Re: Alles was irgendwie nützt

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The champagne thing is just a way of saying he'll be performing drunk.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 3:54 PM
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Nah, they all do that.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 3:57 PM
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Fine! Fine! I'll listen!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 4:08 PM
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sand, huh.

hearing the record can have it's own mystery. In "Catfish Blues" done by Son Thomas and recorded by Axel Künstner in 1980, there's this great rumbling rhythm sound that's hard to pin down. Great but mysterious sound.

Turns out it's someone who threw a handful of sand on a wooden front porch and rubbed it with the end a broom handle.

(both the track, a very bawdy version of the song, and the collection it's on-- LIVING COUNTRY BLUES-- are highly recommended)


Posted by: TomF | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 4:11 PM
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Künstner: Umlaut blues is unexplored territory. Soon we'll have Death Umlaut Blues bands burning down churches and worshipping Satan.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 4:51 PM
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Is the jaw harp what some would [problematically, racistly, anti-semitically] call a jew harp?

When I was a little kid, I was in Brownies, and we had a guy show us weird folksy instruments that included the mouth/jaw/jew harp, and he insisted to us eight-year-olds that it was from 'juice-harp', because when you played it, you drooled a little.

I bought it when I was eight, but I think the explanation was for the moms.

ben, can you guys do podcasts?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 5:54 PM
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I just clicked the comments to say that I'd never heard it called anything other than a jews harp or a mouth harp, but Cala beat me there.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 6:35 PM
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It is, Cala. We don't do podcasts, unfortunately. I am going to be recording the show b/c I need to submit something for this quarter's application, assuming I actually try to get a show, so I thought I could just upload an mp3 of that. But it would be fairly degraded in quality, I think, plus you'd have to listen to me talking—ugh. So I might, as a one-time-only! thing, and partly because the times I'm broadcasting will be divided up anyway, just upload the pure music goodness beforehand. We'll see.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 7:51 PM
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Ooh, please. I like me some podcasts.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 7:59 PM
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One of the annoying things about laptop music is that when you see it performed, the performers are just sitting there clicking at a computer

Are you fucking kidding me? I've never even heard of this.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:04 PM
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The name has long puzzled me greatly. I have never known a person of Jewish extraction to specialize in the lamellaphone, though I'm sure there are such cases. Then again, there have occasionally been Jewish guys in the NFL, but nobody calls football the "Jew's game."


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:08 PM
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Laptop music. Don't pull a muscle getting your groove on.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:10 PM
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More laptop music. Much funnier than the other one.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:14 PM
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You laugh, but you can really hear the difference when someone is just turning knobs listlessly.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:37 PM
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A conversation I had years back:

Me: The whole "Jew's harp" thing is so racist. It's like "Jews are cheap, so when they play a harp, it is just a little metal thing with one prong."

Friend: It's not racist at all--you just made that up. They call it a Jew's harp because it sounds Klezmer-y.

Only now do I realize that my friend was making up her etymology, too.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:40 PM
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Oh lordy that link in 13 is good. What is that dude doing with his mouth? And that guy is world championship material?


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:41 PM
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I don't get it. What makes the music laptop music? Just that it is made live by turning knobs hooked up to a laptop? Is it a requirement to suck?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:55 PM
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OT: You know what I hate? I hate when you have an argument, and you know you are right, but no one really has any evidence, so you let the issue drop. And then, like, five years later, you finally have the evidence so you go back to, for instance, you wife, and you say "Remember that argument we had five years ago? See, see, I was right!" and then the other person completely denies ever having said the totally wrong thing you know they said and now can prove they were totally wrong about.

I hate that.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 8:58 PM
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Sometimes, rob, it's very obvious where you went to college.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 9:03 PM
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What? Dude, have Ogged and I not both mentioned that claiming non obvious things as obvious warrants a punch to the face?


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 9:09 PM
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Luckily, I am now thousands of miles from both of you.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 9:25 PM
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Perhaps it's only obvious to people who know many alumni of said college.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 9:58 PM
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18: Dear god, it's the story of my marriage.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 10:08 PM
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18: Dear god, it's the story of my marriage.

Maybe you should try being right more often.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:15 PM
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18. people who bring up arguments from 5 years ago deserve whatever pain they get.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:18 PM
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I hate you, Ben.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:24 PM
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ATTN CALA AND THE STREAMING-AUDIO DEPRIVED: this file will be deleted on Saturday. It's big—95 megs—and contains some oggs amidst the mp3s. And if you listen to them out of order, I'll kill you.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:33 PM
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yayyyyyy wiggles.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:36 PM
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Hmm. Error when trying to unzip the music.tar file? Hrmph. Only two mp3s came through.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-11-07 11:56 PM
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Fuck! Everything works fine for me...

Oh, it must be because there are some characters that aren't allowed on windows (you're using windows, right?) in one of the filenames. I'll get right on that; won't be but a minute.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:03 AM
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Of course, it will take a long time to upload the file again.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:18 AM
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At long fucking last, it is uploaded. Hopefully I was correct in thinking that (a) it was a character issue and (b) the ampersand was the only offending character.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:49 AM
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Hm, the ligature in that one filename is probably going to be a problem ... fuck.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:49 AM
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Well, I'm going to bed anyway; if it doesn't work still, I'll try to get something working tomorrow.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:50 AM
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In the afternoon.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:50 AM
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I'll take advantage of this music thread to confess that I played a gig with a cover band tonight at a fratty bar, and we played Kelly Clarkson's "Since U Been Gone" [sic], and I kind of enjoyed it. Secretly.

Am I going to hell?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:59 AM
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That's what cover bands do, play popular songs. Watch that laptop music in 13. Makes "Since U Been Gone" seem like musical genius.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 1:11 AM
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youtube's down for maintenance. But thanks for the vote of confidence.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 1:12 AM
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Upon further reflection, enjoying it makes you gay. So yes, you're going to hell.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 1:24 AM
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Ah, that'll be warm. We gays like warm things. Thanks, gswift!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 1:25 AM
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I'm just the messenger.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 1:43 AM
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Yeah, cover bands always play songs that at least one member of the band doesn't like. Or secretly likes, but claims not to.

I've never done it -- not really a good enough rock guitar player -- but mates play in cover bands and seem to quite enjoy it: it can pay well too. You could, if you were good, more or less make a living at it.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:24 AM
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"Since U Been Gone"

Is that the one with teh chorus that goes "I ain't missin' you... I ain't missin' you... I ain't missin' you at all" or approximately so? If so, yes, you are going down.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 6:54 AM
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Oh, no that one is apparently by David Wilcox. Since I have not heard the Clarkson sound, you can get by with a few millenia in purgatory for making me recollect the Wilcox beat.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 6:56 AM
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Hm. Apparently a ton of artists recorded that execrable thing. I don't know whose it is originally -- Tina Turner did it, Tyler Hilton, Alison Krauss, One Tree Hill, John Waite,... and that's just on the first page of Google hits. I confess ignorance.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 7:00 AM
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John Waite (formerly of the Babys and Bad English) did it first, released in 1984.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 7:25 AM
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Thanks, 'Po!


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 7:26 AM
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(The question remains, why would so many artists record such an objectively lousy song?)


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 7:27 AM
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Heh heh heh.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 7:35 AM
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I'd say I missed out by not reading Unfogged last Saturday night, but I was in a similar condition at the time, trying to push a car out of a snow bank in the middle of a frozen lake (our driver was sober, but inexerienced in winter driving). (And we were ice fishing, so the being on a frozen lake part was on purpose.)


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 8:04 AM
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I dreamed about Ben w-lfs-n's radio show last night. We were about to serve the gnocchi and saltimbocca for Catherine's birthday dinner when I remembered that Ben's show was going to air—which was the real reason for the party. We assembled at the table and ate dinner in silence as Benji played teh noise.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 8:08 AM
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No luck again, ben. I am on a Mac.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 8:14 AM
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Better laptop music.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 8:36 AM
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52: I grabbed them Cala; and can clean the names and put them somewhere for you temporarily if you'd like. You can mail me using this pseud at gmail, if so.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 9:01 AM
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52: did you get any sort of error message? Are you extracting using `tar zxf' or with some kind of gui tool?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 9:54 AM
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trying to push a car out of a snow bank in the middle of a frozen lake

I wore a jacket to take PK to school this morning.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:00 AM
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The beauty was, after 10 minutes of trying, we just said "aw, fuck it" and went into the ice shack to sleep it off. We had to get 6 guys to help us in the morning. Turns out that spinning the tires on not-frozen-enough lake ice will dig you down through the ice pretty quick.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:06 AM
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So you went and slept in a shack on a not-frozen-enough lake. Slept. In freezing weather. On a surface that wasn't quite frozen enough.

Yeah, that sounds like a blast.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:14 AM
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55: the problem is the special character in track 06's name.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:17 AM
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59: (probably)


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:17 AM
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ah, ok. I realized too late that that was probably it.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:18 AM
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In something like an hour a new version will be on the server, with no special characters anywhere.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:19 AM
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53: I'm glad you brought this up, since I too wanted to defend some laptop music. I do know a lot of people who bitch about the lack of performance aspect to it though, which I found very weird when they were talking about a local celebrated DJ duo.


Posted by: JAC | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 10:46 AM
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Ben, I'm extracting the files using the default Mac unzipper tool ("Stuffit Expander"), and it's unzipping the first three tracks, and then quitting with an error message ("Unspecified Stuffit Engine Internal Error")


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 11:47 AM
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64: Cala; if you run the `Terminal' app and go to the directory you put the file in (if it is the Desktop, then cd ~/Desktop will do it) then use `tar xfz files.tgz' you'll get a subdirectory called files, but it will be missing the one problematic track, I think.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 11:58 AM
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Well, I was meaning to post over here that I had enjoyed my lunch today with Teo; somehow it wound up on the Failure thread, thus casting undue aspersions on my opinion of Teo (and of myself). FTR, I do not think either of us is a failure.

Anybody in the NYC region next Friday (the 19th) can come lift a cup with me to celebrate my departure from the city, and to pray for the war with Iran to somehow not happen (assuming it has not then already happened). I/we will be at Chumley's, on the corner of Barrow and Bedford, beginning around 6 or 6:30. If you will be there, let me know.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 12:27 PM
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You sound really chipper, Ben. You guys that hard up for DJs?


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 2:24 PM
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I'm listening! There's actually a sweet little folk melody on right now, rather than the arrhythmic noise I was led to expect. Oh, there it comes.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 2:39 PM
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The guitar and violin track (I think) that has come on after the impromptu sound effects workshop is pretty awesome.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 2:49 PM
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I like the earlier stuff better. Where's that infernal playlist page? I can never find it from the main site.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 2:50 PM
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Aeeeoeoooeooeoeooouuuuuuooo.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 2:59 PM
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Cheetah conservation!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 3:03 PM
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soub: thanks! yayyyyy music.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 3:05 PM
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And thanks to ben. yayyyyyyy ben.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 3:27 PM
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Thanks ben!

All the files end with .mp3.wav or .ogg.wav. Really these are .mp3 and .ogg files, not .wav files, right?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 3:33 PM
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I just renamed them all, chopping off the .wav. I think my iTunes screwed up the genre labels, though, because I'm listening to something that sounds like random sound effects but is labelled as rock.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 3:36 PM
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death is only a dream...

Some of these tunes need more melody.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:04 PM
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Not that one, though.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:05 PM
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I like the earlier stuff better. Where's that infernal playlist page?

The playlist won't be up until later; we didn't have a computer where we were.

All the files are mp3 or oggs, not wavs---that's a side effect of a too-hasty script adaptation.

JM, the arrhythm was earlier in the show. This one wasn't that representative, I guess, so you'll have to keep listening.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:24 PM
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So you went and slept in a shack on a not-frozen-enough lake. Slept. In freezing weather. On a surface that wasn't quite frozen enough.

It was more passed out than slept, but yes. In an 8 x 12 shack with 6 2 x 2 holes to and through the ice. I think we're going to make it an annual trip.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:38 PM
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I liked the clapping track a lot.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:38 PM
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Goddamn you. Now I have Since U Been Gone in my head. AGAIN. After having it in my head for like a week after New Year's.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 01-12-07 4:42 PM
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Who was the saw player on the show?
Was it her: www.SawLady.com ?


Posted by: Michelle | Link to this comment | 01-14-07 3:17 PM
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