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Does anyone else think the reason that Lane and Denby never appear in the magazine at the same time is similar to the reasons that Superman and Kent never appear in the same place? And further that the Denby disguise is better than the Kent one?


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:26 PM
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No. (You were first here, too.)

And we've had several Anthony Lane threads.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:30 PM
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Gawd help me, but I just joined ogged's side this week: Lane is terrible. If Denby's reviews don't appear with Lane's, it's because Denby's article would find Lane's so appalling that there would be a fight.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:32 PM
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My opinion of Denby has stayed low since then, but I like Lane more now.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:36 PM
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joined ogged's side

No, I like Lane.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:36 PM
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Ah. I've joined Labs, then.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:50 PM
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You're gonna feel that in the morning.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 8:53 PM
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Oh, Denby and Lane are old news. Sasha Frere-Jones bashing, that's the new hotness!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 9:31 PM
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I've been bashing "SF/J" for years.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 9:46 PM
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It hasn't quite been "years" yet, Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 9:52 PM
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I actually like most of the music he writes about, but I realize that puts me in an extraordinarily tiny minority in the blogosphere, so, yeah, let's hear it!

I will acknowledge that Alex Ross is a better critic, but I could give a crap about modern classical, mostly.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 10:03 PM
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Modern classical doesn't seem like it could possibly be the correct term, now that I think about it.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 10:11 PM
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When Denby wakes up in the morning, he is Denby. Lane is Denby's critique of humanity.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 04- 6-07 11:58 PM
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Whoever did their web design did a first-rate job. Pretty.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 1:28 AM
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12: I think it's "modern orchestral music" or "modern concert music."


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 7:07 AM
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Also: I highly recommend George Packer's article, "Betrayed", about Iraqi interpreters. The most heartbreaking thing I've read in a long, long time.


Posted by: alif sikkiin | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 7:16 AM
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10: what makes you think that was the first instance?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 11:52 AM
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Feel free to show evidence of a prior instance, young Ben.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 11:57 AM
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I didn't say I'd been basing SF/J online for years.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:07 PM
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Alas, you can't prove that you've been bashing him offline at all.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:16 PM
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But Lane is so delightfully campy!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:18 PM
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I'm delightfully campy, JM, yet so many people find me loathsome.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:21 PM
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It does take a refined taste to appreciate some bouquets.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:35 PM
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Apropos of nothing in particular, having one's computer break down at this point in the semester is surprisingly unproblematic.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 12:56 PM
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16 -- God, we suck.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 1:56 PM
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I know it's done in our name, and that we've enjoyed enough privileges and had a long enough lineage that this is our only homeland, but in what sense to you feel that "we" have done this, and therefore suck?

I passed over into "they" long ago, and don't feel I'm being irresponsible or uncaring in doing so. We'll all bear the consequences sure enough but I'm clean.


Posted by: I don't pay | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 2:10 PM
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IDP, I don't see "us" stepping up to do anything about "their" suckiness with respect to this matter. If you can show some sense in which "we" suck less, wrt these people, I'd be happy to see it.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 4:05 PM
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This isn't the main point of the article about the translators, but: Titan Corporation f***ing sucks, for their treatment of their employees alone.


Posted by: Katherine | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 4:23 PM
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I like Lane and SFJ. So there.

#26. Lots of people suck much more than I do, but, unfortunately, I'll go to my grave still thinking I suck a little for having been able to do so little about all this. Bourgeois guilt, yes, I know. Now I'll never make McManus' cadre.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 9:07 PM
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"I might be late to this"

Must. Fulfill. Stereotype.

16: "Also: I highly recommend George Packer's article, 'Betrayed', about Iraqi interpreters."

Yes.


Posted by: Gary Farber | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 9:54 PM
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14: The redesign was done by Winterhouse Studio, which has also done work for Errol Morris, Poetry Magazine, and a host of other artistic, educational, and literary organizations. The principals also blog at Design Observer, to my mind the single best design blog out there.


Posted by: mrprimeminister | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 10:26 PM
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Thanks, Mr. PM. Now get all those design people to stop using tiny sans-serif fonts already.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 11:14 PM
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Why does so much design-the-craft seem to articulate a common Design-the-aesthetic?


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 04- 7-07 11:44 PM
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Used to be I could tell Lane from Denby within a paragraph, but in the past year or so, not so much. Denby seems more Lane-ly, the past couple of years.


Posted by: goofyfoot | Link to this comment | 04- 8-07 4:43 AM
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