This totally sounds like a "lets prank the gullible reporter" story, doesn't it?
Seems like a typical kids-these-days story.
As for the heartache of growing up in the "sterile bubble of Fifth Avenue penthouses" etc, I hope this is the reporter's/commentator's spin and not the actual reason the kids are getting high on the bus. If the latter, while Apo gives them all wedgies and chinese burns, another adult should be around to do things like make them eat broccoli and deny them all permission to go to the bathroom.
Also: 5-methoxy-N N-diisopropyltryptamine! Luxury! In my day we just had cider and glue, and were glad of it.
1 -- yeah -- most every Google hit for "Sindergarten" seems to refer back to the Radar article. If it were a real thing I'd expect the organizer to have some online presence.
So Stephen Glass has a pseudonym now?
4.--I'm not so sure of that. If it's really an underground party, I'd hope their mailing list was private.
I have never heard of Foxy. I feel so old!
I'd expect the organizer to have some online presence
You'd expect the organizer of drug parties for high schoolers to have a website?
6 -- the hip kids are calling it "Roxy" (as the article notes, "a slang term for Foxy") nowadays.
I would these days. I wouldn't expect it to be findable by searching, but I bet if this is real, there's an online presence, couched elliptically enough to be incomprehensible to those not in the know.
I love that they've taken their escapism and formalized, scheduled and monetized it. They are their parents' children.
All the quotes sound really fake to me -- was it perhaps an April Fool thing?
During my hallucinogen days, the idea of doing this would have amused my friends and me for a few moments until we realized that it was way too much trouble and would involve relocating from the relative safety of my mother's basement. I guess there is something to be said for implementing hallocinogen-inspired ideas.
the thing was posted the Thursday before April 1st...
6, 7 -- No I guess I formulated that wrong. But I would think people would be talking about it in places that Google indexes, even if the organizer is good at keeping it secret -- these are high-school kids, and he claims to have had 300 customers to date -- I would expect message-board hits.
(1) I suspect it's fake.
(2) 9 is crazy.
If (1) is wrong, Apo's right that someone needs a beating.
10, assuming, of course, that it's true, which isn't clear to me.
Man, I gotta get my hands on some Roxy.
Alexander Shulgin's info on Foxy, from the always useful Tryptamines I Have Known And Loved.
17 -- You do recognize that if you manage to get your hands on some Roxy, all that will result in is an asterisk by your name when your eventual Obie is recorded.
"Remembering how hungry I got during my last 6 mg. experience and without any dietary restriction I ate a vegetarian burrito four hours earlier. It took an hour for me to turn on. I have never experienced such an increase of the peristalsis process in moving the burrito through my colon and with each defecation I would become a little more turned on. As I became more turned on the greater I felt the sense of hypertension. A mind / body load became uncomfortable. It was never psychedelic in the way of acid or psilocybe. My muscles, gluteus maximus, the lateral rotators that connect to the trochanter and the large muscles that connect to the hamstrings, all contracted and spasmed. Psychologically it was as though my conservative instinct, my sense of Being, became extremely agitated. I felt completely unnerved, with the only relief offered was by having sex. As the effects of this material were rather extreme, I never felt as though I was having a psychedelic experience. Maybe because it was all about dealing with body load and discomfort."
15.2: You don't think that an organizer would have an LJ with something like "Party next Wednesday, call Kyle if you're going to show"?
The article says that they do mention it online, but only by using a secret code word.
I'd expect it to be mostly organized through word-of-mouth (incl. cell phones) and text messages. Maybe a few emails between friends saying something like 21. Not a public website. But maybe I'm just out of touch with those kids these days.
The name of the author, Edward Wain, seems to be a fake. It's a pseudonym someone associated with Roger Corman flicks used, and only appears, as far as I can tell, as an author name on a short item also in the March Radar. Maybe LB has a scoop here.
The story editors' emails are in the sidebar of the article. Some enterprising young reporter could...
26 -- it's a description of the effects of F/Roxy, taken from the site 'Po linked a few comments up.
Also: F/Roxy would be the perfect drug for a frosh mixer.
You know what really rings false for me? The bus. It makes a good picture, so it works for the story, but schoolbuses are cramped and uncomfortable (nap rugs? Where, exactly?), and renting a bus is an unnecessary paper trail. And conspicuous -- there's noplace in the 5 boroughs where a busfull of partying kids, even if they were quiet, wouldn't get noticed and harassed, either by the cops or just by people. And of course it's not the setting for nursery school behavior.
If you really wanted to have a little-kid party, a room with rugs and posters and blocks would be safer, closer to the image of what you're trying to imitate, and easier to set up.
I just noticed the one and only comment on the article (scroll down the article's front page).
Since Kesey, schoolbuses have been iconic in the countercultures. Punks were probably anti-schoolbus, but it's dialectical.
B-but LB thought the reporter had been taken in by wily high school students! That's not what happened, at all!
This is true (actually, I wondered if it was a hoax by the reporter, but didn't get as far as April Fools). I was just working off the story sounding unlikely, nothing more than that.
rfts wins and will be allowed to add Sidd Finch to her fantasy baseball team.
I feel silly not having caught the pony acrostic -- I looked at that and thought it sounded fake: not either authentically little kid speak, or the way most people would fake little kid speak, but didn't pry at it any further.
Sally and Newt are going to have a very dull adolescence, when Ma can see through every fabrication...
Can I still go bully some rave kids anyhow?
Quiet, you! Go eat your ecstasy.
I'm just glad I saw the quotation mark at the start of 20.
Dude, you knew it wasn't me: "I ate a vegetarian burrito".
Dude, you knew it wasn't me: "I ate a vegetarian burrito".
You can eat my burrito anytime you like, apo.
Not going to say how I know this (since, you know, it's obvious), but Foxy is a terrible drug. It's nothing like ecstasy. Its primary effect is fourteen hours of feeling alternately incredibly horny, uncomfortable, and itchy.
Even the horny is not a good thing: think about being incredibly horny and there being nothing you can do about it.
Ugh.
Possibly somebody heard about the Theme thread and took it the wrong way?
"I have never heard of Foxy. I feel so old!"
My absolute first reaction was "Oh man, there's really a fun new club drug I've never even heard of?"
Glad to know that I'm still hip to the most current ways to scramble your brain.
I think you can still feel bad about being out of touch -- if the link in 18 is legit, Foxy's a real drug even though the story is bullshit.
The link in 18 does not mention the nickname Foxy or Roxy -- those could be made-up.
Except based on 48, probably not. I guess ST could be spoofing but that wouldn't really make sense.
From what I hear, it's really ragingly amazingly intense if you take a whole heck of a lot of it, but that's from the kind of people who really enjoy 2ct-7 which, you know, kills people. So you probably don't want to trust them.
In general, the familiar standby designer drugs are going to be your best bet.
Glad to help!
want to feel like they're five again.
Its primary effect is fourteen hours of feeling alternately incredibly horny, uncomfortable, and itchy.
Now if they wanted to feel like they were thirteen again...
You could call it "Summer Camp".
#57. "Remember. The Rock n' Roll Doctor doesn't advocate drugs, he merely prescribes them."
So the story really was a hoax? Ha. Any story that promised titillation, lots of privileged kids, and obscure ways of getting off, just seemed too, too good.
I had skimmed the original article, and assumed this was done by people in their thirties/forties. Somehow I find that easier to imagine than with teenagers. It's when the self-indulgent nostalgia really kicks in.
57.---Man, if I were going to try out a new drug, I would not start my evening with two pot brownies and a giant rum n' coke.
64: You might also not be the kind of person who posts on Erowid or tries Foxy. If you're ever looking to get that "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas was 100% true" feeling try reading through the various trip reports at Erowid, especially for the more obscure substances.
If you were the sort of person that were going to try a new drug, you probably would. (I also liked the corrective medication throughout the story: Hmm, this new drug makes me tense -- let me pop an anti-anxiety drug. It makes my back hurt -- mmm, muscle relaxants. Where's the scientific method?)
66: It's more impressionistic, like cooking, or jazz.
Back in the day, I took my drugs pretty seriously. There's no faster way to go completely haywire than by mixing unfamiliar substances---or even familiar ones mixed unfamiliarly.
70: Well, sure, that's one side of the story. I certainly didn't mean to imply that mixing drugs is a bad thing generally.
Incidentally if the article had said 2C-I I would have been fooled.
64: Yeah, the effects of chocolate still are not fully understood.
I propose the next Unfogged meetup be held on a schoolbus.
I used to know a guy who had the skills, apparatus, and most of the ingredients needed to synthesize MDMA. The key ingredient he was missing was sassafras oil, which is legally used in root beer. What I would suggest is that if you plan to start making artisanal root beer, you do thoroug sweep of your house to make sure that it's clean, because sassafras oil is tracked to the extent possible, though it is not a scheduled drug.