Re: Objectivists Have Polo Shirts: Who Knew?

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He should just wear a sandwich board that says TOOL in giant red letters.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:07 AM
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1- why? That would just be a less comfortable but no less obvious way to express the same message.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:12 AM
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Because I said so.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:19 AM
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On these occasions I like to remember that for Wittgenstein, the expression a=a is completely senseless.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:21 AM
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Google tells me there is quite a bit of objectivist clothing out there. Which isn't that surprising, actually. For some reason the thongs really creep me out. And the baby clothes. Poor innocent little babies.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:22 AM
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Second-handers. What have those babies ever produced?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:23 AM
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Objectivist bling?


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:25 AM
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I can wear a crucifix, Ogged has his cheese-grater of Satan, and the objectivists get to wear dollar signs.

We need other form-of-life attire. Besides vegan shoes, I mean.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 8:56 AM
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how about something like this?


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:08 AM
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Second-handers. What have those babies ever produced?

Poop. Lots and lots of poop. Perhaps you have forgotten?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:19 AM
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9 -- that is truly neato. Are you by any chance a Pynchon-l subscriber?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:25 AM
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11. I am now.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:29 AM
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I tried to read Objectivism in a courthouse awaintin jury duty, one of those wasted days waiting to be vordured. I never made thru page one. "Existence exists" just really pissed me off, mainly because I felt it was supposed to.

I wanted a joke about Van Vogt and a ? a but I have to go look up the nut VV was channeling. Memory test, something with a S.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:30 AM
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8: B gets her Satanic-changeling unholy underwear, which she should wear on the outside.

It's impossible to Google "a=a", but I take it that that's an Objectivist principle. Who knew? "Take that, ?ukasiewicz!"


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:34 AM
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"Existence exists"

Didn't we all agree that to be is to be the value of a bound variable precisely to avoid nonsense like this?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:34 AM
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12 -- Cool. Let me know how it goes, I was pretty devoted member there for a number of years but dropped out in 2001. When it is clicking well it has some things in common with this forum. If you notice a guy posting there named Kai Lorentzen, could you send me his e-mail? I'm not sure if he's around, he threatened to drop Pynchon for Baudelaire.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:35 AM
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Emerson -- if you look up a=a on Wikipædia I think you will get a result. If not go to their objectivism entry, it is described on that page.


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:37 AM
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General Semantics ...Alfred Korzybski is who I was thinking of, and GS as "applied analytic philosophy" is not as silly as Dianetics.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:41 AM
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drop Pynchon for Baudelaire

Er, uh, I mean Flaubert. One of those -air guys, y'know?


Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:43 AM
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I guess either one would be an understandable development.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:46 AM
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What I've read of Korzybski seems quite reasonable.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:52 AM
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It's impossible to Google "a=a", but I take it that that's an Objectivist principle. Who knew? "Take that, ?ukasiewicz!"

I think it's more like "Take that, Marx!"


Posted by: Victor Freeh | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:54 AM
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E-Prime

"E-Prime indicates a variant of the English language that prohibits the use of the copula in all its forms"

Jeez, somebody has got me started again. Already voted, whatever it is worth in Texas.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:57 AM
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E-Prime has been proposed here previously, but nobody took me seriously.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 9:59 AM
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#18: Bob, c'mon, "is not as silly as Dianetics" is setting the bar pretty low. Not necessarily "digging a special trench" low, or "throwing it into the Marianas Trench" low, but it's surely at no risk of falling damage where it is.


Posted by: Bruce Baugh | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 11:46 AM
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Bruce Baugh, the (Aeon) Trinity developer? Hells yes!


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 11:48 AM
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Objectivists are just undeveloped Fichteans.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 12:21 PM
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25:As some branch of analytics, GS is reasonable. I am someone who believes in many paths to enlightenment, and believe that studying the lyrics to AC/DC songs for forty years could bring satori.

But GS seems a particularly strenuous hygeine.

Bob McManus (3:21)
Bob McManus (3:22)
Bob McManus (3:23)

Anyway, I still hate Hayakawa from Berkeley. I hold grudges.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:23 PM
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Okay, SF State, 1968/69. Give us old farts some slack. Close enough. Pull the mike plugs on The Third World Liberation Front demonstration. Fascist.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:27 PM
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Here's an Election Day distraction: what should I bring to my annual work potluck next week? Going back the last three years, I have brought a pie, a tomato salad, and mini cornbread muffins. Preferably a suggestion that (1) is easy and (2) will win the potluck.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:40 PM
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28: Hayakawa died years ago, but don't let that slow you down.

(Also, he was from Marin, not Berkeley. You can be a Republican in Berkeley, you're just not allowed to admit it in public.)


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:45 PM
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Potlucks have become a form of competition???


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:49 PM
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Implicitly, haven't they always been? Every year at the multi-family Mormon Christmas party, I remember being proud that my mother's cassarole and jello salads were so much better than those other stupid mothers'.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 2:58 PM
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30: Asian-stylee pork ribs in the crockpot.

Bunch o' pork ribs (get riblets if you can)
Oyster sauce
Brown sugar
Red pepper flakes
Rice vinegar
Garlic
Salt
Sesame seeds

Mix everything except for the ribs in a big bowl, varying proportions until you reach the consistency of barbecue sauce. Toss ribs in sauce. Dump in crock pot. Cook on low until meat is ready to fall off bone. Serve.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 3:05 PM
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I'll bring you a saffron-almond brittle cookie to taste tonight, Becks, so you can decide whether you want to try the receipe.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 3:26 PM
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Yuuum! Thanks, JM!


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 11- 7-06 3:32 PM
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