Re: What, And Leave Show Business?

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If I move to New York, they'll pay me to pin a feather boa to my ass, is what you're saying?


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 7:07 PM
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And what a wonderful bourgeoise you are!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 7:14 PM
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1: No, the point is that they won't pay you. They might drop a dollar in the hat, but not a salary.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 7:21 PM
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But they can't take away your dignity.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 7:30 PM
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You can sell it, though.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 7:39 PM
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You're a serious person, meaning to be a professional and an artist,

I'm not a real actor at all, but I've both known a few really amazing theater actors and dabbled in the acting half of dance a fair bit. There's not necessarily a dichotomy between serious and pasting a feather boa to your ass and pretending to be a duck. Being able to lose yourself in silliness or craziness is what makes you serious. It's certainly not the end goal, but I think a good actor would find a lot of good stuff in Peter and the Wolf.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:23 PM
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I had an acting teacher tell my class once that if we could do anything else, could imagine ourselves being anything else, to do that. (I'm now directing.)


Posted by: amec | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:24 PM
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And what Ile said. Feather boas are fun! Comedy is underrated as a serious art form!


Posted by: amec | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:25 PM
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Feather boas are fun!

Lots of things are fun, just not necessarily as a way to barely scratch out a living.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:28 PM
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tell me more about this dollar in the hat business.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:29 PM
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I'll give you a dollar if you do your business in a hat.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:30 PM
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Text'll do it, you know. He's crazy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:40 PM
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What Ile said. Incidentally, I read the post just as my daughters started listening to the All Things Considered version of Peter and the Wolf. That's not really the coincidence it might seem; since they were introduced to it last week, they've listened to this version and Bernstein's, seen Disney's animated adaptation and read two storybook versions, all multiple times.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:41 PM
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11, 12 they don't call it a poo pie hat because it's made of poo, dammit.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:43 PM
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I'll wear a hat to work tomorrow. You can deposit the dollar in my paypal account, or send a check.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:44 PM
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The Wendy Carlos/Weird Al Yankovic rendition of Peter and the Wolf will probably be pretty annoying if you aren't a Carlos completist. Looking at you, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:44 PM
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Yeah, but only in America are feather boas not a viable way of life. In other industrialized countries, they're government supported.

For most actors and dancers (and directors, frankly), the opportunity to be...um, in the moment...is a high and a kind of focused intensity that is extraordinarily hard to forget if you've ever experienced it. And also, many performers have been told over and over again that the only way to make a living in the arts to buckle down and focus on that and that alone--which sort of cuts down on the opportunities to make a living doing anything other than waitressing and temping.


Posted by: amec | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:45 PM
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Indeed: I am not a Carlos completist and would probably find that pretty annoying.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:46 PM
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Happy birthday, Poo Pie.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:48 PM
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You aren't? Well, that's a lonely incorrect guess I made.

The TRON soundtrack, though, is objectively awesome.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 8:50 PM
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Things could be worse. I know a New Yorker in the finance industry who says that the only person he knows he can discuss "The Coast of Utopia" with is his personal trainer.

"Bum-bum-ba-ba-ba-bum" beats "Up on a five-count... 1... 2... 3... 4... 5..."


Posted by: Brad DeLong | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:00 PM
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You know what the weather's like at the Unfogged Commune?

Unfoggy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:06 PM
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Damnit, wrong thread.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:07 PM
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I hear you LB. There are many days I have trouble taking my craft seriously.
I find it helpful to have grown up in the suburbs, where life is so surreal that it competes with fiction.
Many actors come from some background where the boa on one's ass would be the least of it.


Posted by: Penny | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:13 PM
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23: Dammit, wrong spelling.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:15 PM
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My sister in law had a job for a couple years after acting school touring around North America in a little pickup truck with costumes and knock-down sets in the back, putting on children's theater stuff. She had a blast.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:16 PM
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Pajamna banamnamamnit, dammit.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:25 PM
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"But how do I know that the expression '"fog", where "fog" means fog' means '"fog", where "fog" means fog'"?


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 9:38 PM
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You pretend to be crazier things than a duck in acting class. The ability to cheerfully pin a feather to your ass and then pass the hat for donations is one of the things that distinguishes born actors from the rest of us.


Posted by: marcus | Link to this comment | 06-11-07 10:55 PM
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They really did seem to be enjoying themselves.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 5:33 AM
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28 would be more readable if you'd escape internal quotation marks like the rest of us, John: "But how do I know that the expression \"\"fog\", where \"fog\" means fog\" means \"\"fog\", where \"fog\" means fog\""?


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 5:50 AM
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Come on, "transgressive"! Baby needs a new pair of Crispis!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 6:30 AM
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What the hell is wrong -- or undignified -- about acting like a duck? What's more special -- acting like a duck or doing Hamlet? What's the bigger stretch? A pox on this anti-duckism.


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 8:48 AM
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Google Argentine + duck + penis and then tell me that there's nothing wrong with being a duck.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 9:00 AM
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Is that the pic of a duck with a corkscrew-like dick hanging down a couple of feet? If it is, I'm not clicking on it. It's a real horrorshow, it haunts me still. Ugh, double ugh. Makes one want to leap out one's male gender into ... what?


Posted by: Adam Ash | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 9:30 AM
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I don't know, I loved acting in high school, fooled around a bit in college, but the rest of the drama nerds didn't like having a jock dilletante in the mix, so I gave it up. Others I know with a similar story became litigators. I find myself acting everyday, just different roles: father, businessman, Republican, jerk, you name it.


Posted by: Tassled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 9:46 AM
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I just found out that my significant other got picked up for a DWI last night.


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:12 AM
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I used to act in high school as well for a fairly high-profile amateur theatre company. Gave it up for playing in bands, which I also gave up for ... well, nothing.

http://www.trysttheatre.co.uk/photos/Pleasure.jpg

I found this recently, an old cast photo from 1987. I am in there. A couple of people who were in the cast that year are now quite successful TV actors.

Can't say I really enjoyed it, though. Making music is/was much more fun.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:19 AM
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37.---Shit, that sucks.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:23 AM
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Yeah...and they charge you $58 to set up an account on your phone so that you can recieve collect calls. So I haven't actually talked to him/her, but I forked over $58.


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:25 AM
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re: 40

Shit.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:33 AM
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I don't think presidential pseudonym understands how the presidential pseudonyms are supposed to work.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:34 AM
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I think pp does understand and is playing with the convention.


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 10:47 AM
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Well yes, SB, either that or wanting to hide his/her sex/sexual orientation (hence the "him/her" in 40), or both. But conventions are not to be played with. We as a nation are doing enough violence to the rule of law as it is.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:18 AM
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31, what John said was actually perfectly unambiguous; a single-quotation mark on the outside, and double on the inside, and there was no nesting.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:32 AM
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My issue was with readability, not ambiguity.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:37 AM
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Evidently.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:38 AM
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I do too understand!


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:49 AM
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I've seen no evidence of that.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:53 AM
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Aren't you supposed to be feeling sorry for me?


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 11:58 AM
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Yikes, that sucks, pp.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:00 PM
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$58 to receive collect calls? Is this some new method of price gouging that the phone company came up with?


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:00 PM
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I second 52. I thought maybe pp lived in some non-US location where one could not easily, by default, receive collect calls; but then why the US$ pricing, and "DUI" is a US term for the offense right? Maybe pp has only a cellular phone, no land line; I know nothing of the mechanics of receiving collect calls on a cell phone.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:03 PM
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You have to prepay, if the inmate wants to call a cell phone. Which is all I have. The minimum amount is $50 with an $8 transaction fee. It's a total racket. I'll have $48 in credit if any of you all go to jail in my state, though. You can call on me.


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:04 PM
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Woo hoo! Next round of jail calls is on pp!

*makes finger guns*

p-khew! p-khew!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:06 PM
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Woo-hoo! I figured it out! Seems very weird to me but what do I know.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:07 PM
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Jinx.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:07 PM
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mmf.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:07 PM
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*explosion noise*

I'm making broccoli motions with my hands.


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:08 PM
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Are we feeling sorry for you about the $58 gouging or the significant other's DUI? The lesser seems to be getting more attention than the greater, it seems.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:12 PM
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mmf.

mmf!'s less demonstrative sister.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:15 PM
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Having not talked to the sig other yet, I don't know how distressed s/he is. So I might feel more compassion in the future, but at the moment I'm like, "Well, you're NOT SUPPOSED TO DRIVE DRUNK, sweetie."

The $58 stings, however.


Posted by: presidential pseudonym | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:15 PM
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I'm going to just pretend that someone unjinxed me, as I fear my "mmf" was too subtle.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:16 PM
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I can scarcely imagine how terrible my teenage years would have been had I lived in a place where and time when laws against drunken driving were actually enforced.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:20 PM
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RFTS, Clownae can't jinx you -- he said it after you. (As the timestamps prove.) Jinxing requires simultanaity.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:22 PM
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63 -- Sorry dear, I would have done so but was called away to try and figure out why my sockets are misbehaving.


Posted by: Clownaesthesiologist | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:23 PM
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Excellent point. You are a fine parliamentarian, sir.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:23 PM
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Bammf!


Posted by: Nightcrawler | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:50 PM
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64: No kidding, yo.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 12:56 PM
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31/45: I was citing Frayn's Wittgenstein parody, possibly the best parody ever. I did not put my citation in my own quotes, I just cut and pasted it.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 1:15 PM
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"... I respect people who want to be actors that badly, but I don't think I could hack it."

Is that actually a reasonable path to becoming an actor or is the world's way of telling you that you have no shot and should try something else?


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-12-07 1:51 PM
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