Re: 101 Summer Menus From The Times

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I saved that as well. You should check out redtailfoxshrub's blog.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:40 PM
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Skirt steak has been on my list to learn how to make for a while.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:42 PM
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I email links like this* to myself, and then save them in a gmail folder. God help me if those links ever go bad. Of course if the links go bad your system wouldn't work any better.

*Links I want to save and find again, not cooking links. Except I think I may actually have one cooking link in there.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:42 PM
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My wife always says the way to find the really good stuff in the Times is to look at the "most-emailed" links. This is a good'un.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:44 PM
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There was a service that I belonged to that would capture whole articles for you. The problem with that is that start-up companies like that (and I wasn't paying any fee, so I didn't really have much in the way of rights, practically speaking) tend to go under or change their policies. I've also forgotten the name and by information, so I've probably lost all that stuff.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:50 PM
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There's this thing called del.icio.us -- some people use it. You might check it out.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:51 PM
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The new del.icio.us Firefox extension eliminates any possible hurdle towards using that service, too.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:52 PM
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There are other nice services -- Zotero, twitter. The 'share' option on Google's RSS reader is nice for a lot of reasons.

But del.icio.us is semi-uniformly great.

Also, it's a Yahoo service. And those guys are great with private information, so you can sleep well too.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:53 PM
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Or, you know, you could just save it as a blog post like you did, LB, and then the rest of us would be able to go, "oh, cool, easy recipes."

Thanks.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:58 PM
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Bittman's migas threw me until I found out that there are two different versions. The other one is eggs scrambled with stale corn tortillas torn into strips, sliced jalapenos, onions, and tomatoes. Cover with cheese (and/or scramble some in) and pile on your favorite salsa, the hotter the better.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:58 PM
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Magpie,

Mmmmm I might make that tonight. Anything with eggs salsa, cheese, and onions is good by me. Yum.

I wonder what wine I should pair with it.

Jesus?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:00 PM
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Chilaquiles!


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:01 PM
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I don't like del.icio.us.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:02 PM
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11: Sangria.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:03 PM
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14: No, no, B - this one!


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:04 PM
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ditto del.icio.us; the real question is how to find good seafood and fresh veggies without huge outlay of time or money, which is ultimately local.
Immigrant-centered groceries are best, but fruit+veg from those have a shelf life of 2-3 days, which means frequent trips. This place for fish, that place for salami, the other for reasonably priced olive oil; it's enough to make me want to buy bulk frozen everything. But squid, once you learn how to take apart a squid, grilled fresh squid stuffed with tomato and garlic and optionally feta is great. Also, pignoli are apparently popular among Koreans, and cost 1/4 as much packaged for that market.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:04 PM
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If you don't have stale tortillas, crisp them a little in a frying pan before tearing them up, then use the same pan for your scrambling. Soggy tortillas == sad migas.

I think the general wisdom on pairings with spicy things is a sweeter white, like a Riesling or Gevurztraminer.

(Pwned on preview by B. Mmm, sangria.)


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:04 PM
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10: Migas are excellent. One of the definite benefits of living down here was discovering them.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:06 PM
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I do love Grenache. But Sangria and Gevurzt might tie for first.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:09 PM
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6: I know del.icio.us; I used to read the blog of one of its VC funders. At the time I didn't find it intuitive, but I think that they're working on it. I may have to check it out again.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:09 PM
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what is a miga?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:10 PM
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What you're having for dinner tonight.

Soubz, you in Texas?


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:11 PM
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21: Migas . I've had mostly the tex-mex version, which can be reall, really good.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:12 PM
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22: Yes, Houston.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:13 PM
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15: Ho. Lee. Crap. Must. Order. Several. Cases.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:14 PM
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I'm going for the lame takeout option right now. The Vietnamese stand at the foodcourt near me selsl banh mi for $2.75 with tax included. I'm hungry and am off to pick one up.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:15 PM
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Absolutely Magpie.

A client dropped off fresh tomatos and peppers today so I am ready.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:15 PM
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25: Hot sauce with that? A friend swears by it, not just for the name.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:16 PM
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I admit to being more into wine than I am into exxxxtra hot hot sauces. Maybe for the boyfriend, however.....


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:19 PM
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I have often made something similar: eggs, onion, cheese, pepper, salsa and then put it into a tortilla. But this sounds really good.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:19 PM
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Via that wine site, I am wishing I had a reason to send this to apo.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:20 PM
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I wonder what wine I should pair with it.

Sangria sounds pretty good, actually. Depends on how spicy you make it -- well chilled aromatic whites (Riesling, Gewürztraminer) tend to go well with spicier food, but one should take advantage of the opportunity to try a good rosé.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:20 PM
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30: It has to be corn tortillas. Preferably stale. Cilantro is good here, too. Some people put avacado in. It's great with pico de gallo and black/refried beans or spiced potatoes.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:22 PM
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Ooh, I want clients like Will's.

The Bitch wine sounds good, but should a wine that's "smooth" and "easy" really be called Bitch? It just sounds way too.. cuddly over all, what with the berry flavors and warm and dry but not too much of either. I'm thinking that would fit a very young Cab better -- something with assertive flavors and tannins that are just too strong to be socially acceptable.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:22 PM
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I am unashamedly pro-current rosé trendiness.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:23 PM
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should a wine that's "smooth" and "easy" really be called Bitch?

Hells yes.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:24 PM
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Pwned by Magpie because it takes me so goddamn long to make those links. Check out rosés, seriously. You'll likely be surprised if you haven't had really good ones before. The two I linked to were just the first two that came to mind; there are many.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:25 PM
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Fie on the Times. Like 2/3 of the recipes are for pasta. I can figure out what to do with pasta, thank you. More veggie-based dishes would have been nice.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:27 PM
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34 gets it right. The Stone brewery's Arrogant Bastard beer tastes like it sounds like it should. Throw some hops in that bitch.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:28 PM
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I second Jesus' Domaine Tempier recommendation. Good stuff. I've also had several really nice Italian rosés made from aglianico grapes this summer.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:29 PM
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38: Looking for anything specific?


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:29 PM
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should a wine that's "smooth" and "easy" really be called Bitch?

Are you saying that B isn't easy?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:31 PM
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I like to eat frozen mini-brussels sprouts. I steam them and put sesame oil and paprika and garlic on them.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:31 PM
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More veggie-based dishes would have been nice

Roasted turnips!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:31 PM
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Definitely seek out Elio Perrone Bigaro. Fizzy, pink, low alcohol, and fucking delicious.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:32 PM
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44: roast 'neeps (parsnips) are better! You can roast them with carrot and potato too, if you like.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:35 PM
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I scooped recipe 56 back in February.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:35 PM
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low alcohol

Oooh, you almost had me.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:36 PM
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Does roasting make turnips less gross? I've been getting about a half-dozen turnips a week in my CSA and I have no idea what to do with them.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:37 PM
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41 - Hmmm...nothing specific. Just lots of veggies and easy.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:37 PM
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Roasting makes turnips EXCELLENT. Cut them into cubes and brush them with olive oil and salt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:39 PM
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2.---My honey is really good at skirt steak. His "met candy" basically involved cutting the meat into inch-wide strips, marinating it in olive oil, salt and pepper, a shitload of minced onions, and a dash of lime juice, and then skewering and grilling them. Mmmmm.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:39 PM
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"meat candy"


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:40 PM
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Also, you must try strawberries in balsamic vinegar. It's my favorite food of the summer. Slice up a container of strawberries and marinate them at least a couple of hours (or overnight) in a mixture of one quarter cup balsamic vinegar, one quarter cup brown sugar, and a little salt. Right before serving, grind a little bit of fresh black pepper on the top. (stay with me here.) Eat many ways: on top of ice cream, with sweetened marscapone cheese, with some biscotti, on waffles, or just as a side dish. Seriously good.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:42 PM
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51: All right! My next batch of turnips and beets will meet this very fate.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:44 PM
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I was thinking of Bitches in general, not just our Bitch.

It's not surprising that the recipes are heavy on pastas and pan-fried meats and light on the veggies, since he has a self-imposed 10 minute limitation and lots of people don't think of vegetable-heavy dishes as "meals" anyway. Roast veggies are awesome but take more than 10 minutes (and also involve heating up the oven, which isn't so appealing in the summer, especially in a tiny apartment). If you go above the 10-minute limit, then that opens up frittatas and risottos, which you can put pretty much any veggie in your fridge into.

I'm a little surprised he didn't have caprese salad in there: slice up tomatoes and fresh mozzarella, sprinkle with fresh sliced basil, drizzle with olive oil, add some whole kalamata olives. Mmm.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:46 PM
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Yeah, I don't have a grill and would prefer not to heat up the oven. "Stick X veggies + Y meat into a skillet and cook until done" recipes are my kind of thing.


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:48 PM
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57: Stovetop grill.


Posted by: Matt F | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:50 PM
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Recipe 94 sounds really, really foul.


Posted by: elemund | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:51 PM
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I contend that no recipe in which one of the ingredients is a cup and a half of ketchup is worth making, let alone eating.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:54 PM
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48: Yeah, but it's under $20/bottle, so you can drink lots.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:54 PM
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I was thinking of Bitches in general, not just our Bitch.

But I'm *the* bitch.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:55 PM
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59: Recipe 94 sounds really, really foul.

Indeed.

I prefer, and usually cook, a mix of veggies and greens with bacon. That is, when I want something quick. Brown the bacon, add thinly sliced onion, add firmer veggies after the onion softens, finish with greens (chard, spinach, etc). Pepper & salt to taste. Pair with a nice hoppy beer.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:58 PM
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59: Hoooly shit ewww, you're right. 12 is comedy genius. Also: could we reasonably pull off 13?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:59 PM
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My sandwich wound up costing $3.00. They maade a new sign and raised the price. I wonder what they're costing in Philadelphia now.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:02 PM
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56/57: ditto the no roast in summer thing. Fritattas etc. ar good & quick, or even (perhaps fancy) omlettes with a side of (steamed or grilled) asparagus or something.

One of my favourite quick ones with lots of veggies and not too much heat for summer would be a stir fry (proper, in a wok) with rice or even (cold) rice noodles, but with a strong sauce. Takes


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:06 PM
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BG, you know banh mi are pretty easily home-replicable? We had them last night, as a matter of fact. Not quite as good as the real thing, but adequate. And they keep pretty well.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:09 PM
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I ated soubzriquet!


Posted by: Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:10 PM
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67: you know banh mi are pretty easily home-replicable?... And they keep pretty well. I haven't tried to make them, no. The pork one I had today could probably be made at home. The grilled pork or beef ones I often get would be harder to replicate.

I am awful about cooking. Too much of the stuff in my refrigerator goes bad. I'm often tired, and I try to avoid my nutty roommate Paulette, and it's harder to do that in the kitchen.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:14 PM
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Onions+garlic, diced zucchini, cinnamon, pine nuts, and currants with couscous = my most recent three times a week meal.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:16 PM
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I don't know what happened to 66. Should have said, takes less that 10 min (hmmm, I bet it was the less than that killed it) if you have a sauce handy. I like a dark spicy peanut sauce for this. Easy to add protein in the form of cubed chicken/tofu/whatever for a couple minutes befor throwing veggies in.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:17 PM
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I brought home several bottles of various pink fizzy stuff from France last week. My favourite drink at the moment is pomegranate Sabai.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:25 PM
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Vinho Verde, from Portugal, very slightly fizzy when first opened. The distributer here peddles Gatao, don't remember the importer.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:35 PM
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73: Alianca is reliably an easy drink, and quite cheap.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:39 PM
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69: The ones we had were grilled pork, actually. They're really easy if you have an oven with a rack, but slightly involved to clean up after, and it helps to have a kitchen that's actually ventilated for shit. And yeah, if you need to avoid people, probably a non-starter.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:50 PM
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Bostoniangirl, soubzriquet: I had never heard of banh mi before and just looked them up on Wikipedia. Strange, but I've never seen anything like them in Vietnam during my times there. The plentiful baguettes really only seemed to be eaten during breakfast (not surprising when you consider how long fresh semi-crusty bread lasts in tropical heat and humidity). Do either of you know if banh mi are mostly an American-Vietnamese invention, or are they supposedly traced back to somewhere in the homeland?

They look tasty, either way.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:18 PM
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76: I wasn't involved in the earlier discussion of banh mi. For what it's worth. though, they're great. I can get really good ones a few blocks from here for $2.99 (large size), but I have no idea if the provenance is American-Vietnamese or actually Vietnamese. In my experience they are vastly better on really good bread, so availability of such will affect things at home as well (and is by no means guaranteed in most of the US, from what I've seen)


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:37 PM
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76: I honestly don't know whether they're Vietnamese-American or indigenously Vietnamese, but I think I remember Anthony Bourdain rhapsodizing about them, specifically in the one book of his that's basically just "HEY GUYS, VIETNAM IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥♥♥" for 200 pages.

But yes, they are absolutely awesome, although every place I've tried in the Bay Area that has them has so far completely sucked.


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:44 PM
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78: Where have you tried them? I can personally vouch for Cam Huong in Oakland's Chinatown.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:47 PM
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They're Vietnamese from French Indochina days: baguette meets Vietnamese grilled food for filling.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:50 PM
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78: All over the map, really, since it was a "find x cuisine" operation rather than a "get food nearby". But yay, thanks for the reccomendation, I will definitely check it out! Are they specifically a sandwich-type shop, or is the range broader?


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:53 PM
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76: Lots of Vietnamese food stalls in Phnom Penh serve banh mi (although I don't remember it being called that).


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 4:54 PM
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75: The ones we had were grilled pork, actually. They're really easy if you have an oven with a rack, but slightly involved to clean up after, and it helps to have a kitchen that's actually ventilated for shit.

That sounds kind of complicated, Lunar, and for one person it might be more expensive than just buying the sandwich.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 5:04 PM
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French Vietnamese food is wonderful. Damn, now I'm remembering the little place in the Marais where my ex and I used to eat all the time.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 5:13 PM
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Sounds more complicated than it is, I swear! Basically, cut into strips, marinade and stick in the fridge overnight, then line a cookie sheet with tinfoil, then stick in the oven and roast. The main problem comes from the drippings from the meat occasionally overrunning the tinfoil so they get on the cookie sheet, and you have to scrub it off, instead of just rinsing and tossing in the dishwasher.

The trappings are dead easy and done seperately, but both they and the meat keep for a looong time, and you get a suprising amount of both out of a fairly inexpensive quantity of raw ingredients. And then you just assemble a sandwich whenever you have fresh bread.

http://www.travelerslunchbox.com/journal/2006/9/25/banh-mi-for-beginners.html


Posted by: Lunar Rockette | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 5:24 PM
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80, 82: Ok, thanks. I haven't been to Phnom Penh, but I went to Vietnam over a dozen times between 1994 and 2004, eating and spending all day with locals. That's why I was surprised that these things looked completely unfamiliar, though they may be from a region I never visited (Hue, perhaps?).

I know that baguettes were available on most street corners in Saigon and Hanoi's older districts, but as I said, they disappeared fast after 10 am. Everything after that was rice or noodles based, with occasional rice paper usage.


Posted by: Po-Mo Polymath | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 5:42 PM
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81: They have other stuff, but the only thing I've ever had there is the banh mi.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:25 PM
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After buying an insane amount of basil for $1 at the farmer's market on Saturday I'm thinking I'll just make a shit-ton of pesto, freeze it, and forget about it. Oh well.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:43 PM
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Soupe au pistou!!!!11!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:51 PM
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Pistou isn't exactly pesto, though. (Nevertheless that's a great idea.)

In other food-related news, I just got a still-warm loaf of bread from Tartine. Fuckin' delicious.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:59 PM
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Not only are many of these recipes for pasta, more than one is a pretty simple variant on your basic aglio e olio.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:02 PM
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I now think I was confusing pistou with something else.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:05 PM
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Basil aïoli.
Pizza Margherita.
Khai pad gaprao.
Basil ice cream.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:07 PM
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rfts makes fantastic sweet and sour Brussels sprouts. I made a pretty good fried tofu in peanut sauce last night, but tonight am feeling lazy and reheating the last of a batch of black bean chili.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:10 PM
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baguettes were available on most street corners in Saigon and Hanoi's older districts, but as I said, they disappeared fast after 10 am.

It's not as popular in Cambodia, although I did always had to buy it early in the morning. The Vietnamese immigrants made sandwiches with it, but the Khmers mostly ate it only with soup.

Cambodian food is nothing special, in case anyone's wondering.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:15 PM
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93: I would especially like the Basil ice cream. Good use for my garden's output.

In other news, I'm really enjoying this year's version of this


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:17 PM
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Oh, and ratatouille. Throw basil in by the heaping handful.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:17 PM
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96: Ah! How did I forget Vino Pinko? One of my favorite rosés, and one of the greatest labels in winedom -- will, apo, B, take note.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:20 PM
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Listen poepoe. Aïoli is a thing. It's a kind of mayonnaise. Right? Ok. It's a mayonnaise with garlic in. This is reflected in the recipe in Joy of Cooking: its title is "Garlic Mayonnaise (Aïoli)". The first link in 93, which refers to a "garlic aïoli", should be shot (I'd also like to know why this person decided to use the whole egg instead of just the yolk). Why should you call your lemon-garlic-basil mayonnaise "basil aïoli"? Maybe because you think that avoiding mentioning one of the ingredients in that fashion is choiceworthy. Maybe because you're a fool. Maybe because you're pretentious. Maybe because you think the people reading about your food are fools, or pretentious. I don't know. I don't care. All I know is: it has to stop.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:21 PM
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99: Assuming you're still more or less in the area, the natural foods store next to the bbq shack has it in stock (and cold).


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:25 PM
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Crap, I meant 98!


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:27 PM
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There was a food poisoning outbreak in Melbourne a few years ago due to bánh mì. At least one person died, many were ill.
I reasoned that if people would risk death to eat them they must be mighty tasty, so rushed out to try them. Yummy!


Posted by: Nakku | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:27 PM
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99: Good point. Maybe they like their mayo extra stiff, or something. Me, the albumen goes right out.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:28 PM
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Vino pinko?

I love Vino Verde. Is it basically a vino verde, bt rose?


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:29 PM
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Someone mentioned French Vietnamese food. The best place in Richmond was such a place until it mysteriously closed. The owners/family went back home for a visit and never came back.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:31 PM
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99: If you must know, dear little bitch, my original link was for a proper basil aïoli, but it called for store-bought mayo as a concession to raw-phobes. So I hastily substituted the link you so disdain. The idea of basil aïoli, and not the specific recipe, is the point, to assist peopoe burdened by basil surplus. If you know aïoli, you know what to do.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:32 PM
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I attempted to make migas tonight. My gf and daughter wolfed them down, but I wasnt happy with the result. It seemed too soggy.

Of course, I prefer to just get a general sense of the recipe and then just improvise. So maybe I need to retreat back to the recipe.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:35 PM
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104: Vino Pinko is likely Pinot Noir grapes. Vinho Verde is typically Loureiro, Trajadura, or Pedernã grapes (and lower alcohol than the Pinko).


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:36 PM
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i use 'scrapbook' which is a firefox plug in to capture pages.

It saves a copy of the webpage or the selction of a webpage to your harddrive. i use it for stuff like recipes, reciepts for online purchases, interesting quotes, and other random shit i browse across


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:38 PM
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Oh, and paired with a Shotfire Ridge Shiraz. Not because it complimented it, but because it was gooooood.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:38 PM
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also have to admit a lot of these 'meals' aren't really full meals, at least by my measure.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:38 PM
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meals have a protein, vegetables or fruit, and starch, at minimum.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:39 PM
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100: New Seasons? That's our store -- w00t!

104: Roamsedge is right -- it's an Italian-style rosé of Pinot Noir from Cameron, which I believe I recommended earlier.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:41 PM
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All the way back at 1:

You should check out redtailfoxshrub's blog.

I'm embarrassed to say that I've still failed to bookmark that.

If someone provides rfts's URL, I will do so this time.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:41 PM
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meals have a protein, vegetables or fruit, and starch, at minimum.

Whatever. A meal can be tuna and a cup of coffee.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:42 PM
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Portland meet-up here I come.

Unfogged should have a Portland wine tour by Jesus.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:45 PM
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113: I should add, that was on Tuesday when I was last there. You know it moves fast.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:45 PM
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Foxytail's food blog.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:45 PM
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116: Capital idea!


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:46 PM
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Vinho Verde is typically Loureiro, Trajadura, or Pedernã grapes

I believe it's typically Alvarinho--at least in most of the versions available here, and from what I've been able to observe. Not that those others can't be included, to the best of my knowledge--I know Trajadura can be--but Alvarinho has always seemed to me the most common.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:47 PM
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Foxytail's food blog.

I would advise against clicking the link. Red is an evil temptress. Snarkout is a lucky eater.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:49 PM
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i'm not against snacks, gswift.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:53 PM
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JL

Your blog looks very interesting. I plan on going back to read it more. Thanks for the link.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:53 PM
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Anyone who wants to come late September-early October is welcome. Our little wine cabal -- Les Garagistes (the blog is mostly an in-house thing for the time being) -- may press you into service, but the food and drink will be well worth it.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:56 PM
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i'm not against snacks

Now I remember, you're one of those freaks who eats several thousand calories a day and doesn't gain weight.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:57 PM
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120: I don't see that grape in the wines I have immediately available, but (looking up) I see it is indeed a variety used in Vinho Verde.

As always, learn something new every day.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 8:10 PM
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proper basil aïoli

One of my objections, Jesus, was to the term "basil aïoli" itself. I don't see why, aside from snob appeal, one would call it that.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:47 PM
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I concede that 'proper basil aïoli' was infelicitous. The 'proper' was meant to qualify only 'aïoli.' But I don't see the snob appeal -- one would call it 'basil aïoli' because it's aïoli with basil in it, just as, say, 'mustard vinaigrette' would signify vinaigrette with mustard in it.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:09 PM
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I guess I just think that aïoli is so simple, and so simply just a garlicky mayo, that to treat it as a type in itself is kind of strange (while a vinaigrette is a type of dressing, aïoli isn't a selfstanding type of condiment/sauce; it's particular instance of a type that has a name of its own). Maybe that's a little precious, but something like that is my opinion. And if you called something "basil (or basil-garlic) mayonnaise", doesn't that seem less ooh la la than "basil aïoli"? Leave aside its descriptive adequacy.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:16 PM
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Point taken. But for crying out loud, just put the fucking basil in the fucking aïoli and see if you like it.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:32 PM
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I don't doubt I will.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:38 PM
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I don't doubt I will.

Put, see, or like? Try to be more precise, w-lfs-n.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:41 PM
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Like. I like basil. I wasn't complaining about foreseeing vistas of pesto spread out before me. Had I an ice cream thing, I'd make the basil ice cream in a heartbeat. (Not now, of course; now, the basil's kind of old. But more is to be had.)


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:46 PM
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I think some people around here are overstating their experience with certain condiments. So, Mr. w-lfs-n, how much do you, or anyone else for that matter, actually know of la mayonnaise?


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:46 PM
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overstating their experience with certain condiments

When times were good, we'd make love all night long, my sheets a sodden mess of eggs and sperm.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:49 PM
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I won't even mention what we got up to with our whisks…


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:50 PM
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136: Takes a lot of wrist strength to whisk aïoli smoothly. Hmm....


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:56 PM
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Or maybe, properly described as endurance.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:00 PM
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I made up a "recipe" a couple of hours ago which consisted of:

place 2 boneless skinless chicken breasts in a frying pan with some olive oil and lemon juice
pick a heat setting without much basis, lowering when liquids start to bubble too much and raising when you get impatient that the chicken isn't done yet
add random amounts of both liquids while cooking
sprinkle dill and mixed salt over chicken
slice thinly and serve over leftover rotini in a (store bought) marinara (plus some extra seasoning) that you made two nights ago and just reheated

This came out fine, but I'm interested in suggestions for what I should have done that wouldn't haven't been particularly more difficult in terms of time of prep., ingredients required, and general skill of cooking.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:04 PM
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139: I like sausage, in that situation. I pick up, a couple times a week, 4-6 fresh sausages and fry them up to add to similar left-overs.

Dill, I still like on certain kinds of fish, but not on anything else.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:08 PM
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"in that situation" s/b "ATM"


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:11 PM
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If I had left 4-6 as the original "handful", even more accurate, teo.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:14 PM
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Aoili is very good. What's better is chimichurri. The Argentines put it on everything: it's a condiment, it's a marinade, it's a baste when they want it to be. It's basically a garlic/cilantro/chili vinaigrette but I've been unable to reproduce it. But my approximations have still tasted good:
maybe half a cup olive oil, maybe half that vinegar, to taste
A shitload of garlic, minced
3-5 sprigs cilantro, chopped fine
1-2 tbsp pepper flakes, cayenne or otherwise
some salt
There may be some citrus involved, IIRC, so see what works, lemon works better than lime IMO, and just a bit.
And maybe something like oregano? I don;t know, my tastebuds don't sense that fine. Do they have oregano down there? In any case, oregano works and makes it taste good.

So, you take all that crap, refrigerate for 24h or so, then use to marinate baste or garnish. This = teh tasty, I promise. Oh, also, add extra cilantro to taste 15 min before use.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:32 PM
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Nothing with a shitload of garlic, minced, could be very bad.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 11:39 PM
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I did think of a bad experience with garlic soup, w-lfs-n, but I lay the blame for it at the feet of the chef.


Posted by: Roamsedge | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 12:05 AM
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You people should see how ben celebrates cinco de mayo. Fucking disgusting.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 12:30 AM
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Nothing with a shitload of garlic, minced, could be very bad.

Egg nog.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 12:32 AM
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Oh.

Stanley, Ben told you needed to do that because it was Cinco de Mayo? It's an everyday occurrence at the w-lfs-n household.

I'm sorry, I should have warned you.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 12:33 AM
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148: Ah, crap. Well, at least I didn't follow his instructions for cinco de miracle whip.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 12:41 AM
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Your blog looks very interesting.

Looks can be deceiving. But thanks, anyway.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 7:31 AM
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JL, always with the undeserved modesty. Modern Kicks also has a great blogroll for random clicking.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 8:04 AM
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The blogroll is probably the best thing about the place nowadays, though the whole sidebar needs cleaning up. I'm just rather depressed about it all; the site was already in decline last year, but ever since we moved, I haven't been able to write properly. I used to have a solid routine, getting up at about 5 and writing before breakfast, doing it in the early evening before dinner, or putting things together on a Monday when I wasn't working. I thought getting through with the house search, move and all would get me back to that, especially now that I have my own office, but if anything the opposite has been the case. No particular reason--I'm not doing anything else with the time--just can't do it. If I ever could come up with a post title of sheer genius like "Me 'n Otto gotta get blotto in the grotto, pronto," though, I'd consider it all worthwhile.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 8:29 AM
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ever since we moved, I haven't been able to write properly

I hear ya. I've been having trouble getting much written since the baby arrived.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 8:35 AM
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I've been having trouble getting much written since the baby arrived.

I can imagine. Puts my situation in perspective, really. Anyway, I just tell myself that I've given up blogging for the more rewarding pastime of posting comments at Unfogged.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 8:40 AM
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Has anyone ever confected a peanut-butter aioli? I think it would be a very tasty thing. Interestingly, people only began agreeing with me when I stopped calling it "peanut butter mayonnaise".


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I'd think it would be really hard to get emulsified properly. You'd have to thin out the peanut butter (maybe with peanut oil?) in order to introduce it gradually enough, even in a blender.

Aioli was the one thing that completely pwned me in the cooking classes I took a couple of months ago, though, so YMMV. (I have a carton of eggs in the fridge that I won't be able to finish before they expire, so maybe it's time for a rematch.)


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:16 PM
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I've always wanted to make aïoli, but what am I supposed to do with all that mayo? I eat maybe a couple of tablespoons worth of the stuff a month. I'm sure I'd find a couple of creative uses for it, make a tiny dent, and then wash the smelly remainder of it down the drain in a few weeks.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:24 PM
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Just use a really flavorful peanut oil and leave out the actual peanuts.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:24 PM
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Mmm. I've never had mayonnaise work well, or possibly my tastes are debased enough that I don't like homemade mayonnaise. I follow a recipe, but come up with something that while emulsified, or at least smooth, is unpleasantly runny and odd tasting.

It's a shame, because I love jar mayonnaise, and the thought of something like that but better is inspiring, but it doesn't seem to work.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:24 PM
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If it's runny, you're adding the oil too quickly. Especially at the beginning, you can never add it too slowly. I've tried three times by hand recently and it broke every time, and the guy who kicked ass at it couldn't tell me his secrets.

As for what to do with it if you never eat mayo -- bring it to a potluck or barbecue and inflict your cooking experiments on your friends.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:27 PM
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I have a carton of eggs in the fridge that I won't be able to finish before they expire

I can't remember the last time milk, cream, or eggs went bad in our house. We go through that stuff like shit through a goose.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:27 PM
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Homemade french fries dipped in homemade mayonnaise are yummy.


Posted by: DaveB | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:28 PM
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I have a carton of eggs in the fridge that I won't be able to finish before they expire, so maybe it's time for a rematch.

Or you could get a Scharffen Berger bar and make a mousse or soufflé.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:31 PM
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Huh. I've thought that making mayonnaise (well, usually aioli, since we love garlic) was one of the easiest things I ever learned to to in the kitchen - at least with a food processor around. Perfect with any kind of fish, sandwiches, and so on. I find that if I use peanut oil for some of the oil it's a little bit firmer and I like the flavor - too much canola and it's pretty bland.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:31 PM
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I've never seen eggs expire. What happens when they do?

Bear in mind that mostly what I do with eggs is hard boil them, which may be possible if the eggs have expired for other purposes, for all I know.


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:31 PM
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161: That's because you've got a family of five, whereas at my household we're two decadent yuppies who work dot-com hours and end up having takeout more than we actually cook.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:33 PM
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I've tried three times by hand recently and it broke every time, and the guy who kicked ass at it couldn't tell me his secrets.

I'm told that if you add some acid, you can correct for brokenness (or that you can add the acid at the beginning).


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:34 PM
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Really flavorful peanut oil. Seriously, all of the oils I've bought from these people are amazing. The lime oil is not to be believed, so excellent for cooking up veggies for crazy, vaguely Mexican-y stuff. Whole Foods carries some of their stuff, but the website has more (or at least more than I've seen at our WF.) Kick ass.

bring it to a potluck or barbecue and inflict your cooking experiments on your friends.

What are these "friends" of which you speak?


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:35 PM
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Do geese shit especially quickly?

A dollop of yummy mayo is pretty good in chicken soup.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:35 PM
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Tell you what. Buy some eggs, take a couple and leave them in the back of the fridge for a few months. Or if you're impatient, leave them on the countertop for a few weeks.

Then crack 'em open and see.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:36 PM
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The Boyajian lemon or lime oils make a good addition to cream that's about to be whipped, for some applications.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:36 PM
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My mother can't smell, and throws out date-stamped egg cartons immediately on buying (why I do not know), so I was served many rotten eggs as a child. Very unpleasant things, those.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:39 PM
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171: Oh, that sounds good. I'll have to give that a try--we love almost anything lemon in our house.


Posted by: JL | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:39 PM
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Or you could get a Scharffen Berger bar and make a mousse or soufflé.

Actually, some of them are going to be used tonight for a turkish coffee mud pie, now that I've got a handle on how to make custard ice cream. The rest will go into aioli (and I'll try the acid trick -- thanks, Ben!), which I've been trying to make by hand. It's a grudge match, see.

I've never seen eggs expire. What happens when they do?

I've heard tell that for the first couple of weeks after the expiration date, they just dry out a bit. After that, they get nasty. So don't listen to B, because she's just seeking to have you piss off whoever you live with.

The Boyajian lemon or lime oils make a good addition to cream that's about to be whipped, for some applications.

Know what tastes completely awesome in whipped cream? Rosewater.


Posted by: Magpie | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:40 PM
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169: I've wondered before if that saying has anything to do with the force feeding process for foie gras


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:41 PM
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Actually, now that I think to check that, it seems like most sources recommend putting another egg yolk in a different bowl, then slowly adding the broken mayo-in-progress to that yolk. I'm sure I saw something about fixing it up with some lemon juice, though. Who knows.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:46 PM
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If you're trying to make mayo and it's breaking, just use a food processor. Guaranteed success. I've made mayo by hand once, and it was exhausting.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:58 PM
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Not everyone owns a food processor.

Blender works just fine, though, ime.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 1:59 PM
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MY grandad claimed that kids who grew up in the Yukon disdained fresh eggs. No flavor, see.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:04 PM
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Blender, food processor, same diff. Just don't do it by hand.


Posted by: mrh | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:04 PM
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179: flavourless eggs (i.e. most of what you can get in any supermarket) are mostly due to feed, not any lack of `aging'


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:05 PM
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180: They're incredibly useful though (processors) and make some tedious tasks worthwhile. I gave up on making things like hummous until I got one. Most kitchen gadgets are a waste of money, but not a processor.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:07 PM
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Yukon kids liked their eggs old, though; hens don't lay much when it's -70, and no supplies came in during the winter. Anyway, this is just what my grandad said, and he sometimes liked to improve his stories a bit. Like the time he wrassled that bear.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:10 PM
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But making it by hand is the POINT. Part of it's about wanting to really understand how emulsions come together, but ultimately it comes down to not wanting to let a stupid little prefertilized chicken pwn me.

You all are welcome to use a machine to make your aioli, but this one's between me and the eggs.


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