Re: John Cale is superior to Lou Reed

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The truth of your statement is contingent upon the task assigned them. Lou Reed might be the superior dungeonmaster, for example.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:49 PM
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"You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike, but you don't care because you have overdosed on heroin."


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:50 PM
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Give me a break, Apo. Lou Reed is a superior dungeonmaster.


Posted by: SomeCallMeTim | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:50 PM
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Occasionally I amuse myself by thinking about Lou Reed and Laurie Anderson's breakfast table conversation.

Pretty gnomic, I'd bet.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:52 PM
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And all the colored grues go
Doot da doot da doot
Doot da doo doot da doot da doot.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 1:59 PM
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I really love Lou Reed's cd New York.

Good Evening Mr. Walheim.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:03 PM
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You want convoluted passageways? Try Courtney Love's brain.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:06 PM
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The VU's early rehearsal recordings are interesting. Reed spends a lot of the time bitching at Cale: Too fast! Too slow, now! What the fuck is wrong with you!?


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:08 PM
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6: That album is such a boiled-down essence of New York as I was graduating from high school -- I can't listen to it all that often, because there's only so much being sixteen again anyone should go through, but it's great.

Now I'm humming 'Last Great American Whale.'


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:10 PM
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But the one after was just dreadful.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:12 PM
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w-lfs-n is a reproof. To make room on my hard drive I just deleted Church of Anthrax. Sabotage, and Hobosapiens. Kept Paris 1919, Fear, and Vintage Violence.

Yeah, Cale is better than Reed.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:29 PM
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was it ever in doubt?


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:30 PM
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I reviewed Set the Twilight Reeling for my high school newspaper and can't name any songs from it.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:31 PM
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Wait, there was "Sex With Your Parents." Dumb song.


Posted by: Michael Vanderwheel, B.A. | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:32 PM
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John Cale and Brian Eno's album of synth-pop is great. For those who liked the Moody Blues' "Your Wildest Years".


Posted by: Cryptic Ned | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:32 PM
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You people are all crazy.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:39 PM
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Joe, are you saying that John Cale would make a better dungeonmaster?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:41 PM
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This thread could get all Harry Potterish bout the meaning of "better" and Insufferable music snobs.
I know Cale is even a better songwriter, but now I can't get "Perfect Day" out of my head.

I can't believe I deleted Anthrax. I live in constant torment, even knowing that any additional storage will always be instantly filled. That's it. I am deleting Colosseum. Maybe just the live stuff.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:41 PM
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was i supposed to not like that song?


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:48 PM
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Do you think Doug Yule sees these things and is like, shit, I could do that?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:49 PM
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Cale may be superior to Reed, but neither of them could possibly beat Chinook at checkers.


Posted by: NCProsecutor | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:51 PM
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15: Years s/b Dreams, yes?


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 2:53 PM
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Oh, come on. You didn't think it was embarrassing when Cale did a duet of "Half Past France" with Philippe Jaroussky?


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:04 PM
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I'd put a buck on Undead Marion Tinsley playing Chinook to a draw, using his zombi checkers powers.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:05 PM
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"Heroin"

Only song to ever make my physically feel ill listening to it.

'Nuff said.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:09 PM
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Not as embarrassing as Lou Reed's Edgar Allan Poe musical.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:10 PM
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Is 25 praising or damning?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:11 PM
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25/27 And since it was a collaboration (at least, Cale did his own parts) I'm not sure what it argues for, anyway.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:14 PM
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John Cale is superior to Lou Reed

Um, Ben? That wasn't John Cale. It was Luciano Pavarotti.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:40 PM
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But the one after was just dreadful.

If you are referring to Magic and Loss, then I beg to disagree. An underrated masterpiece, that one.


Posted by: My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 3:43 PM
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Without my glasses, it first looked like the title was John Cage is superior to Lou Reed. Then I looked at the video and noticed a large, lumpish figure next to a skinny one and thought to myself, neither looks like John Cage, and besides, he's dead.

Then I put my glasses on.


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 5:52 PM
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31: That said, John Cage was superior to Lou Reed.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:04 PM
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25/27 And since it was a collaboration (at least, Cale did his own parts) I'm not sure what it argues for, anyway.

The viola makes the song.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 6:30 PM
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Could anyone possibly doubt this? Still, I love that American Whale song.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 7:53 PM
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Could anyone possibly doubt this?

Amazingly, yes.


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 9:57 PM
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33: exactly. Or at least, that's what elevates it.


Posted by: soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 07-19-07 10:06 PM
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Lou Reed's influence is broader by a mile, people. He was more important. Sheesh. Player haters.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 10:21 AM
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And Transformer is better than any V.U. album, before or after Cale.


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 10:21 AM
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Are 37 and 38 supposed to be relevant?


Posted by: ben w-lfs-n | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 11:28 AM
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Is John Cale supposed to be?


Posted by: Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 11:30 AM
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Heidi Klum is hotter than Giselle Bündschen.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 11:32 AM
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Heidi Klum is hotter than Joe Drymala.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 11:40 AM
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true courage, to explore difficult spaces in high priced art. too rare. too cool.
so, it didn't work. happens.


Posted by: kim | Link to this comment | 07-20-07 2:20 PM
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Nothing is better than "White Light / White Heat".


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-21-07 9:04 AM
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"Waldo Jeffers" would be a good internet handle.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-21-07 9:05 AM
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Though others have already figured that out.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 07-21-07 9:06 AM
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"Nothing is better than "White Light / White Heat".

Except the next two albums. Reed is right about tempo - Some Kind of Love & What Goes On are just right.

Did I tell you all of my instant dislike for VU & N when Andy MacKay played it to us and as "Here She Comes Again" started I spotted - "that's "I'm Free" by the Stones - and "Hitch Hike" by Marvin Gaye."?

Good, nay unique, guitar sound, though, about as white as you can get without being Todd Rundgren.


Posted by: dave heasman | Link to this comment | 07-23-07 6:33 AM
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