancies and insufficiently cultured constructions. Also: cock jokes without nuance.
The rule is simple, Ogged. You're allowed to make funny of any group of which you are, or have been, a member.
For example, Bitch is allowed to make fun of humorless feminists; Alameida is allowed to make fun of alcoholics; and Apo is allowed to make fun of people who have, or have had, mullets.
So, in accordance with this rule, Ogged, you are allowed to make fun of Iranians, hairy people, and men with small dicks.
Also acceptable: making fun of somebody for being named "Weiner".
Also, Canadians are allowed to make fun of Americans, and Americans are allowed to make fun of Canadians.
What about Belgians? Fuckin Belgians.
Oh here's one: you can get lots of fun-making mileage out of a lurker who drops in to comment round 'bout #500 about how it's all the fags' fault.
Also acceptable: making fun of somebody for being named "Weiner".
It's pronounced "whiner", though.
ARE WE then to infer, from "now that I'm back", that ogged is well and truly back? Or is he still only toying with us, using us as a means to his private end of diversion while he recovers from the "cancer" that didn't even necessitate the removal of his stomach?
People can make fun of Scots, if they like, as long as they realize they run the risk of being headbutted then repeatedly staff afterwards.
Sorry, w-lfs-n. In accordance with 10, you're not allowed to make fun of cancer victims.
You are allowed to make fun of sexual perverts.
Sheesh, can't even deliver a threat without making a typing mistake.
That ought to have read:
"People can make fun of Scots, if they like, as long as they realize they run the risk of being headbutted then repeatedly stabbed afterwards."
Ah ok. I was wondering if "staff" was an archaic past participle with which I was unfamiliar.
'Course, the actual word that would have been used is 'chibbed' but I assumed that I ought to translate that for the benefit of the hard-of-dialect.
You're allowed to make funny of any group of which you are, or have been, a member.
Hey why has this not yet inspired a cock joke?
Be the cock joke you wish to see in the world, Clownaes.
I remember when subtlety and implicitness ruled the day here, and every comment thread was a thing of beauty.
Stop it, Ben, you're going to make me cry.
I chuckled until the tears came.
Also, the English are allowed to take the piss out of anybody and everybody. This has nothing to do with Unfogged, it's just the way it is.
So what do the English do when they're just standing around with other English, and exotic Englishisms like "bloke" and "sodding" and "taking the piss" have no real effect?
re: 30
They get drunk, obviously.
Isn't asking for permission to attempt to be funny the definition of humorless? 10 gets it right, and Ann Coulter has discovered the secret of pre-mortem mummification.
So what do the English do when they're just standing around with other English, and exotic Englishisms like "bloke" and "sodding" and "taking the piss" have no real effect?
You appear to be describing the time honoured ritual known as "waiting for the sodding bus". In which case what we do is abuse the city council.
In accordance with 10, I'm allowed to make fun of people who forget to bring a pair of underwear when they bike to work, and thus are sentenced to freeballing it all day.
Can I make fun of bicyclists who wear spandex, a group to which I no longer belong?
28: "chuckled until the tears" s/b "choked when apostropher"
34 -- but seriously, riding to work? Even when I wore the spandex I didn't put it on just to ride to work. Do you have like a really long commute or something?
People who are 47 can be ridiculed for being 47. People who are under 35 can be ridiculed for seeming like they are 47.
Ordinarily, age-ridicule cuts off when a person turns 48, but in certain cases, exceptions are made: this year's list includes Michael Jackson (he's still 47, but the exception in his case was always a no-brainer) and Prince, and, effective yesterday, Madonna.
Can I make fun of bicyclists who wear spandex
This is obligatory.
Fuck off, Shi'a. You can make fun of most things you mentioned; you can also get pounded for doing so.
10 gets it right, and Ann Coulter has discovered the secret of pre-mortem mummification.
What! Cala is a hatchet faced skinny redhead? My illusions are shatttered! All this time I've been picturing her as a 47 year old balding bloke.
34: Five miles. It's a short ride, but I don't like being chafed.
Huh: I've come to find jeans very comfortable for city riding, and less ridiculous-looking.
(I would probably don the spandex again if I were going to do a long ride but I don't think I've ridden more than 20 miles in the past 4 years.)
I wear jeans on my cycle-commute -- about 3 miles each way -- but, tbh, cycling shorts would be more comfortable.
Why don't we just save all our venom for the Welsch? It will heretofor be interdict to criticize any person for any attribute, whether physical, psychological, or otherwise, unless that person is a dirty, foul Welschman or Welschwoman.
We have flocks of spandex-clad bike people around here. It looks like the Tour de France on my road on Sunday afternoons.
I think the bike people aren't doing steroids along with their spandex addiction, but it wouldn't especially surprise me to find out they were.
Let us hurl all our venom toward those who misspell "Welsh".
Why don't we just save all our venom for the Welsch?
Because Dsquared can be extremely scary.
Or were you talking about Jim Welsch? I could see hating him. Fuckin smug basketball players.
Don't we all? (Bats eyes at Dsquared.)
But I'm down with the Welsh abusing -- I grew up with it (Irish mother, semi-Welsh father, reasonably high levels of comic hostility poorly concealing actual bitterness.) and can dredge up some useful quotes from Evelyn Waugh on the subject.
Especially when he misspells his first name in such a weird way.
I don't think I've ridden more than 20 miles in the past 4 years
(at a time, I mean)
We know you've been getting on the bike, peddling three feet and then hopping off again. No need to try to hide it.
Remember when you could come to Unfogged and read about things like this,
“Guys all say they’re looking for the same woman. They’re looking for this whimsical, beautiful girl who’s really a geek inside,” said Ms. Serota. “They’re all looking for Natalie Portman’s character in Garden State, or at least that’s what they write. They’re looking for the quirky girl who’s going to save them from themselves. They’re looking for these girls that are, like, manic-depressive without the depressive.” (In Ms. Serota’s estimation, this syndrome is endemic to “basically anyone in an urban area who doesn’t dress like they work at Blockbuster Video.”)rather than ogged bitching about feeling oppressed by people who say he's oppressing them? Worst of all, I found this via a Red website. I'm now sure we're not going to take back the House. How long will it be till we lose our cock-joke lead?
Open season on Repulican penis size?
Haw haw haw, that George Allen certainly has got a small dick, hasn't he?
Let's just face it: you give up your damn blog, you lose the right to complain about what the people you hand it over to do with it.
Suck it up, cancer boy.
OT, but did anybody else see this week's Lucky Louie? I laughed so hard I had tunnel vision.
After two hours at work now, I can confidently say that I find going commando entirely unappealing.
Anyone can feel free to make fun of my height. I'm pretty new to comments here, so I never experienced the Golden Age of Kindness and Nuance; I'm married, so I no longer care if women shun me as a repellent freak of nature; and a lifetime of merciless ridicule has made me the smugly superior misanthrope I am today. Plus, it means everyone else is fair game. Especially people with Tourette's -- they're so obviously asking for it.
I'm married, so I no longer care if women shun me as a repellent freak of nature
Yeah I find that after a couple years of married life, you get used to it.
It was more a golden age of ridicule and nuance.
I can't believe 'penis size' didn't make it into Ogged's original list. And in fact, only one instance of 'penis' in the whole comments to date. Talk about humorless!
In the past couple of weeks, I'm pretty sure I've been told that none of those are ok.
Can we all make fun of Ogged now for caring what people on a blog tell him is okay? Mock who you want! (And then suffer for it. Mwahahahah!!!)
only one instance of 'penis' in the whole comments
To be fair, there are a couple of 'cock's.
Cock is such a serious, earnest word, though. Not funny like penis.
To be fair to ogged, the tone of the place has changed a bit. And, you know, he had cancer.
And we can all agree that if there's one thing you can make fun of someone for, it's having an odd number of kidneys.
Ogged's cancer does not forgive his cockteasing. Otherwise of course SCMT is right. Whining about whining might be silly, but whining about whining about whining destroys unfogged.
A blog about what people should or should not post or comment about is truly a terrible thing to read.
I dispute the premise of this thread.
LB, if I knew anyone with three kidneys I'd definitely try to stay on their good side.
Cock is such a serious, earnest word
Cock is o-earnest.
Ogged's kidneys aren't a whole number. I'm not sure whether 1-2/3 counts as an odd or even number.
ogged, why did you set up a website where people abuse you?
82: I'd say 1 2/3 is a fairly odd number of kidneys to have.
82: if we're treating Real numbers as ontollogically* real, then all numbers are even, thus 1 2/3 is even. But if you stipulate that the odd/even dichotomy inherently implies that we deal with and only with integers, then 1 2/3 is certainly odd because it is not an even integer.
*fuck orthography
Michael, that makes no sense. You could claim that all real numbers are real, and still observe that "odd" and "even" apply only to integers, by virtue of definition!
This is something you would know if you had read any Quine.
88; however, does make a good point.
I believe the way odd and even are traditionally defined is that they do not comprise the universe of real numbers, so your notion of odd as "not-even" is incorrect.
83,85,86 - I do think this has something to do with it. When a lot of the comment space was directed at making fun of Ogged (especially re: the TiVo), he gave back what he got and ridicule abounded. Since the people who blogged in Ogged's absence didn't draw the same kind of abuse, that faded away a bit. If Ogged wants to reinstate the Golden Age of Ridicule and Abuse, I think his only course of action is to rededicate himself to a life of celibacy.
Is it okay to make fun of blogs that are really self-congratulatory about being a community of open-minded moderate people?
pace B's #1, guys who can't get laid should not be ridiculed, but rather introduced to girls who can't get laid.
Or, Becks, you could take one for the team and take a vow of celibacy yourself.
95 - Yeah, but what's the point? Then the girl who is not getting laid will just invite the guy who who is not getting laid to dinner and he'll turn her down to comment on Unfogged all evening.
Why does Becks hate Unfogged?
Nowadays a woman's gotta hit a man.
If only there were some way to solve the girl's problem and the guy's, simultaneously!
Will one of the philosophers out there rule on whether, if two people who can't get laid give each other a mercy fuck, it remains a mercy fuck, or it turns into something even more difficult to handle.
Surely there must be a way to fuck unfogged itself, and go out to dinner with it. That would solve many a problem.
Commenting at Unfogged should follow dinner and drinks. Who turns down dinner?
103: It's too short. And fat. And I heard it's hung like a dust mite.
Fuck unfogged, and then congratulate yourself for your open-mindedness.
Fuck unfogged, and then congratulate yourself for your open-mindedness.
This isn't nearly as satisfying as you'd imagine.
But it does explain why the blog gets all sticky at intervals.
Surely there must be a way to fuck unfogged itself
I think this gets us partway there.
Is it OK to make fun of cripples? I always think it's so funny when they try to walk and fall down.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's still OK to make fun of people whose kidneys don't really work. Or is that liver? Or spleen? I'm awfully bad when it comes to offal.
It's a little nerve-racking adding a comment to this falutin' blog; who knows what a (very tall) one-legged guy will get picked on for. I make more jokes about having a wooden leg than anyone - it really freaks people out if I'm wearing pants and they can't actually tell that I have a peg. But it's odd, because if I'm joking about the fake leg while wearing lycra shorts they're no less freaked.
A young man went missing this week in my city. Upon seeing the poster a barely-older co-worker said "he's an adult, right? and he's lost? not disabled in any way? just got himself lost in the middle of the city?" then launched a string of mockery for this poor loser. I don't know which of the two I pity more.