Are the driver issues with Ubuntu a real pain in the ass? I had been looking into playing around with it as a side project.

Third link: ick.

Depends on your computer. I had no trouble loading it on a spare five-year-old desktop PC, and I think it was doable on my laptop, but it was going to take more work and tinkering than I wanted to do.

Find out what's on your computer in advance and it shouldn't be a big deal.

I just looked at apple's education discounts last night. I could save anywhere from 5% on an $1100 laptop to a whopping 7% on a $2600 laptop! Or I could go to overstock and get one for $500. Hmm...

I'd be playing around with shivbunny's old PC, which is older. (Note: ask shivbunny first.)

I could go to overstock and get one for $500

Link?

Understand, "one" in the last sentence means a laptop, not an Apple laptop. Link.

I see that you recognize that your 3 was imprecise and misleading.

OT: FL's brother Eric is a hotshot strategic planner.

But it's nice to be reminded that if you don't want to pay the high price of an Apple computer, there is another option. Freedom! It ain't free.

... if you don't want to pay the high price of an Apple computer, there is another option. Freedom! It ain't free.

Sure it is, if your time has no value.

I can get a sony vaio for nothing more than my time?

Also, I declare a moratorium on anyone ever saying something of the general import of "linux is only free if your time is worthless, durrrr".

Why? If you add a trailing "or you derive entertainment value out of trying to get your computer to work", it's uncontestably true.

If you hate the truth it's not my problem, ben.

13 is exactly right.

What's with the moratoriuming lately, young Ben? Maybe you'd like to start a blog with posts so abstruse that no one wants to comment on them?

He already has one of those, Ogged.

Thanks for making that explicit, apo.

So are you saying I shouldn't write my post about what sort of demand on intentions the demand of agglomerativity is?

13: It sort of is one of those things everybody knows; the "sun is shiny" of the operating system debate.

12: Sure, fine, but "durrr" in general must stay.

I seem to have said very nearly the opposite, Ben.

Especially if you can figure out a way to include a link to this, Ben.

That's about as abstruse as penile superincision.

I am the Ronald McDonald of the nouveau-abstruse.

Who's game for Ubuntu Christian Edition?

24: And I, the four-armed Grimace, Kali of the McDonaldsverse.

Ubuntu Christian Edition is only free if eternity has no value.

Ubuntu Christian Edition makes me think about how Jesus, in pretty much all the gospels, is regularly horrified by how obsessed his followers are with wanting to belong to a gang, but don't seem to understand a single word he says.

28: Atta girl; quite right. I couldn't tell if the site was a put-on for a few minutes.

29 - But there is Christian Ubuntu. It's a distro with some open source Bible software and parental controls baked in so your children can't use Linux to look at porn or Mitt Romney's website.

I kind of hoped the site was a put-on for a few minutes.

And cripes, I just read that corpse kidnapping story. Fucked. Up. I didn't think there was anything left in news from Iraq that could shock me.

"Patooty?"

Oh, Ogged.

Are you asking me out?

Sorry, off to swim...

I'd be thrilled if someone could convince Ubuntu's management that there is no such language as "African", so that they'd stop saying that "'Ubuntu' is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others'." I tried, unsuccessfully, to convince them of that fact a few years ago.

You missed the saddened head-shaking implicit in 32. (I only date men who can keep up with me in the profanity department, so you're out of luck.)

Also, 32 wins the thread.

21: done and done.